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Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: lightlamp2
Why do you think there will be a crisis? All those country's are free to leave the commonwealth also

I don't think you understand what a constitutional crisis would be. It doesn't mean rioting in the streets and people losing their minds. Let's use the example of Canada. The Queen is Head of State. Explain to Canadians what that means and they're uncomfortable with the powers the British monarch actually has. When Elizabeth's successor ascends to the throne that discussion is going to enter the public sphere. When that happens the Canadian constitution is going to come into question. That means a crisis over the constitution. That is a big -blam!- deal to put it lightly. For Americans imagine what it would mean for government to remove the presidency. The entire system of government is being rewritten. That's the possibility some countries are facing when the Queen eventually passes away.
Im pretty sure its a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one. The Queen has almost zero power. She does what ever the government wants her to. She is purely ceremonial

  • 12.03.2012 2:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kenny Pwns2
Don't know if this has been addressed, but studies have shown that the Royal Family brings in more money through tourism than they cost to live the way they do, so there's that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw
Was it this video?

[Edited on 12.03.2012 2:03 PM PST]

  • 12.03.2012 2:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2
Im pretty sure its a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one. The Queen has almost zero power. She does what ever the government wants her to. She is purely ceremonial

Well you'd best actually look at the constitutions of these countries because you're very wrong. It appears ceremonial because it's rare for the monarch to actually enact their powers. The actual powers the monarch has in a constitutional monarchy look pretty dictatorial.

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Posted by: Vgnut117


Australia had a referendum on it (and I think maybe Canada did as well though potentially I'm wrong here) and voted to keep the British Monarchy as Head of State. For the most part those nations that recognise the Monarchy as Head of State, Jamaica excluded, appear to be happy to continue to do so.

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Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: lightlamp2
Im pretty sure its a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one. The Queen has almost zero power. She does what ever the government wants her to. She is purely ceremonial

Well you'd best actually look at the constitutions of these countries because you're very wrong. It appears ceremonial because it's rare for the monarch to actually enact their powers. The actual powers the monarch has in a constitutional monarchy look pretty dictatorial.
I will admit i haven't looked at the constitutions. But if this is true then obviously the Queen does not use these powers and it would be highly unlikely any future Monarch would become some dictator.I know in the UK all laws have to be signed off by her and she has the power to dissolve parliament. But she always follows the governments advice

  • 12.03.2012 2:10 PM PDT


Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: lightlamp2
Im pretty sure its a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one. The Queen has almost zero power. She does what ever the government wants her to. She is purely ceremonial

Well you'd best actually look at the constitutions of these countries because you're very wrong. It appears ceremonial because it's rare for the monarch to actually enact their powers. The actual powers the monarch has in a constitutional monarchy look pretty dictatorial.
I will admit i haven't looked at the constitutions. But if this is true then obviously the Queen does not use these powers and it would be highly unlikely any future Monarch would become some dictator.I know in the UK all laws have to be signed off by her and she has the power to dissolve parliament. But she always follows the governments advice


The royal family is just a tourist icon these days, heck, I don't even know why American care our Royal family.

  • 12.03.2012 2:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Empty Carecup

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: lightlamp2
Im pretty sure its a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one. The Queen has almost zero power. She does what ever the government wants her to. She is purely ceremonial

Well you'd best actually look at the constitutions of these countries because you're very wrong. It appears ceremonial because it's rare for the monarch to actually enact their powers. The actual powers the monarch has in a constitutional monarchy look pretty dictatorial.
I will admit i haven't looked at the constitutions. But if this is true then obviously the Queen does not use these powers and it would be highly unlikely any future Monarch would become some dictator.I know in the UK all laws have to be signed off by her and she has the power to dissolve parliament. But she always follows the governments advice


The royal family is just a tourist icon these days, heck, I don't even know why American care our Royal family.
Yep and that's what they do best.They bring in tourism.

  • 12.03.2012 2:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2
Posted by: Kenny Pwns2
Don't know if this has been addressed, but studies have shown that the Royal Family brings in more money through tourism than they cost to live the way they do, so there's that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw
Was it this video?
I've heard it several places, but yes that's what I was referring to.

  • 12.03.2012 2:28 PM PDT

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  • 12.03.2012 2:30 PM PDT

If she's about 12 weeks gone, that'll mean the baby is due for June, which means an extra day or two off. Sweet.

Other than that, empty care cup \_/

  • 12.03.2012 2:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: deltahalo UK
Australia had a referendum on it (and I think maybe Canada did as well though potentially I'm wrong here) and voted to keep the British Monarchy as Head of State. For the most part those nations that recognise the Monarchy as Head of State, Jamaica excluded, appear to be happy to continue to do so.

Canada never did. And the problem with the Australian one was that no real alternative was given to what would be in place of the monarchy.

And remember what I've been saying. There won't be a big deal as long as Elizabeth II rules. Once she dies though and you tell people Charles is their head of state and what that means you're going to see people having an issue.

  • 12.03.2012 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2
I will admit i haven't looked at the constitutions. But if this is true then obviously the Queen does not use these powers and it would be highly unlikely any future Monarch would become some dictator.I know in the UK all laws have to be signed off by her and she has the power to dissolve parliament. But she always follows the governments advice

To avoid a constitutional crisis. Canada came close to one in 2008. The Liberals and NDP were to form a coalition government. The Conservatives demanded the Governor General, representative of the Queen, to prorogue parliament so he could campaign against it. Prime Minister Harper did it again to avoid opposition inquests into another controversy. In both cases Harper was ready to take these requests to the Queen.

It's a serious serious issue I don't think you fully appreciate. British monarchs come awfully close at times to interfering with foreign politics. The monarch is not just ceremonial like you think.

Also it creates a scenario in these countries where the Prime Minister can easily abuse power. You know how Americans incorrectly assume the President has all this power to do whatever? That's actually the case for the Prime Minister of Canada at times.

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  • 12.03.2012 3:03 PM PDT

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good for them

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Posted by: BF117HALO
And their baby is more special than any other baby because?

Because Britain still has a constitutional monarchy; it means that despite the fact that these people have no power, they're still revered because their ancestors did. It's a load of bull-blam!- if you ask me.

  • 12.03.2012 3:09 PM PDT

ooga booga boooh

congrats. i hope they have a healthy child/children.
plot twist: conjoined twins.

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Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: lightlamp2
I will admit i haven't looked at the constitutions. But if this is true then obviously the Queen does not use these powers and it would be highly unlikely any future Monarch would become some dictator.I know in the UK all laws have to be signed off by her and she has the power to dissolve parliament. But she always follows the governments advice

To avoid a constitutional crisis. Canada came close to one in 2008. The Liberals and NDP were to form a coalition government. The Conservatives demanded the Governor General, representative of the Queen, to prorogue parliament so he could campaign against it. Prime Minister Harper did it again to avoid opposition inquests into another controversy. In both cases Harper was ready to take these requests to the Queen.

It's a serious serious issue I don't think you fully appreciate. British monarchs come awfully close at times to interfering with foreign politics. The monarch is not just ceremonial like you think.
Hmm well in the UK we obviously don't have a governor general and in 2010 when we had a hung parliament it was up to the parties to sort it out and form a coalition without the interference of the Monarch. But i am speaking about the UK.I don't live in Canada so maybe you guys have a different situation there.

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Posted by: jacob crawford
congrats. i hope they have a healthy child/children.
plot twist: conjoined twins.


Conjoined twins would be the greatest monarchy of all time.

I would literally pay to see them fight each other for the crown.

  • 12.03.2012 3:17 PM PDT


Posted by: SafariTK
I don't believe I could possibly care less about the royals to be entirely honest with you.

Ever since Kate began showing up on the news I honestly did not care about a single thing that happened relating to her.

  • 12.03.2012 3:18 PM PDT


Posted by: TwistedDippy666
Our future king

Nope.

  • 12.03.2012 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: jacob crawford
plot twist: conjoined twins.

Now THAT would be amusing

  • 12.03.2012 3:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2
Hmm well in the UK we obviously don't have a governor general and in 2010 when we had a hung parliament it was up to the parties to sort it out and form a coalition without the interference of the Monarch. But i am speaking about the UK. But alas I don't live in Canada so maybe you guys have a different situation there.

There's nothing controversial about a coalition government in the UK because they're so common throughout Europe. Canada however, even though having a near identical system of government to the UK, because of their proximity to the US (I believe) sees Canadian government through the lens of American politics. So in 2008 the Prime Minister was able to get the representative of the Queen who is not an elected figure to prorogue parliament giving him time to advertise the coalition as a coup d'état. It worked.

Political scientists across the country called it an abuse of power. The system allows for this.

And it's also a matter of principle. Canadians are squeamish whenever they're reminded of the actual role. No one is comfortable swearing allegiance to the monarch as new Canadians have to. Like I said the Queen is so iconic because of her longevity that the institution won't wilt under her. But tell Canadians or Aussies that they'll be swearing an allegiance to King Charles their new head of state with the power to prorogue parliament and they're going to rebel against the institution. Maybe not in the UK but definently in foreign nations.

  • 12.03.2012 3:20 PM PDT