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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Might as well ask the next logical question.

Okay, you "stick up for yourself" (whatever that is) and despite the fact that you absolutely know that you're better able to stand on a moving bus than the person who you have decided is "their own worse enemy and responsible for their own problems" and you maintain your seat, he sighs, shrugs, and waddles off to grab an nearby pole and does his best to hang on.

The bus takes a turn, hits a bump, swerves and this man goes tumbling (when fit and morally superior you would have bent your knees and handled it). Still his fault? He falls and injures himself? What if he falls onto someone and they are both injured? Still his doing? Still feeling morally just and proper? You didn't contribute to the harm done to him and maybe others? Do you still feel good? Maybe even laugh at this example of cosmic justice?

Who would be contributory and somewhat responsible for those injuries? He tried to take steps to make his bulk more safely seated, his attempts to do so were denied and rebuffed (no pun intended). Does he sue the bus line? Does the little girl that he crushed? The driver for not making sure that people in obvious need of being seated were not seated and were unsafely standing and a danger to others?

Just wondering how this plays out in the minds of others.
If some fatass demands your seat, are you really gonna sit there and contemplate who's going to get sued if the fatass crushes a little girl?

  • 11.29.2012 11:08 AM PDT


Posted by: Garshne

Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: MadMax888
I don't see how OP would have been inconvenienced by letting the fat guy have his seat. If nothing, it would have made everyone happy. Can OP not stand for a short ride?


First come, first served.

Should I give up my spot in the DMV line because a fat guy is behind me and he has to stand longer?
You could if you were a nice person with a shred of compassion.

Rather unfortunate that you aren't.


Could you answer my last post directed towards you please?

I dont have a shred of compassion? hahaha, Sorry mate but ive done more good for the world in the past month than you have your entire life.

But no fatty, you cant have my bus seat.

  • 11.29.2012 11:08 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?

  • 11.29.2012 11:09 AM PDT
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They kicked you off the bus?

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You should have told Jabba that being fat isn't a disability, it's just a problem that exists because people like him are too dumb to diet or exercise.

  • 11.29.2012 11:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Posted by: MadMax888
I don't see how OP would have been inconvenienced by letting the fat guy have his seat. If nothing, it would have made everyone happy. Can OP not stand for a short ride?


First come, first served.

Should I give up my spot in the DMV line because a fat guy is behind me and he has to stand longer?
You could if you were a nice person with a shred of compassion.

Rather unfortunate that you aren't.
LOL. So compassionate people should go to the back of the line in the DMV?

That place is hell on Earth. No way I'm letting anyone go in front of me simply because they weigh more.

  • 11.29.2012 11:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?


If he was truly concerned with that risk, he shouldnt even have gotten on the bus in the first place.

If he didnt want to "crush" anyone, he should hit the gym.

Sorry, but his weight is completely on him. Just like my weight is completely my responsibility.

  • 11.29.2012 11:11 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?


You're kidding right?

You honestly think that's the reasoning behind the fatties request to take the seat?

No. He wants the seat because he's lazy and thinks people owe him something because he can't stop eating.

  • 11.29.2012 11:11 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Garland
If some fatass demands your seat, are you really gonna sit there and contemplate who's going to get sued if the fatass crushes a little girl?

If I see someone who is in more need of the seat than I, I am offering it to them before they even ask.

That's my methodology, which never gets to the point where I consider it "my seat".

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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?


If he was truly concerned with that risk, he shouldnt even have gotten on the bus in the first place.

If he didnt want to "crush" anyone, he should hit the gym.

Sorry, but his weight is completely on him. Just like my weight is completely my responsibility.
So he should just hit the gym for a year before he can take the bus home? How would he get anywhere? If he's taking the bus, public transport is probably his only mode of transportation.

  • 11.29.2012 11:12 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Garland
If some fatass demands your seat, are you really gonna sit there and contemplate who's going to get sued if the fatass crushes a little girl?

If I see someone who is in more need of the seat than I, I am offering it to them before they even ask.

That's my methodology, which never gets to the point where I consider it "my seat".


How tall are you?

At 6'4" I have a higher center of gravity making it more difficult for me to remain upright than small people.

Would you offer me your seat if you're under 6'4"?

  • 11.29.2012 11:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?
He could have got off the bus and walked.

gotta start losing weight eventually.

  • 11.29.2012 11:13 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Garland
If some fatass demands your seat, are you really gonna sit there and contemplate who's going to get sued if the fatass crushes a little girl?

If I see someone who is in more need of the seat than I, I am offering it to them before they even ask.

That's my methodology, which never gets to the point where I consider it "my seat".


Oh me too. An elderly person or truly disabled person or pregnant woman would get my seat. No doubt.

  • 11.29.2012 11:14 AM PDT

Guarantee all of the people arguing for fat people are fat themselves. Pretty sure I read in a really old thread that Recon is. Wouldn't be surprised about any of the others.

Stop blaming others for your problems. Seriously, it's your own fault. Either do something about it or stop complaining. We aren't your parents and have no obligations to your poor behavior.

  • 11.29.2012 11:14 AM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?


If he was truly concerned with that risk, he shouldnt even have gotten on the bus in the first place.

If he didnt want to "crush" anyone, he should hit the gym.

Sorry, but his weight is completely on him. Just like my weight is completely my responsibility.
So he should just hit the gym for a year before he can take the bus home? How would he get anywhere? If he's taking the bus, public transport is probably his only mode of transportation.


Buy a bike. Kill 2 birds with one stone

  • 11.29.2012 11:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kadoozy
Guarantee all of the people arguing for fat people are fat themselves. Pretty sure I read in a really old thread that Recon is. Wouldn't be surprised about any of the others.

Stop blaming others for your problems. Seriously, it's your own fault. Either do something about it or stop complaining. We aren't your parents and have no obligations to your poor behavior.
I'm not arguing FOR the fat guy, I'm arguing against the OP's decision and those who support him.

  • 11.29.2012 11:15 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Might as well ask the next logical question.

Okay, you "stick up for yourself" (whatever that is) and despite the fact that you absolutely know that you're better able to stand on a moving bus than the person who you have decided is "their own worse enemy and responsible for their own problems" and you maintain your seat, he sighs, shrugs, and waddles off to grab an nearby pole and does his best to hang on.

The bus takes a turn, hits a bump, swerves and this man goes tumbling (when fit and morally superior you would have bent your knees and handled it). Still his fault? He falls and injures himself? What if he falls onto someone and they are both injured? Still his doing? Still feeling morally just and proper? You didn't contribute to the harm done to him and maybe others? Do you still feel good? Maybe even laugh at this example of cosmic justice?

Who would be contributory and somewhat responsible for those injuries? He tried to take steps to make his bulk more safely seated, his attempts to do so were denied and rebuffed (no pun intended). Does he sue the bus line? Does the little girl that he crushed? The driver for not making sure that people in obvious need of being seated were not seated and were unsafely standing and a danger to others?

Just wondering how this plays out in the minds of others.


Still the fat guys fault.

If his intentions were to avoid injury for himself and those around him, he would of kindly suggested that to OP and explained. According to Op he did not though and instead glared at him expecting him to move so he could sit his fat asses down. Even if he did explain, OP should be aloud to stay (although morraly wrong) as it remains his fault for being so large.

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: MrBojangles136
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Garland
If some fatass demands your seat, are you really gonna sit there and contemplate who's going to get sued if the fatass crushes a little girl?

If I see someone who is in more need of the seat than I, I am offering it to them before they even ask.

That's my methodology, which never gets to the point where I consider it "my seat".
How tall are you?

At 6'4" I have a higher center of gravity making it more difficult for me to remain upright than small people.

Would you offer me your seat if you're under 6'4"?

6 even. If you are so top heavy that I felt that your need was greater than mine, yes I would offer.

Do you consider yourself in need of a seat, or just more comfortable in one? I can (at age 48, with my own awareness of my physical condition and capability) just as easily stand for a 40 minute train commute as sit. And I suspect that I could, person-by-person look at each other passenger in the car and see which one(s) that I would suspect would need/appreciate the seat more than I.

How is that hard, inconvenient or improper? I am simply looking around for anyone who may have a greater need than I, and without any additional consideration, then freely offer them my seat.

  • 11.29.2012 11:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Posted by: MadMax888
I don't see how OP would have been inconvenienced by letting the fat guy have his seat. If nothing, it would have made everyone happy. Can OP not stand for a short ride?
First come, first served.

Should I give up my spot in the DMV line because a fat guy is behind me and he has to stand longer?
You could if you were a nice person with a shred of compassion.

Rather unfortunate that you aren't.


Could you answer my last post directed towards you please?

I dont have a shred of compassion? hahaha, Sorry mate but ive done more good for the world in the past month than you have your entire life.

But no fatty, you cant have my bus seat.
I've already answered why I feel you're a sorry excuse for a human.

With so very little compassion I very sincerely doubt you've done anything for society, unless you mean your own self-important existence is somehow the driving force behind human success.

But you're resorting to calling me fat now, and assuming things about an anon on the internet, so if any of that is true it would only be so in your uncaring little mind.

10/10 for keeping me up until 5AM.

  • 11.29.2012 11:17 AM PDT


Posted by: MadMax888
I'm not arguing FOR the fat guy, I'm arguing against the OP's decision and those who support him.


Many people are arguing that fat people are entitled to special treatment from others that actually have self control; which simply isn't true.

  • 11.29.2012 11:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really not his fault. Its an accident. Falling and injuring someone else or yourself is an accident.

But he knew that he was at risk and a danger to himself and others if he were to stand on a swaying bus. He tried to get a seat, even took the extra and somewhat embarrassing step of asking someone "can I please have your seat, if I stand, I may not be able to remain standing if the bus swerves or bounces".

He knew that he was at risk, a danger to himself and others and did everything that he could to avoid the accident. He understood that a bus is a bouncy vehicle and asking for the seat was probably both a matter of safety (himself and others) and comfort (he's unable to stand well on a moving vehicle).

So, Karma?


Oh, so he knows when he's a risk? I doubt the first thought in his mind is, "Jeez, if I stand up, I could hurt someone." Humans, by nature, look out for themselves instead of others. It's a man eat man world, and the strong rise to the top.

  • 11.29.2012 11:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Garshne
I've already answered why I feel you're a sorry excuse for a human.

With so very little compassion I very sincerely doubt you've done anything for society, unless you mean your own self-important existence is somehow the driving force behind human success.

But you're resorting to calling me fat now, and assuming things about an anon on the internet, so if any of that is true it would only be so in your uncaring little mind.

10/10 for keeping me up until 5AM.


Ive NEVER called you fat, yet youve called me a terrible person, and said Ive had a little mind.

yet youre the one who cant refute my points. Makes sense.

I just dont see how I lack compassion and Im a horrible person for not feeling sorry for someone who didnt even have enough self respect to work out.

  • 11.29.2012 11:22 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Le Petit Chien
Oh, so he knows when he's a risk? I doubt the first thought in his mind is, "Jeez, if I stand up, I could hurt someone." Humans, by nature, look out for themselves instead of others. It's a man eat man world, and the strong rise to the top.

Yes, he knows that he is more likely to fall. I doubt that he is unaware that he's fat.

Are you serious, getting a seat is survival of the fittest? Do you also bare your teeth and pound your chest when you get a seat on public transit when others approach?

We live in a civilization. Civilization benefits everyone when we are willing to assist those who have needs. Public transit isn't the jungle, it's people who are in a confined space who have similar needs (to be taken from A to B) and are supposed to do their best to be considerate of each other and cooperate towards a shared and common experience that helps everyone.

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Posted by: MrBojangles136

You honestly think that's the reasoning behind the fatties request to take the seat?

No. He wants the seat because he's lazy and thinks people owe him something because he can't stop eating.


What are you basing this certainty that he is lazy and feel he is owed something on? Have you some proof, or is it a blind hatred of obese people?

  • 11.29.2012 11:37 AM PDT

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Well, the way i see it is thus;

The fat guy needs a seat more than you. now you can either sit down at armpit height and smell his delicious sweaty musk, and risk him sitting on you by accident or design.

OR, you could stand, enjoy the unique challenge of bus surfing (balancing without holding on, great fun...) and also marvel at your own non-fatness, reflecting on your generosity and kindness, knowing that everyone on the bus respects you just that little bit more for being an adult about the situation.

  • 11.29.2012 11:56 AM PDT