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Subject: I totally called all this hate for Halo 4

Posted by: Black Eagle X99
Yet there was no large outcry against Halo 3. Reach was way worse than anything ever seen reaction wise, Halo 4 is its own category. At least reach threads dominating the reach forum made sense. It takes a lot of anger to dominate the off topic forum.

I think that's because lolWaypoint bans you for the very fact of disliking the game.

  • 11.28.2012 10:18 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: Dobatch
Well...Reach is better than Halo 4

  • 11.28.2012 10:18 PM PDT

Skuldier? Never heard of him...


Posted by: Black Eagle X99
Yet there was no large outcry against Halo 3. Reach was way worse than anything ever seen reaction wise, Halo 4 is its own category. At least reach threads dominating the reach forum made sense. It takes a lot of anger to dominate the off topic forum.


Well to be fair, Reach had its own forum here. Halo 4 has Waypoint and a few scattered private groups here. Of course we all know what happens to dissenters in Waypoint.

  • 11.28.2012 10:18 PM PDT

Posted by: XxMuNcHmOnKeYxX
Posted by: Dobatch
Well... Halo 4 is better than Reach


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lol no.

  • 11.28.2012 10:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Dobatch
Well...Reach is better than Halo 4

Nope.

  • 11.28.2012 10:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: XxMuNcHmOnKeYxX
Posted by: Dobatch
Well... Halo 4 is better than Reach


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lol yes


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  • 11.28.2012 10:24 PM PDT

im not g­ay

No one with a brain is saying Reach is better.

Halo 4 was lackluster. It wasn't a return to form for the franchise. It was a marginal improvement.

[Edited on 11.28.2012 10:25 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2012 10:25 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: Oh Typhlosion
No one with a brain is saying Reach is better.

Halo 4 was lackluster. It wasn't a return to form for the franchise. It was a marginal improvement.

Nice one insulting people with a different opinion. Tell me, how is Halo 4 better than Halo: Reach?

  • 11.28.2012 10:30 PM PDT

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Complainers have more to talk about than people who like the game. In a series of games that is established chances are you will see more complaining then praise for it.

  • 11.28.2012 10:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Black Eagle X99
Yet there was no large outcry against Halo 3. Reach was way worse than anything ever seen reaction wise, Halo 4 is its own category. At least reach threads dominating the reach forum made sense. It takes a lot of anger to dominate the off topic forum.
How do those rose-colored glasses fit?

Let's turn back the clock and see what people were saying on this exact date back in 2007:

"Dear Bungie why did you guys make two awesome games then fallow up with a -blam!- one i just dont get it..... and everyone one says Halo 3 takes more skill LOL the only gametype in halo 3 that takes real skill is MLG"

" I remember when I used to play Halo all day and night. Now I'm lucky to sit through 3 games without getting bored."

"I'm not whining, I just want the Game I paid for, Halo 3, not Halo 2.5:the messed up edition, I really can't believe that after all the rigerous testing Bungie applied, they let the game ship with so many problems, wich I will not name or list"

"I'm an avid Halo player. Been playing' since the original Halo launched alongside the black beast. But I'm throughly disappointed with halo 3..... "

"it is no use to play team slayer always stupid players who don't understand the word teamwork they are running into four players alone -_-"

And that's just what I found after 5 minutes of searching through one day's worth of posts. So, as I said, take off the rose-colored glasses and realize that the complaints are nothing new, which is also why they are so predictable.

  • 11.28.2012 10:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

Posted by: Dobatch
Well...Reach is better than Halo 4

  • 11.28.2012 10:37 PM PDT

im not g­ay

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
Posted by: Oh Typhlosion
No one with a brain is saying Reach is better.

Halo 4 was lackluster. It wasn't a return to form for the franchise. It was a marginal improvement.

Nice one insulting people with a different opinion. Tell me, how is Halo 4 better than Halo: Reach?

As far as the multiplayer goes (shipped games), the basic gameplay mechanics are much better. Minimal bloom, best netcoding I've seen in a Halo game so far, base movement isn't clunky/feels smooth and natural, Armor Abilities are less game-breaking. It plays better than ship Reach.

Now, the maps are, as a general rule, awful. Haven is decent, Adrift is really good for CTF, Ragnarok would be good if you couldn't spawn with a DMR, Meltdown isn't bad. The rest are either meh or horrible. The class system doesn't belong in Halo, spawning with a 1 shot kill weapon + x ray vision is a tad bit ridiculous. Random global weapon drops are horrible, and the ordnances are ridiculous. Relay (or whatever it's called, the space one) is the best map in the game, but it isn't in MP. I'd put the maps about on par with Reach's. Zealot was fantastic once they blocked off space, MLG made Asylum much better, the rest of the maps were either okay or sucked ass.

It's better than Reach, but only marginally.

[Edited on 11.28.2012 10:41 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2012 10:38 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: Oh Typhlosion
Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
Posted by: Oh Typhlosion
No one with a brain is saying Reach is better.

Halo 4 was lackluster. It wasn't a return to form for the franchise. It was a marginal improvement.

Nice one insulting people with a different opinion. Tell me, how is Halo 4 better than Halo: Reach?

As far as the multiplayer goes (shipped games), the basic gameplay mechanics are much better. Minimal bloom, best netcoding I've seen in a Halo game so far, base movement isn't clunky/feels smooth and natural, Armor Abilities are less game-breaking. It plays better than ship Reach.

Sorry but shipped Reach didn't have custom loadouts, a progressive system that let's you unlock these perks, actually the netcode is worse than Reach's, ordinance drop that is random, random weapon placements. Basically, all the replay value I had trying to learn the maps where the weapons are gone. Top that off with lolinstantspawns. This game is worse than vanilla reach. Also, bloom on the pistol is not minimal.

Feeling smooth and natural to me has been in every Halo game so I have no idea what you are talking about. AA being less gamebreaking I can't agree. I say they are the same. Also, sprint isn't a AA anymore now everyone can run away.

It's better than Reach, but only marginally.
We are only talking about the matchmaking. We haven't talked about the butchered custom games, spartan ops being worse than firefight, and forge being worse. Campaign? They both sucked but hey at least there was campaign scoring.

  • 11.28.2012 10:49 PM PDT

Key

You "called" dislike for a game that people dislike?

Way to go?

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  • 11.28.2012 10:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: ANCIENTZOIDIAN
We all called it.


And am contributing to it.

  • 11.28.2012 10:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dragondude8o
It's not a bad game.

  • 11.28.2012 10:58 PM PDT
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It's not supernatural, the past Halo games just haven't been very good.

[Edited on 11.29.2012 11:04 AM PST]

  • 11.28.2012 10:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

And what did vannila reach ship with? oh right:

bloom
an invincibility button along with every other terribly unblanced AA
the cage and several other terrible forge maps
butchered remakes of great maps
the arena
one weapon sandbox
two vehicle sandbox
a ranking system that promotes idling (i've almost never seen an idler in halo 4)
no bleedthrough
reduced movement speed and jump height

Where do you buy your rose tinted glasses?

  • 11.28.2012 10:58 PM PDT

Mreh.

I call borderline obsessive hatred for all future Halo titles.

  • 11.28.2012 11:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Saying Reach is better than Halo 4 in comparison =/= Saying Reach is the best Halo

  • 11.28.2012 11:15 PM PDT
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I think Reach AND Halo 4 sucked though.

  • 11.28.2012 11:17 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.


Posted by: DarkJet7

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

And what did vannila reach ship with? oh right:

bloom
an invincibility button along with every other terribly unblanced AA
the cage and several other terrible forge maps
butchered remakes of great maps
the arena
one weapon sandbox
two vehicle sandbox
a ranking system that promotes idling (i've almost never seen an idler in halo 4)
no bleedthrough
reduced movement speed and jump height

Where do you buy your rose tinted glasses?

What did Halo 4 ship with?
Crappy forge
No FF
unbalanced AA
custom loadouts
random weapons
random weapon drops
rushed maps
butchered custom games
Bloom
No ranking system
A ranking system that also promotes idling(I have seen them)
1 remake that doesn't play well with the new playstyle and rushed maps
A heavier aim assist
lag compensation that is worse than Reach's
no campaign theater mode
A crappy UI
having to play the game to unloack emblems
instant respawns
Not sure where you were going with the vehicles part since they are pretty much the same but alas the vehicles are weaker in Halo 4.
I could go on if you want me to. Do you?

It isn't rose tinted anything.

  • 11.28.2012 11:20 PM PDT

wheni think about it now...

What is acutally wrong with Halo reach?

Nothin right?

  • 11.28.2012 11:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarkJet7

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

And what did vannila reach ship with? oh right:

bloom
an invincibility button along with every other terribly unblanced AA
the cage and several other terrible forge maps
butchered remakes of great maps
the arena
one weapon sandbox
two vehicle sandbox
a ranking system that promotes idling (i've almost never seen an idler in halo 4)
no bleedthrough
reduced movement speed and jump height

Where do you buy your rose tinted glasses?


Oh noes now with bloom I can't kill people faster than in Halo 3, I have to time my shots to make the accurate. This affects my usually playtime of 3 hours a session. Pro tip adapt.

Oh wait but we can't adapt its too hard to time your shots and its too difficult for us. I think I should make a thread for this called Bloom=No skill.

That was one of the Halo Reach's hate threads just reading bloom reminded me of those threads. Hate nearly always happens in every popular game series like Battlefield or Cod (classic examples).

  • 11.28.2012 11:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarkJet7

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R

And what did vannila reach ship with? oh right:

bloom
an invincibility button along with every other terribly unblanced AA
the cage and several other terrible forge maps
butchered remakes of great maps
the arena
one weapon sandbox
two vehicle sandbox
a ranking system that promotes idling (i've almost never seen an idler in halo 4)
no bleedthrough
reduced movement speed and jump height

Where do you buy your rose tinted glasses?


Oh noes now with bloom I can't kill people faster than in Halo 3, I have to time my shots to make the accurate. This affects my usually playtime of 3 hours a session. Pro tip adapt.

Oh wait but we can't adapt its too hard to time your shots and its too difficult for us. I think I should make a thread for this called Bloom=No skill.

That was one of the Halo Reach's hate threads just reading bloom reminded me of those threads. Hate nearly always happens in every popular game series like Battlefield or Cod (classic examples).

Bloom is terrible for competitive gameplay. It's random and it had rewarded spammers most of the time in DMR battles. And pacing my shots just puts me at just as big as a risk of losing because the other players random shots would all hit me anyways.

  • 11.28.2012 11:36 PM PDT

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