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Subject: Competitive Players should design MP

It's just the truth

Look at Halo 4

The core is excellent but it is covered with a dog pile of casual -blam!- that just make it bad

Big maps
Instant Respawn
Care Packages
DMR breaks almost every BTB map


Don't get me wrong

Halo 4 is 10000x better than Reach, but yo, this game can be the Greatest of all time if some competitive player like Bravo was to give the settings for default

Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
Halo 3 was somewhat competitive and had a high population
Halo Reach was a broken game designed for casuals and had an OK Population
Halo 4 is a good game covered with casual -blam!- and is declining pretty fast in population

Competitive and Balanced Games bring in more people

343, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

The reason CoD is always on the top is because it is always the same

343, you are not going to get new players by putting stupid gimmicks in Halo.....

  • 11.29.2012 6:44 PM PDT

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Then we'd end up with an incredibly unbalanced, contradictory, and effectively unplayable piece of crap. Designing a game that's actually enjoyable is a lot harder than making a list of complaints and pushing a magic button.

[Edited on 11.29.2012 6:49 PM PST]

  • 11.29.2012 6:48 PM PDT


Posted by: TehWarMoose
Then we'd end up with an incredibly unbalanced, contradictory, and effectively unplayable piece of crap. Designing a game that's actually enjoyable is a lot harder than making a list of complaints and pushing a magic button.

  • 11.29.2012 6:49 PM PDT

Casuals will play and love a competitive game.

But competitives will NOT play a casual game.

So make a fair and balanced game and watch it flourish

  • 11.29.2012 7:05 PM PDT

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Casuals will play and love a competitive game.

But competitives will NOT play a casual game.

So make a fair and balanced game and watch it flourish


LoL and Starcraft yo

  • 11.29.2012 7:07 PM PDT


Posted by: DatDudeBV
Casuals will play and love a competitive game.

But competitives will NOT play a casual game.

So make a fair and balanced game and watch it flourish
This is why cod does well and halo 2/3 for that matter. I don't believe there is anyway to shut that point down.

  • 11.29.2012 7:07 PM PDT
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Lol you're implying that competitive players designed Halo 2 and 3 multiplayer?

  • 11.29.2012 7:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: snip3r dud33
Honestly, this is a good cover up for all the idiots who won't know its a cover up .

Wasn't it helped by some of the allegedly best MLG players?

And now it caters to casuals?

  • 11.29.2012 7:16 PM PDT


Posted by: NinStarRune
Wasn't it helped by some of the allegedly best MLG players?

And now it caters to casuals?


The game was essentially done when they were invited.

And even then, people arent going to flat out say, This game is terrible. To the people who just devoted the last 2 years of their lives to making it.

  • 11.29.2012 7:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Effective Strafe
Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
It also had zero competition on Live apart from RTCW which was almost 2 years old.

  • 11.29.2012 7:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Effective Strafe
Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
It also had zero competition on Live apart from RTCW which was almost 2 years old.


It doesnt matter if it had competition or not.

If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.

  • 11.29.2012 7:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Effective Strafe

Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
Halo 3 was somewhat competitive and had a high population
Halo Reach was a broken game designed for casuals and had an OK Population
Halo 4 is a good game covered with casual -blam!- and is declining pretty fast in population


Halo 2 had no competition. It essentially helped jump start xBox Live.

Halo 3 had almost no competition. CoD4 came out around the same time, and hadn't gained the popularity it now enjoys.

Halo Reach had competition from MW2.

Halo 4 has competition from BO2.

  • 11.29.2012 7:19 PM PDT

I would die inside....

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No.

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.


A game as broken as Halo 2 was would be dead in a week.

  • 11.29.2012 7:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Seggi31
No.


Why?

  • 11.29.2012 7:20 PM PDT

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"Casual" is just a term used by folks as a justification to not listen to others with a differing view.

Example: I disagree, but because of my disagreement I must be a casual and thus my opinion doesn't matter.

  • 11.29.2012 7:22 PM PDT


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Effective Strafe
Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
It also had zero competition on Live apart from RTCW which was almost 2 years old.


If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.


And how did you expect to not come off as a fanboy with that sentence?

  • 11.29.2012 7:22 PM PDT
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GrownPrism is NOT my gt. Happened when signing into my xbox live account. My real gt is here:

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Default.aspx?player=SYNTHES lS&sg=0

Halo 4 is weird. At first, I liked it, but eventually I just saw the flaws and honestly, the game at its core is good, but the gimmicks ruin it.

  • 11.29.2012 7:22 PM PDT

Signatures are for little kids.


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Effective Strafe
Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
It also had zero competition on Live apart from RTCW which was almost 2 years old.


It doesnt matter if it had competition or not.

If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.
It's easy to make claims that can never be proved.

  • 11.29.2012 7:22 PM PDT

Big maps are fine in any game, as long as the player cap fits the size of the map that is.

Like bf3 on consoles, some of the maps are way too big for a console player cap.

  • 11.29.2012 7:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.
Doubt it.

  • 11.29.2012 7:24 PM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Effective Strafe
Halo 2 was competitive and had a high population
It also had zero competition on Live apart from RTCW which was almost 2 years old.


If Halo 2 was released today, it would beat out all call of duties.


And how did you expect to not come off as a fanboy with that sentence?


I am a fanboy. I love halo mjultiplayer

But its embarrassing what halo has become.

  • 11.29.2012 7:25 PM PDT

No, that's the worst idea I've ever heard, you "competitive pros" would have no Idea what you're doing, you have no Idea what balance is, how map dynamics work, how lines of sight have to be fairly balanced, depth, height of maps, if it should be a Vehicle map, or a close quarters map... Now, if you gave the best forgers in halo free reign to make a map... well then you'd have balance, map dynamics, and proper maps... all of that good stuff that everyone likes.

All the other stuff IDGAF unless you nerf my full auto weapons. if you think DMRs ande BRs should beat out the rest I don't want you even THINKING about weapon sandbox.

[Edited on 11.29.2012 7:27 PM PST]

  • 11.29.2012 7:25 PM PDT

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