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Subject: It hurts to say this... But the multiplayer in Halo 4 is unbearable.

In the days prior to the release of Halo 4, I sat at my computer listening and watching people who had experience with multiplayer. After years of waiting for the new Halo game, my body was ready.

But something was wrong. The more gameplay I watched, the more distraught I became. I noticed little things that just seemed wrong. Things were happening that shouldn't have been happening. Players were getting kills that they shouldn't have gotten, and players were dying where they shouldn't have died.

Before you read the following I need you to understand: I'm not mad. I'm sad. This isn't a rant.

I'm very good at Halo. I'm not going to try to prove it to you... just please take my word for it. I know what I'm talking about. I've been playing since CE. Ten years of Halo experience has told me that there is something genuinely wrong with Halo 4. I honestly can't even think of all of the things that bug me about this game. The thing is, if it weren't for all the little -blam!- that plagues the game, it would be fantastic. One thing I can think of off the top of my head is Promethean Vision.

I'd like to sit down and have a talk with whoever the -blam!- sat down and said "Yeah, being able to see enemies through walls sounds like a terrific idea!" Seriously. Oh. My. -blam!-. God.

Who thought this was a good idea? Who actually thought critically and came to the conclusion that this was a good idea?

"Use Active camo to counter it."

*NO*

I shouldn't have to use a gimmick to avoid a gimmick. Active camo is more of a hindrance than a help.

I am SO sick of having to run away from people when I see and hear the little red scan on my radar. So many times I'll be crouch walking and sneaking up on a enemy only to have him activate PV and kill me, where before he had no idea that I was even there.


Then we have the lag. Oh God the lag. I don't have bad internet. I've played Halo 3 and Reach on the same connection for years with almost no hiccups, but Holy Hell Halo 4 is awful.

Then... *maps*...

Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

What has 343 got up their ass about making a symmetrical map? asymmetrical maps are never perfectly balanced. There's a reason Haven is so popular. It's symmetrical... and clear of distractions.

And there's so much clutter. It's so incredibly confusing.

And the Medals.

"Oh you managed to move your thumbstick? Here's a medal for that"

I'm just sooooo very disappointed with the direction Halo is going. It's getting dumbed down but at the same time becoming so complicated that it's almost as random as COD. It's not quite there yet, but it's getting there. I trusted 343, but they have failed me. If only the multiplayer had as much care put into it as the campaign.

I'd just really like to know if I'm the only one that feels this way... Everyone else seems to be enjoying it, but I just can't. I wan't to, so, so much. I just I can't.


[Edited on 11.28.2012 8:06 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2012 8:05 PM PDT

Connor Morris

*Sticks another player*
*5 medals*
Me- W T F

  • 11.28.2012 8:05 PM PDT

The only thing I find wrong with the multiplayer is the Boltshot. That gun needs to be nerfed ASAP, ruins close quarters combat.

Everything else is fine.

  • 11.28.2012 8:06 PM PDT

in·dif·fer·ence
the fact or state of being indifferent; lack of care or concern and empathy demonstrated by an absence of emotional reactions.

Got to level 27 and got bored. Haven't played since.

  • 11.28.2012 8:07 PM PDT

Halo 4 is a game of luck not skill.

  • 11.28.2012 8:08 PM PDT

Why are you here?

"Almost as much care as the campaign."
What? The campaign was short and boring, and Spartan Ops are even more so.

  • 11.28.2012 8:08 PM PDT

K.

  • 11.28.2012 8:09 PM PDT

If I ever get AIDS, I'm going to sleep with another AIDS person so my AIDS cancel each other out, or I'm going to make the AIDS I already have worse.

I got bored of it within 3 weeks, hell I'm starting to like the vanilla Reach more than vanilla H4.

  • 11.28.2012 8:09 PM PDT

>gets killed

>claims something is wrong with game

Maybe you just suck dick now?

  • 11.28.2012 8:09 PM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln

I hate to say it as well, but I agree.

I spend most of my time now doing spartan ops because the multiplayer is mostly about who can double team the person first and i find most of the weapons useless along with the AAs.

:(

  • 11.28.2012 8:09 PM PDT

Break the windowsill

I got bored with Halo multiplayer ever since it tried to be more like Call of Duty.

  • 11.28.2012 8:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK FROST
Halo 4 is a game of luck not skill.
This, I bet most of it could be fixed with just fixed weapon spawns and non-random infinity drops. Maybe more playlists with preset loadouts again, it all seems so...unpredictable.

  • 11.28.2012 8:11 PM PDT


Posted by: omg a bannana
I got bored of it within 3 weeks, hell I'm starting to like the vanilla Reach more than vanilla H4.
Well because there was a small skill gap, halo 4 removed that and blew bloom out of the water with personal ordnance who can roll the dice better compared to who is more skillful.

  • 11.28.2012 8:11 PM PDT

If I ever see anyone post in a thread "That's your opinion", I immediately lose all respect for them.

Also, if you're discussing a topic with me and you resort to name calling, pull "life checks", or just call anything you don't agree with retarded without giving legitimate reasons, don't expect me to take you serious in anyway what so ever.

So what you're saying is, instead of countering something the other players are doing you want to remain stubborn and hate them for using what they got to their advantage while refusing to use what you got to yours?

  • 11.28.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

I've just gotten a bit bored of it.

  • 11.28.2012 8:12 PM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln


Posted by: Plain Ben
Posted by: AK FROST
Halo 4 is a game of luck not skill.
This, I bet most of it could be fixed with just fixed weapon spawns and non-random infinity drops. Maybe more playlists with preset loadouts again, it all seems so...unpredictable.


Agreed. Theres no real way to prepare for anything. If you even think about changing your loadout you will be blindsided by five people with DMRs

  • 11.28.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Promethian vision isn't even a big deal. It's a radar, on top of the one that you already get.

The only AA that bothers me is Camo, on BTB. The bad kid needs to use camo to snipe, because they take 5+ seconds to line up a shot. So, no more BTB for me.

  • 11.28.2012 8:12 PM PDT
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OP I agree with everything. Luckily I didn't buy the game. I just played it last week when one of my friends was visiting from college and I really wasn't impressed by it.

It was kind of fun for a little bit, but that only lasted a few matches. The gameplay feels nothing like Halo to me, and more like any generic FPS you can get these days. So glad I didn't give in to the pressure of my friends and buy this game.

Just waiting for Far Cry 3 right now.

  • 11.28.2012 8:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Plain Ben
Posted by: AK FROST
Halo 4 is a game of luck not skill.
This, I bet most of it could be fixed with just fixed weapon spawns and non-random infinity drops. Maybe more playlists with preset loadouts again, it all seems so...unpredictable.
even if this was te case personal ordnance in itself breaks away from te traditional skillful play. It becomes a dice roll and if I get a binary rifle and you a needler, it's real easy to see what I mean. There just is no more competition left anymore. This series brought my to xbl and it turned me away from halo after this one sadly.

  • 11.28.2012 8:13 PM PDT

On Waypoint I'm rocketFox;
http://halo.xbox.com/forums/members/rocketfox/default.aspx

Old GTs; RebelRobot, Flamedude

I must admit, for the first time ever, that I've given up on Halo. At least for a while.

There's just no incentive and no challenge and no balance.

  • 11.28.2012 8:15 PM PDT
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I don't even really care, honestly. Reach proved that Halo was moving in an entirely different direction, so Halo 4 actually seemed like an improvement, despite its failure, compared to Halo 3 (and previous Halos).

  • 11.28.2012 8:15 PM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln


Posted by: flamedude
I must admit, for the first time ever, that I've given up on Halo. At least for a while.

There's just no incentive and no challenge and no balance.


I mostly play now just for the sake of Halo. Its all chaos and overwhelming randomness right now.

I dont think its me either. I have like a 1.7 kd which is better than what I did in Reach.

  • 11.28.2012 8:16 PM PDT
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It's a new company presenting their take on a popular franchise. If you ask me Microsoft screwed them over from the get-go. A popular gaming series made by an experienced developer for YEARS since the original xbox and it's suddenly passed on to a fresh developer?
Are they retarded? I actually didn't have high standards for Halo 4, at first I did because it was a Halo title, but then I realized 343 just isn't going to be capable of working out the kinks on their first run.

Better hope the TU remedies everything applicable...so long as the mods on the waypoint forums don't ban every sensible gamer there.

  • 11.28.2012 8:17 PM PDT


Posted by: halomaster10144
I don't even really care, honestly. Reach proved that Halo was moving in an entirely different direction, so Halo 4 actually seemed like an improvement, despite its failure, compared to Halo 3 (and previous Halos).
reach stayed true to competetive halo. Halo 4 is entirely different. You could be amazing at reach and three because of skill. Halo 4 no such quality exists.

  • 11.28.2012 8:18 PM PDT

real gamertag is mvyorkie009

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yorkie

halo 4 is to easy to play and doesnt take much skill. there isnothing to keep me playing. id be happy with some new maps for halo 3 please.
yorkie

  • 11.28.2012 8:19 PM PDT