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Subject: People are misinformed, illegal immigrants aren't taking your jobs

Hdawger, the wizard of the mountains.

If we replace them with robots we still won't have to do the jobs, and we won't have to pay the robots. (Actually lots of big company farms have done this already).

  • 12.01.2012 5:57 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

No, but legal immigrants are taking the jobs I want.

  • 12.01.2012 5:58 PM PDT

I wouldn't say all them are getting bad jobs cause two out of the three blood tests I got were taken by a Filipino nurse. And they still take the fast food jobs from the high school students who are looking for a first job.

  • 12.01.2012 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: SHOTTY SNIP3R
I wouldn't say all them are getting bad jobs cause two out of the three blood tests I got were taken by a Filipino nurse. And they still take the fast food jobs from the high school students who are looking for a first job.


Do you have proof she was illegal? Or are you just assuming because she was Filipino?

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  • 12.01.2012 6:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: SHOTTY SNIP3R
I wouldn't say all them are getting bad jobs cause two out of the three blood tests I got were taken by a Filipino nurse. And they still take the fast food jobs from the high school students who are looking for a first job.


Do you have proof she was illegal? Or are you just assuming because she was Filipino?


Yo man, dat dawg is racist yo!

  • 12.01.2012 6:04 PM PDT

Speaking for America, I "hate" those who don't want to integrate (which is not all of them). These people only want to live here to support their families in mexico, they do not want to become a part of our country and learn our language and our culture, unlike those who moved here previously. I have nothing wrong with those who are legal citizens and want to become part of our society much like my ancestors who moved to America in the 19th century.

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  • 12.01.2012 6:16 PM PDT
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the unemployment rate is at 8% right now. I'm sure you could find someone who would do those "unwanted" jobs. Illegal immigrants need to be shipped out

  • 12.01.2012 6:24 PM PDT

*scratches nuts*

You have to look at it from an employers perspective. They're going to hire the person that is willing to do the most work for the least amount of pay and will stay with the company as long as possible.

Say you're the manager of a fast food restaurant, and you had to choose between hiring a fresh out of school teenager who most likely won't put much effort into the job and will leave within a year, or an illegal immigrant that will work his ass off without complaining and will most likely stay on for a couple of years. If you have any business sense at all you're going to pick the immigrant every time.

  • 12.01.2012 6:25 PM PDT
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But..but...

  • 12.01.2012 6:27 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.

You fail to realize that most people don't think the illegals are "taking our jerbs". What most people care about is the fact that they are able to live here, work here, use government resources, and yet not pay taxes. That is the problem.

  • 12.01.2012 6:31 PM PDT
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There are no unwanted jobs.

Illegals displace citizens for low-skill jobs because employers can pay them below minimum wage, something they can't do to legal citizens and immigrants. It's not a matter of them doing "jobs nobody else will," it's a matter of economics.

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Of course they aren't becoming doctors and lawyers. And to say they are doing our jobs better is completely wrong. Some may work harder but a lot of them are lazy and don't expect to work much. My dad is a warehouse manager at a local injection molding company and they have hired illegals by accident before and my dad has told me how stupid and lazy they are on the job. Also waiting outside home depot isn't an actual job you moron.

I am a high school graduate with no college education so illegals steal manual labor jobs that myself and other actual citizens of this country could have. Not to mention they leech off of other citizens with welfare and other services.

  • 12.01.2012 6:36 PM PDT

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But... They TOOK MY JAWB

  • 12.01.2012 6:38 PM PDT

Roll tide

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See the rapist.
I don't like rap.

*facepalm*

Yes but they're using public services without paying taxes like we do.

  • 12.01.2012 6:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Aang the Avatar
"Illegal immigrants are taking our jobs!" is a regurgitated falsehood floating around these days. They aren't taking your jobs; they're taking the jobs you don't want and doing them better and cheaper than you could do them.

Do you want to pick strawberries in the heat of the summer? I doubt it.
Do you want to wait outside Home Depot for some cheap day labor? Highly unlikely.

Illegals aren't becoming doctors, lawyers, and politicians.
Illegals aren't becoming teachers, cops, and firemen.
Illegals aren't becoming accountants or working in HR.

They're doing the jobs you don't want, so you can aspire to bigger, better things.

What are your thoughts on illegal immigrants?


That's just insulting to immigrants by insinuating that they can't occupy white-collar occupations. Also, second and third generation immigrants are likely to become more 'educated' according to your narrow definition and take the jobs 'reserved for white Americans.'

  • 12.01.2012 6:39 PM PDT
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Yup.


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Posted by: Aang the Avatar
"Illegal immigrants are taking our jobs!" is a regurgitated falsehood floating around these days. They aren't taking your jobs; they're taking the jobs you don't want and doing them better and cheaper than you could do them.

Do you want to pick strawberries in the heat of the summer? I doubt it.
Do you want to wait outside Home Depot for some cheap day labor? Highly unlikely.

Illegals aren't becoming doctors, lawyers, and politicians.
Illegals aren't becoming teachers, cops, and firemen.
Illegals aren't becoming accountants or working in HR.

They're doing the jobs you don't want, so you can aspire to bigger, better things.

What are your thoughts on illegal immigrants?


That's just insulting to immigrants by insinuating that they can't occupy white-collar occupations. Also, second and third generation immigrants are likely to become more 'educated' according to your narrow definition and take the jobs 'reserved for white Americans.'


All you have is indicated by saying this is that illegals are a problem and need to be dealt with.

  • 12.01.2012 6:48 PM PDT


Posted by: FloodPsychologis
They are poverty, it's no wonder the border towns have such a high unemployment rate Here. And I'm sure many Americans would be willing to do those jobs, it is just a falsehood that white Americans are unwilling. Our economy is not in a good shape, no sane person would think we should be letting in more poor uneducated people.

Someone needs to round them up and send them back where they belong.


If it is such a falsehood, why does no one go work on these farms?

  • 12.01.2012 6:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Garland
There are no unwanted jobs.

Illegals displace citizens for low-skill jobs because employers can pay them below minimum wage, something they can't do to legal citizens and immigrants. It's not a matter of them doing "jobs nobody else will," it's a matter of economics.


Most farmers don't pay by the hour, they pay for every unit of food picked.

Again, if citizens were so willing to do these jobs, then why is it that when farmers put out requests, none show up?

  • 12.01.2012 6:50 PM PDT


Posted by: XxxBanexxX
Speaking for America, I "hate" those who don't want to integrate (which is not all of them). These people only want to live here to support their families in mexico, they do not want to become a part of our country and learn our language and our culture, unlike those who moved here previously. I have nothing wrong with those who are legal citizens and want to become part of our society much like my ancestors who moved to America in the 19th century.

By that logic, The British and French who came to the Americans should have integrated into aboriginal culture.

  • 12.01.2012 6:53 PM PDT

ooga booga boooh


Posted by: Garland
It's not a matter of them doing "jobs nobody else will," it's a matter of economics.


This sums up the ideas.

You want to know why Canada has public health and America does not? Consider how many of its citizens are not paying in to income taxes, property taxes and the such. It's about being "fair", in a sense.

  • 12.01.2012 6:55 PM PDT
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Yup.


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Posted by: FloodPsychologis
They are poverty, it's no wonder the border towns have such a high unemployment rate Here. And I'm sure many Americans would be willing to do those jobs, it is just a falsehood that white Americans are unwilling. Our economy is not in a good shape, no sane person would think we should be letting in more poor uneducated people.

Someone needs to round them up and send them back where they belong.


If it is such a falsehood, why does no one go work on these farms?


Do you think poor white folk want to waste their time going "Yippee look at me, I'm working minimum wage, look at me internet!" The argument that white folk don't want to do minimum wage jobs is almost never presented with statistics or facts, merely thoughts and opinions.

5% of Whites work at minimum wage or less, 6% of blacks do so and 3% of Asians. Hispanics work 5% also, but that is only of reported data. Here.

If illegals weren't in the country, whites would be able to get these jobs and employers wouldn't be able to hire these illegals in place of whites.

  • 12.01.2012 6:55 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: General Noobus
You have to look at it from an employers perspective. They're going to hire the person that is willing to do the most work for the least amount of pay and will stay with the company as long as possible.


Basically what I was going to say.

  • 12.01.2012 6:56 PM PDT

If you can't trust yourself, then don't trust anyone.

Relevant.

  • 12.01.2012 6:57 PM PDT