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Subject: Why don't people take Ancient Aliens seriously?

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.

I hate that show with a passion, it went from plausible ideas to extraordinarily insane baseless ramblings. Here are some answers as for how people did things.

- People can't lift some heavy stone? They use levers/pulleys or some other simple machine. You don't need god-tier technology to lift a rock.

- There are carvings of UFO's on rocks! Well guess what, just because we write things on paper doesn't mean they actually happened. Fiction isn't an incredibly new idea to humanity.

- Aliens did not make landing strips in South America, I don't think beings that could travel millions of light-years would need landing strips like a 747.

- When all you have to do in your life is get food, work, and sleep you'll have a lot of time for thinking. Thinking leads to ideas, like making sure a stone is as stone as possible to make their god happy, or creating a story about people wearing tinfoil coming from the sky to give us free stuff so we could be lazy.

Everything in that show can be explained or dismissed, quite easily.

  • 11.28.2012 8:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.


Young Earthers are stupid? Remember the piltdown man? A simple test would've proved it a fake, but nooooooo. You just had to keep it for 40 years and avoid all testing.

That somehow makes the Earth less than 10,000 years old? Perfect example of basing arguments in logical fallacy.


No, it just proves I cant trust everything people say. You not defending your epic fail in science makes me not want to listen even more.

[Edited on 11.28.2012 8:56 PM PST]

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I think there's a short documentary debunking Ancient Aliens.

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Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.

They do have evidence. They have recordings, physical explanations, the structures themselves that they even analyze, the literature of ancient civilizations, etc. All you did was use conjecture to make it seem like anything you said was valid when it's not.


Humans are smart, you know. A little bit of elbow grease, and nothing is impossible.

To lift a giant stone? It's hard enough lifting smaller stones with a crane.

  • 11.28.2012 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: VitalHalofreak
Especially the pyramids. I don't think slaves can lift all that, even if they all lift.

Slaves didn't build the pyramids, at least not the big ones.
It was a sophisticated project, they weren't tossing rocks into a pile.

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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.


Young Earthers are stupid? Remember the piltdown man? A simple test would've proved it a fake, but nooooooo. You just had to keep it for 40 years and avoid all testing.

That somehow makes the Earth less than 10,000 years old? Perfect example of basing arguments in logical fallacy.


No, it just proves I cant trust everything people say. You not defending your epic fail in science makes me not want to listen even more.

But... But... Star Child Skull

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Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.

They do have evidence. They have recordings, physical explanations, the structures themselves that they even analyze, the literature of ancient civilizations, etc. All you did was use conjecture to make it seem like anything you said was valid when it's not.


Humans are smart, you know. A little bit of elbow grease, and nothing is impossible.

To lift a giant stone? It's hard enough lifting smaller stones with a crane.


Simple machines, my firend. Simple ideas, simple to create, easy to use. They get jobs done. You don't think at all, and run after the aliens guess.

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Posted by: MartinOfRedwall

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.


Young Earthers are stupid? Remember the piltdown man? A simple test would've proved it a fake, but nooooooo. You just had to keep it for 40 years and avoid all testing.

That somehow makes the Earth less than 10,000 years old? Perfect example of basing arguments in logical fallacy.


No, it just proves I cant trust everything people say. You not defending your epic fail in science makes me not want to listen even more.

But... But... Star Child Skull


Kindof looks like a genetic fail to me. People are born weird sometimes. That could've been a different species altogether ou know.

  • 11.28.2012 8:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.

They do have evidence. They have recordings, physical explanations, the structures themselves that they even analyze, the literature of ancient civilizations, etc. All you did was use conjecture to make it seem like anything you said was valid when it's not.

Ancient literature is not credible evidence. Should we start sacrificing women during eclipses so the sun god is no longer mad at us, as ancient texts would tell us to do? Did fantastic mythical beasts come down and fight with the Greeks and help them slay their enemies? Do we really think so little of our not too distant relatives that their ability to build a pyramid or arrange rocks into a circle is proof of non-human intelligence? Nope.

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Posted by: Assassin 11D7
I hate that show with a passion, it went from plausible ideas to extraordinarily insane baseless ramblings. Here are some answers as for how people did things.

- People can't lift some heavy stone? They use levers/pulleys or some other simple machine. You don't need god-tier technology to lift a rock.

- There are carvings of UFO's on rocks! Well guess what, just because we write things on paper doesn't mean they actually happened. Fiction isn't an incredibly new idea to humanity.

- Aliens did not make landing strips in South America, I don't think beings that could travel millions of light-years would need landing strips like a 747.

- When all you have to do in your life is get food, work, and sleep you'll have a lot of time for thinking. Thinking leads to ideas, like making sure a stone is as stone as possible to make their god happy, or creating a story about people wearing tinfoil coming from the sky to give us free stuff so we could be lazy.

Everything in that show can be explained or dismissed, quite easily.

Some stones in stonehendge weighed up to 50 tons. There's no physical way humans could lift that with a pulley. The pulley wouldn't even support the weight.
Also, these drawings are consistent throughout the planet, and these are isolated civilizations describing the same encounter.
Also, you do realize the space shuttle uses a landing strip, right?
You didn't dismiss anything. You just showed your lack of knowledge about the entire subject.

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Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: MartinOfRedwall

But... But... Star Child Skull


Kindof looks like a genetic fail to me. People are born weird sometimes. That could've been a different species altogether ou know.

It was carbon-dated to be a few thousand years old. Its face is broken off from below the nose. It's skull is exactly 3 times thicker too. It was found in a cave next to a mother skeleton. They know it was the mother because the DNA tested the same for each. They could not identify the father. This is where the speculation begins and ends.

[Edited on 11.28.2012 9:07 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2012 9:05 PM PDT

RIP Logan ~B.B.


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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
They employ all the classic logical fallacies in place of evidence, and rely on superstition and mythology to make their "factual" case. They use a lack of evidence to the contrary as proof of their own argument.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They fail that test in every regard. Psuedo-scientific babble on par with the Young Earthers.


Young Earthers are stupid? Remember the piltdown man? A simple test would've proved it a fake, but nooooooo. You just had to keep it for 40 years and avoid all testing.

That somehow makes the Earth less than 10,000 years old? Perfect example of basing arguments in logical fallacy.


No, it just proves I cant trust everything people say. You not defending your epic fail in science makes me not want to listen even more.

How is Piltdown an epic fail? It is a testament to actual scientific process. No one's word is simply taken for granted. Frauds are discovered and discarded by the process of peer review. Some take a while, some are found nearly immediately. That's the beauty in it, the truth comes out through constant re-examination.

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I'm listeni- Oh wait I don't give a -blam!- what you have to say.


Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: omg a bannana
omg op is actually the aliens warning us his race is coming

If I was an alien, I wouldn't Earth. I'm sure we're fun to watch.
Is English your first language?

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Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: omg a bannana
omg op is actually the aliens warning us his race is coming

If I was an alien, I wouldn't Earth. I'm sure we're fun to watch.
Is English your first language?

I forgot a word. I mean if I was an alien, I would not invade earth.

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Relevent

  • 11.28.2012 9:16 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.


Posted by: Heart of Stone

Posted by: Assassin 11D7
I hate that show with a passion, it went from plausible ideas to extraordinarily insane baseless ramblings. Here are some answers as for how people did things.

- People can't lift some heavy stone? They use levers/pulleys or some other simple machine. You don't need god-tier technology to lift a rock.

- There are carvings of UFO's on rocks! Well guess what, just because we write things on paper doesn't mean they actually happened. Fiction isn't an incredibly new idea to humanity.

- Aliens did not make landing strips in South America, I don't think beings that could travel millions of light-years would need landing strips like a 747.

- When all you have to do in your life is get food, work, and sleep you'll have a lot of time for thinking. Thinking leads to ideas, like making sure a stone is as stone as possible to make their god happy, or creating a story about people wearing tinfoil coming from the sky to give us free stuff so we could be lazy.

Everything in that show can be explained or dismissed, quite easily.

Some stones in stonehendge weighed up to 50 tons. There's no physical way humans could lift that with a pulley. The pulley wouldn't even support the weight.
Also, these drawings are consistent throughout the planet, and these are isolated civilizations describing the same encounter.
Also, you do realize the space shuttle uses a landing strip, right?
You didn't dismiss anything. You just showed your lack of knowledge about the entire subject.

Do I have to explain every possible way they could have moved them? They could've put logs underneath the stones and rolled them back, they could have done it hundreds of different ways. Don't doubt Humanity's ingenuity.

What drawings are you specifically talking about? They've done that topic dozens of times, if I knew which case specifically it would help clear this up a lot.

Space Shuttles can't travel millions of light years, and if they could I think we would understand how to make them VTOL by then. Also, making landing strips in the shape of various animals wouldn't be very convenient for whoever is landing.

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***Aberrant Designs***

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Most of the show is just stupid entertainment. But every so often they make a few interesting observations that warrant pause.

  • 11.28.2012 9:38 PM PDT

See, I would believe what they said if there weren't other, more believable alternatives to how all of that was done.

  • 11.28.2012 9:41 PM PDT

I'm watching Transformers right now too.

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That show is -blam!-. They had an episode saying is bigfoot a alien. CMON really? REALLY?

  • 11.28.2012 9:55 PM PDT

I'm in love with Jesus and proud of it!

Because of that one guy's hair and spray-tan.

  • 11.28.2012 9:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Heart of Stone
many stone structures have perfectly geometrical shapes and edges.

But here's where it gets crazy: These structures have massive weight, weight that many humans combined cannot lift.


Why do so many people share the belief that ancient civilizations were too stupid to build these well crafted structures?

  • 11.28.2012 9:58 PM PDT

They don't tell you half the story... the half that doesn't support their claims.

  • 11.28.2012 10:05 PM PDT

Red vs Blue Fan. Doc is the best!

OP is an alien.

  • 11.28.2012 10:09 PM PDT

Oh, Rose Petals, do you never tire of posting such filth?

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