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Subject: Could it be possible that alien life exist in our solar system but

They are in a primitive state? Take one of the satellites from Jupiter, Europa, for example. They could be aquatic sentience life forms but are in a primitive technological state. It's a possibility.

Do you think so Flood? And do we as the more advanced species help others become just as advanced?

  • 11.30.2012 3:13 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Or maybe there is a hidden Crytum inside such moon. We must unlock it!

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13.72 billion years in the making.

On December 1st, 2012, I met Neil deGrasse Tyson. I shook the man's hand, and even made him laugh. Not much else to do with my life now.

It's a possibility, but pretty far-fetched.

[Edited on 11.30.2012 3:15 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2012 3:14 PM PDT
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You Eyeballin Me?

Im surpised you primitives havent found Coneworld yet.

  • 11.30.2012 3:15 PM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.

Absolutely.

  • 11.30.2012 3:15 PM PDT

It is very much possible that life, albeit not "advanced life", exists within our solar system outside of Earth - I am hearing rumours at the moment that NASA has a rather large announcement to make about something Curiosity may have discovered on Mars (there's talk of it being life, but we'll see...)

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13.72 billion years in the making.

On December 1st, 2012, I met Neil deGrasse Tyson. I shook the man's hand, and even made him laugh. Not much else to do with my life now.

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
It is very much possible that life, albeit not "advanced life", exists within our solar system outside of Earth - I am hearing rumours at the moment that NASA has a rather large announcement to make about something Curiosity may have discovered on Mars (there's talk of it being life, but we'll see...)

The data was wrong, and the discovery was a bust.

Sorry.

  • 11.30.2012 3:17 PM PDT
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bane: lets not stand on ceremony here mr wayne
batman: ok
bane: your punishment must be more severe
batman: im gothams rekoning
bane: me too
batman: oh


Posted by: WinyPit82
It's a possibility, but pretty far-fetched.

  • 11.30.2012 3:18 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.

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13.72 billion years in the making.

On December 1st, 2012, I met Neil deGrasse Tyson. I shook the man's hand, and even made him laugh. Not much else to do with my life now.

Posted by: Silent Breath
But what if they're lying?

...That'd be pretty pointless.

  • 11.30.2012 3:20 PM PDT

1. Half-Life 2
2. Mass Effect 3
3. Mass Effect 2
4. Tie between Halo 3 and CoD4
5. Medal of Honor or Spec Ops: The Line

"You can be larger than life. But you can't be larger than death."

I heard it's possible that micro-organisms could live in the clouds of Venus but I seriously doubt any other form of life is in our solar system. Relevant.

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Posted by: WinyPit82
It's a possibility, but pretty far-fetched.

  • 11.30.2012 3:21 PM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.


The Drake Equation is pretty much useless, except for science fiction writers. The variables themselves within the equation should give multiple reasons why it's uselessness is self-explanatory. It is for sensationalists (especially exaggerated by the media) not real scientists such as astrobiologists and the like.

  • 11.30.2012 3:26 PM PDT


Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
It is very much possible that life, albeit not "advanced life", exists within our solar system outside of Earth - I am hearing rumours at the moment that NASA has a rather large announcement to make about something Curiosity may have discovered on Mars (there's talk of it being life, but we'll see...)
wasnt that microbes they found?

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Posted by: WinyPit82
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
It is very much possible that life, albeit not "advanced life", exists within our solar system outside of Earth - I am hearing rumours at the moment that NASA has a rather large announcement to make about something Curiosity may have discovered on Mars (there's talk of it being life, but we'll see...)

The data was wrong, and the discovery was a bust.

Sorry.


Ah, had not heard this - that's a shame, oh well science is science we'll keep on looking!

  • 11.30.2012 3:27 PM PDT


Posted by: WinyPit82
It's a possibility, but pretty far-fetched.


I reckon it's an impossibility. Life needs nutrition and there is none on other planets inside this solar system.

  • 11.30.2012 3:34 PM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.


Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.


The Drake Equation is pretty much useless, except for science fiction writers. The variables themselves within the equation should give multiple reasons why it's uselessness is self-explanatory. It is for sensationalists (especially exaggerated by the media) not real scientists such as astrobiologists and the like.


Are you implying science fiction writers cannot be "real scientists"?

Though I agree with your sensationalist comment.

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.


The Drake Equation is pretty much useless, except for science fiction writers. The variables themselves within the equation should give multiple reasons why it's uselessness is self-explanatory. It is for sensationalists (especially exaggerated by the media) not real scientists such as astrobiologists and the like.

It provides a logical outline of the various factors and lays them out in a way that demonstrates just how much is not known and how profoundly the possibility can swing due to the uncertainty and the huge numbers involved.

  • 11.30.2012 3:36 PM PDT


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Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.


The Drake Equation is pretty much useless, except for science fiction writers. The variables themselves within the equation should give multiple reasons why it's uselessness is self-explanatory. It is for sensationalists (especially exaggerated by the media) not real scientists such as astrobiologists and the like.


Are you implying science fiction writers cannot be "real scientists"?

Though I agree with your sensationalist comment.


Nope, that is not what I said or implied at all. However science fiction writers are writing just that - fiction, it should not be taken as a reliable source for scientific knowledge. Most of my colleagues and other scientists I know agree that the Drake Equation is pretty useless given the vagueness and pointlessness of many of the variables involved (not to mention that it has not been tested, for obvious reasons, and no real mathematical derivations were done to reach the result).

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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.


Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Haloroach

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Right now, with 1 out of 8 planets in the solar system known to harbor life, we only have a single point of data and cannot draw many conclusions or inferences from it.

If however, life that is definitively shown to be non-terran and/or completely unrelated to Terran life (based on genetics or even using something other than DNA to replicate and carry information) within our solar system? Then the data shows (at least with a very small sample) that life has occurred independently on more than 1 location in this system alone?

That DRAMATICALLY influences two factors in the Drake Equation, both Ne and Fl.


The Drake Equation is pretty much useless, except for science fiction writers. The variables themselves within the equation should give multiple reasons why it's uselessness is self-explanatory. It is for sensationalists (especially exaggerated by the media) not real scientists such as astrobiologists and the like.


Are you implying science fiction writers cannot be "real scientists"?

Though I agree with your sensationalist comment.


Nope, that is not what I said or implied at all. However science fiction writers are writing just that - fiction, it should not be taken as a reliable source for scientific knowledge. Most of my colleagues and other scientists I know agree that the Drake Equation is pretty useless given the vagueness and pointlessness of many of the variables involved (not to mention that it has not been tested, for obvious reasons, and no real mathematical derivations were done to reach the result).


My mistake then. I'm just not myself today. I apologize.

  • 11.30.2012 3:40 PM PDT
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"The hero is the one who kindles a great light in the world, who sets up blazing torches in the dark streets of life for men to see by.
The saint is the man who walks through the dark paths of the world, himself a light."
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What happened to that thing they found a few weeks ago? They said it was of Martian origin and wasn't a rock.


Did anymore details come of this?

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