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Subject: School Suicide.

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I had a friend from school named David Phan that ended his life tragically yesterday with a gunshot to the head at the public overpass near the school.I had just arrived home, when my younger brother (10) called me, saying that the intersection was being stormed with ambulances. I thought there might've been a minor car crash, as I'd just heard a few sirens. Exceptionally disturbed by their panic as it had now been going on for a while, I went to check out the skybridge later, unaware of what was honestly going on. After the EMTs and EMCs left the scene and cleaned up, I checked it out later. There was staining from the blood, girls crying and news anchors covering every inch of the intersection between my home and school. It was horrifying. The information regarding the situation lies here.

I lost an uncle to diabetes when I was six, his main role was to look out and care for my grandparents. He was their main provider, and his death wracked our grandparents's hearts with pain.

On March 31st, 2009, my baby brother Jaxan Joseph Oliver was stillborn. I'd seen death before, but this is one of the times that it directly impacted me. I started to become antisocial, and even cut myself on a few occasions. The scars are still there, accompanied by a massive gash on my right shin. This is wrong. I surely wish I had not done that. There are other ways of dealing with this.

Just last May I lost my other uncle that played an even bigger role in watching out for my grandparents. He ended his life with a gunshot to the heart.

On a few occasions in the past, I have even considered this way out (only temporarily after the events with my baby brother). I want to make it known this is not the way of dealing with this. See a grief counselor. Get help. Suicide is a horribly selfish act and shouldn't even cross your mind at any given time. It doesn't only affect your immediate family, but your extended family and community as well. If you are bullied, do something about it. Tell a responsible adult. I've been bullied all my life and counselors have helped tremendously. Just talk things out. If you took the time to read this, I appreciate it. God bless David's family and they have my best wishes.

[Edited on 11.30.2012 12:35 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2012 12:35 PM PDT
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  • 11.30.2012 12:40 PM PDT

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  • 11.30.2012 12:43 PM PDT

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lol

OP, im sorry your loss. Godspeed and David is in a better world now :)

  • 11.30.2012 12:47 PM PDT


Posted by: natergator08
Suicide is a horribly selfish act and shouldn't even cross your mind at any given time.
And here you insult someone you considered a friend

What I don't get is; there were kids there to witness it, right? So why does no one know why he did it? Did no one care enough to ask, or where they just trying to convince him to suffer a little longer?

  • 11.30.2012 12:49 PM PDT

Recon Number 54 -
If they are still looking, then while holding the snarl, I let drool start to drip from my mouth, I stand, curl my fingers into claws and with a hunched over crouch, I then make slow and deliberate steps towards them. When I get close enough, I let them hear my agonized and gasping growls and then, if they continue to stare, when I get within arm's reach? I kiss them on the nose, and run away giggling.

:/ Sorry to hear this OP

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I'm sorry OP, I wish there was something I could do to help. But good for you for not following the same path, it takes a strong individual to realize that themselves

  • 11.30.2012 12:50 PM PDT

Sometimes it pains me that our world can be so bad that someone will do whatever they can to escape it.

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My condolences, OP.

  • 11.30.2012 12:51 PM PDT

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Bullying isn't a problem, right?

  • 11.30.2012 12:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: TURTLER9

Posted by: natergator08
Suicide is a horribly selfish act and shouldn't even cross your mind at any given time.
And here you insult someone you considered a friend

What I don't get is; there were kids there to witness it, right? So why does no one know why he did it? Did no one care enough to ask, or where they just trying to convince him to suffer a little longer?
What he did wasn't the right way to handle things. I still love him as a family friend regardless.

He'd been picked on since second grade I've heard, and he was in ninth this year. He had been seeing a counselor, but the news said he'd never reported any bullying issues. They're still looking into it.

EDIT: I appreciate your compassion, guys. These issues are real, and affect people.

[Edited on 11.30.2012 12:58 PM PST]

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Posted by: natergator08

Posted by: TURTLER9

Posted by: natergator08
Suicide is a horribly selfish act and shouldn't even cross your mind at any given time.
And here you insult someone you considered a friend

What I don't get is; there were kids there to witness it, right? So why does no one know why he did it? Did no one care enough to ask, or where they just trying to convince him to suffer a little longer?
What he did wasn't the right way to handle things. I still love him as a family friend regardless.

He'd been picked on since second grade I've heard, and he was in ninth this year. He had been seeing a counselor, but the news said he'd never reported any bullying issues. They're still looking into it.
You never did anything to help him? Doesn't sound like much of a friend.

  • 11.30.2012 12:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888
You never did anything to help him? Doesn't sound like much of a friend.

I never would've guessed he'd do something like this. I was aware of his problems, and conversed with him. He seemed perfectly happy.

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So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.

-Gandalf

That sucks. I'm sorry OP. However, I have no real symphony for anyone that takes their own life. If anyone I know were to do such a thing, I'd be sad, but angry at the same time.

  • 11.30.2012 1:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Decimator Omega
That sucks. I'm sorry OP. However, I have no real symphony for anyone that takes their own life. If anyone I know were to do such a thing, I'd be sad, but angry at the same time.
Why? It's hardly your decision to make.

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  • 11.30.2012 1:13 PM PDT

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  • 11.30.2012 1:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: natergator08

Posted by: TURTLER9

Posted by: natergator08
Suicide is a horribly selfish act and shouldn't even cross your mind at any given time.
And here you insult someone you considered a friend

What I don't get is; there were kids there to witness it, right? So why does no one know why he did it? Did no one care enough to ask, or where they just trying to convince him to suffer a little longer?
What he did wasn't the right way to handle things. I still love him as a family friend regardless.

He'd been picked on since second grade I've heard, and he was in ninth this year. He had been seeing a counselor, but the news said he'd never reported any bullying issues. They're still looking into it.
You never did anything to help him? Doesn't sound like much of a friend.


You're implying that everytime someone commits suicide there was a well-known chain of events that lead up to it. Despite what the media likes to portray, this is not always the case. Why do you think people have such issues with closure surrounding suicide victims? Because they often didn't see it coming.



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Posted by: Decimator Omega
That sucks. I'm sorry OP. However, I have no real symphony for anyone that takes their own life. If anyone I know were to do such a thing, I'd be sad, but angry at the same time.
Why? It's hardly your decision to make.

And it being out of his hands means he cannot be affected by it? That is some pretty stupid logic right there. This is why no matter what anyone wants to believe about it, suicide is a selfish decision. Yes, it is the individuals choice, but it does effect nearly everyone around the individual, one way or another.

  • 11.30.2012 1:21 PM PDT


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Seriously stop quoting this. A person is dead think before you quote stuff or post insensitive stuff.

OT: I'm sorry to hear this.

[Edited on 11.30.2012 1:29 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2012 1:29 PM PDT

Posted by: SweetTRIX
Posted by: TURTLER9

Posted by: Decimator Omega
That sucks. I'm sorry OP. However, I have no real symphony for anyone that takes their own life. If anyone I know were to do such a thing, I'd be sad, but angry at the same time.
Why? It's hardly your decision to make.

And it being out of his hands means he cannot be affected by it? That is some pretty stupid logic right there. This is why no matter what anyone wants to believe about it, suicide is a selfish decision. Yes, it is the individuals choice, but it does effect nearly everyone around the individual, one way or another.
No, it's just uncalled for for him to be mad at everyone that commits suicide. It is usually a selfish choice, yes, but the way most people react to things like this (aside from those who are truthfully heartbroken) is just as selfish

[Edited on 11.30.2012 1:32 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2012 1:31 PM PDT

Damn OP :'( Sorry to hear that.

My condolences.

  • 11.30.2012 1:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX
Posted by: TURTLER9

Posted by: Decimator Omega
That sucks. I'm sorry OP. However, I have no real symphony for anyone that takes their own life. If anyone I know were to do such a thing, I'd be sad, but angry at the same time.
Why? It's hardly your decision to make.

And it being out of his hands means he cannot be affected by it? That is some pretty stupid logic right there. This is why no matter what anyone wants to believe about it, suicide is a selfish decision. Yes, it is the individuals choice, but it does effect nearly everyone around the individual, one way or another.
No, it's just uncalled for for him to be mad at everyone that commits suicide. It is usually a selfish choice, yes, but the way most people react to things like this (aside from those who are truthfully heartbroken) is just as selfish

Allow me to bold the part you missed. He is talking about people he knows, not everyone who commits suicide.

[Edited on 11.30.2012 1:48 PM PST]

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hahahahha OP you poor sad bastard.... lol grow a pair.

  • 11.30.2012 1:50 PM PDT

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  • 11.30.2012 1:54 PM PDT


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lol

OP, im sorry your loss. Too bad there's not another world though.

  • 11.30.2012 1:54 PM PDT

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