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Subject: Destiny Discussion: Let's have a chat about Walking Tanks
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Posted by: thatguyaknow
I dont think those legs are meant for walking. The front "leg" is far too bendy and long to be used to walk in tandem witht the stubby looking back ones.


Agree. It seems to be a "leg" but i don't think it's for walking... my theory is that the leg is some tube for sucking stuff inside the "tank". If these guys are the bad guys, then maybe it's used for sucking up humans or maybe resources from the earth.

I would also love to know the purpose of that probe. Does it engage in combat, scans for stuff or maybe both?!

  • 12.01.2012 2:50 PM PDT

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The only reasons I can think of are pretty much said. It looks like it would be a more efficient version to use in space due to low gravity points, might be for very rough terrain to get around that standard treds could not. Might even not be a tank, might be a mobile mortar emplacement and the legs are just shock absorbers (as stated above).

  • 12.01.2012 2:54 PM PDT
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Looking at other comments about it, people have said it could be a lifeform. Looking at that forward most 'leg', I have to agree.

  • 12.01.2012 2:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: The EAKLE
Maybe it's really the feet that are special, and not the legs themselves. If they had some form of thrusters they could be angled to jump and evade, or if the feet had claws they could be used for climbing and in combat.

Which would be incredibly bad ass. A Tank that picks up other tanks with claws and rips them in half.
It's not too far-fetched to believe that we could have fully animatronic animal-robots in 700 years considering the fact that we have the kind of stuff TU posted. Boston Dynamics has a robot that can run 28.3 miles per hour, a humanoid robot that can independently navigate a basic obstacle course, a robot the size of a book that can jump 30 feet in the air, etc. Over the course of 700 years I'm sure someone could come up with something this big and feasible in real-world application.

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  • 12.01.2012 7:05 PM PDT

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This thread would have appealed to me more if it was written with crayons.
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Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
I say it looks like an animal.
Same, I cant get the Elephants from Lord of the Rings out my head.

  • 12.01.2012 7:29 PM PDT

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I don't know if this has already been said yet, but that tank looks like a cannon mounted on the back of a creature.

  • 12.01.2012 7:35 PM PDT

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Probably an animal.

  • 12.01.2012 8:40 PM PDT

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Maybe there are wheels on the bottom but the legs are for the terrain or it hovers. We may only know in hopefully 9 to 11 months.

Edit: It could be like G.O.W brumak

[Edited on 12.01.2012 8:47 PM PST]

  • 12.01.2012 8:44 PM PDT
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It's a frog tank. Half frog, half tank, and half badass.

  • 12.01.2012 9:06 PM PDT

Posted by: EL
It's a frog tank. Half frog, half tank, and half badass.
Very inspiring.

  • 12.01.2012 9:11 PM PDT

Posted by: A Bit Of Zero
This thread would have appealed to me more if it was written with crayons.
Posted by: King Dutchy
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Posted by: EL
It's a frog tank. Half frog, half tank, and half badass.
Ship it

  • 12.01.2012 9:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: EL
It's a frog tank. Half frog, half tank, and half badass.
Very inspiring.
Eh, I was lazy and didn't draw the ground troops. BTW the frog tank is called Kermitkampfwagen.

  • 12.01.2012 9:18 PM PDT

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Bipedal tanks are not a bad idea, obviously they have access to more impassable terrain. One of the main concerns when designing them is the structural endurance of the joints. That's the risk...you have to balance out the pros and cons as best possible. For example...The Gecko
Pros are it's maneuverability and its' speed. Armaments are two MK2 .50 calibre machine guns but that's about it...it's not used to engage other armor but rather to disrupt infantry with ruthless speed and cause major disorientation within the ranks. Cons are its' legs...obviously, you put enough rounds into it and you'll bring it down. But that's why they travel in packs.


Same thing should apply with the tanks in Destiny...one single tank is easy to overcome if you can get around it...not so easy when you have to deal with three or four of them at once. The tank looks like it's not for combating infantry so my guess is that it will have a large canon along with at least 2 point defenses. The main idea is that you don't want them alone...you could even have infantry support with it.

Below is my old OP from a tank discussion about two years ago...it is most likely out of date but it's a good stepping stone to base ideas off of...

During the 10 long years we've been at war in the Middle East it has become painfully clear that as sophisticated as our tanks, APCs, and IFVs are they can still be knocked out by the cheapest of explosives. The Defense Industry has been on a constant crunch to create the next best type of armor to ensure that the operators remain safe or even prevent the immobilization of our vehicles. Obviously structural weaknesses and design flaws come with the territory and often attempts to rectify these flaws result in sacrifices that are unacceptable to the performance of the hardware in the field. Back in World War 2 the U.S. was far behind in Tank development while Germany(granted they were developing the things year round) being at the top.

Russia produced the T-34 at record numbers and they had a surprisingly high level of quality to them(obviously not as good as a Tiger) but decent to the point where they were useful in combating German tanks....The U.S. had come into the party late but produced a decent tank for the time but the problem was range and armor....The Stewart being what it was was the least acceptable tank to take on the German Panzers due to its' miniature status....The Sherman was an impressive piece but lacked sufficient frontside armor and the barrel length was inadequate for a one on one confrontation....The Americans adapted by having them travel in packs which did give the allies a real fighting chance against the beats of the German war machine.

The British took the American tank and turned it into a remarkable piece of steel. The 17 pounder allowed for a greater engagement range and quicker firing but on the flip killed the tanks ability to be effective against infantry whereas the M4 Sherman was capable of firing canister rounds to deal with infantry within 200 yards. The M4 had a successful penetration range of 1000 yards against a Panzer IV but when Tigers and Panthers made entry the effectiveness deteriorated. Oh look at me getting off track, back to the Firefly. The Firefly 17 pounder was able to penetrate some 140 mm of armour at 500 m (550 yd) and 131 mm at 1,000 m (1,100 yd) using standard Armour Piercing, Capped, Ballistic Capped (APCBC) ammunition at a 30 degree angle. But enough about history.....moving on to this generation....

The urbanization of warfare. The world's population is rapidly moving to the cities. Cities are tough for big, open manuver-warfare-focused forces to fight in. Think Fallujah, Ramadi, Sadr City, Grozny, Hue. No fun. Fighting in cities can reduce American ground forces advantages in stand off weapons, mobility, precision weapons, communications and ISR gear, according to CSBA. Furthermore, urban eviction and control operations typically require use of sizeable ground forces and involve protracted fights incurring heavy casualties. A pit fill of pipe bombs has sufficient strength to knock the treads of an Abrams or Bradley. Even the cheap but practical rocket propelled grenade is sufficient.


[Edited on 12.01.2012 9:36 PM PST]

  • 12.01.2012 9:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
I say it looks like an animal.
Same, I cant get the Elephants from Lord of the Rings out my head.
I come back from a LoTR online binge and there's Destiny stuff leaked? I pick the worst times to take leaves.

I would figure that for making a tank that large and for not completely destroying what you're walking over, legs would be better than treads. There's a prototype harvester that uses legs like that. I mean, if you're taking over a world, why would you want the soil to be unusable from your tank treads?

Also, they're Mûmakil, not elephants. /nerd

  • 12.02.2012 1:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: talon2000
What if they're houses?

What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?
mine

  • 12.02.2012 1:17 AM PDT

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I hope we can drive them..

  • 12.02.2012 1:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: SkilPhil
Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
I say it looks like an animal.
Same, I cant get the Elephants from Lord of the Rings out my head.
I come back from a LoTR online binge and there's Destiny stuff leaked? I pick the worst times to take leaves.

I would figure that for making a tank that large and for not completely destroying what you're walking over, legs would be better than treads. There's a prototype harvester that uses legs like that. I mean, if you're taking over a world, why would you want the soil to be unusable from your tank treads?

Also, they're Mûmakil, not elephants. /nerd
Can't top my /nerd.

  • 12.02.2012 1:34 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


Posted by: EL
It's a frog tank. Half frog, half tank, and half badass.

Why did this suddenly start playing in my head?

BTW, about creatures, I was thinking something more like this.

[Edited on 12.02.2012 2:45 AM PST]

  • 12.02.2012 2:45 AM PDT

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The tank is cool and all, but what about the grey orb infront of it? Has someone opened a thread about it?

  • 12.02.2012 5:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: the real Janaka
The tank is cool and all, but what about the grey orb infront of it? Has someone opened a thread about it?
I haven't seen suach threads.

I have to say that the Flea Tank is much more interesting subject of discussion than advanced floating orb. =P

  • 12.02.2012 5:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: the real Janaka
The tank is cool and all, but what about the grey orb infront of it? Has someone opened a thread about it?
I haven't seen suach threads.

I have to say that the Flea Tank is much more interesting subject of discussion than advanced floating orb. =P
That is true, manifestly true; haven't even seen anyone mention it yet..

Back to the tank..

A thought hit me a couple of minutes ago. Since Destiny will feature knights, and Bungie tend to be fairly thematic, what if all the knights vehicles are refered to as something thematically along the lines of a horse, an armour clad horse? Just like the UNSC gave most of their vehicles animal names, and named the Covenant vehicles after ghostly entities.

If these soldiers--or whatever they are--are enemies however, maybe their vehicles/means of transortation and utility are under another collective theme? Fleas, frogs, moths, and other pests; things nobility fought against?

  • 12.02.2012 5:52 AM PDT

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I'm not reading through five pages to see if the one idea I had for it having legs was mentioned, so apologies if it's been said before:

It's an artillery tank by the looks of it. Digging in its legs will give a far better balance when firing than a treaded tank would. Treaded tanks recoil and can spin slightly out of their line of sight, meaning they have to re-align. With legs, the knees absorb the majority of the kinetic energy while the spread footholds prevent slippage.

  • 12.02.2012 5:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dropship dude
I'm not reading through five pages to see if the one idea I had for it having legs was mentioned, so apologies if it's been said before:

It's an artillery tank by the looks of it. Digging in its legs will give a far better balance when firing than a treaded tank would. Treaded tanks recoil and can spin slightly out of their line of sight, meaning they have to re-align. With legs, the knees absorb the majority of the kinetic energy while the spread footholds prevent slippage.


Plus it looks cool, that is important.

  • 12.02.2012 6:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dropship dude
I'm not reading through five pages to see if the one idea I had for it having legs was mentioned, so apologies if it's been said before:

It's an artillery tank by the looks of it. Digging in its legs will give a far better balance when firing than a treaded tank would. Treaded tanks recoil and can spin slightly out of their line of sight, meaning they have to re-align. With legs, the knees absorb the majority of the kinetic energy while the spread footholds prevent slippage.
Reminds me of this.

  • 12.02.2012 6:05 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


Posted by: the real Janaka
Posted by: Gamer Whale
Posted by: the real Janaka
The tank is cool and all, but what about the grey orb infront of it? Has someone opened a thread about it?
I haven't seen suach threads.

I have to say that the Flea Tank is much more interesting subject of discussion than advanced floating orb. =P
That is true, manifestly true; haven't even seen anyone mention it yet..

Back to the tank..

A thought hit me a couple of minutes ago. Since Destiny will feature knights, and Bungie tend to be fairly thematic, what if all the knights vehicles are refered to as something thematically along the lines of a horse, an armour clad horse? Just like the UNSC gave most of their vehicles animal names, and named the Covenant vehicles after ghostly entities.

If these soldiers--or whatever they are--are enemies however, maybe their vehicles/means of transortation and utility are under another collective theme? Fleas, frogs, moths, and other pests; things nobility fought against?
Could be. Maybe there's an air vehicle named Dragon. =P

  • 12.02.2012 6:22 AM PDT