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Subject: APA says being transgender is no longer a mental disorder

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I'll bring the tritium laser cutters if you bring the beer!

Funny story.

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
An Asian person will never be European, never in a thousand millennia.
Lol, I didn't know backwards racists like you still existed.

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Does this mean I can finally date a mtf without being called a weirdo?

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Yup.


Posted by: monitor 16807
Posted by: FloodPsychologis
An Asian person will never be European, never in a thousand millennia.
Lol, I didn't know backwards racists like you still existed.


How is that racist? Asians are Asians, Europeans are Europeans, there is nothing wrong with that.

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Bungie doesn't like French on their site.

+1 APA

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Posted by: Gerbur
Does this mean I can finally date a mtf without being called a weirdo?


Exactly.

  • 12.03.2012 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Murcielago00
A. I fail to see how gender and sex are independent, besides that of the psychological community saying they are.
Well psychologists are the ones with doctorates in studying the human mind.

Sex is merely biology. It simply refers to your reproductive organs. Gender, however, is the identity of being either masculine or feminine, of which is socially constructed primarily.

  • 12.03.2012 6:47 PM PDT

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Because trans* individuals are still discriminated against in the military, and it doesn't get attention because people largely stopped caring after DADT was repealed.

I think a trans would have some physiological problems in the military.
Only if the people serving alongside them are bigots, but that's a piss-poor reason to exclude them.

Military->masculinity->men->muscles->rough and tough->violence->testosterone

Yeah, there's gonna be some of that.


...you realize that they take exogenous testosterone, right? And that they typically have higher levels to begin with than typical females...

If we are talking F2M

That's not the point. I'm just saying that people who join the military are usually rough and tough characters. You know, guys with big muscles and whatnot. They probably wouldn't tolerate anyone ghey, let alone a transgender.

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Posted by: Murcielago00
A. I fail to see how gender and sex are independent, besides that of the psychological community saying they are.
Well psychologists are the ones with doctorates in studying the human mind.

Sex is merely biology. It simply refers to your reproductive organs. Gender, however, is the identity of being either masculine or feminine, of which is socially constructed primarily.

Actually, the word gender comes from the Latin word genus. We use the word genetics to talk about someone's genes. Gender is talking specifically about the biological attributes of someone.

Genus=genes=gender

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That's not the point. I'm just saying that people who join the military are usually rough and tough characters. You know, guys with big muscles and whatnot. They probably wouldn't tolerate anyone ghey, let alone a transgender.


You would be surprised how masculin transgender(and -blam!-) can be...

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Posted by: Gerbur
Does this mean I can finally date a mtf without being called a weirdo?


Exactly.

Well, looks like I'm going hunting.

My desire of dating a qt3.14 trap will be fulfilled.

  • 12.03.2012 6:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: petitminou

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That's not the point. I'm just saying that people who join the military are usually rough and tough characters. You know, guys with big muscles and whatnot. They probably wouldn't tolerate anyone ghey, let alone a transgender.


You would be surprised how masculin transgender(and -blam!-) can be...

My point is being missed apparently.

If a group of soldiers finds out that one of their comrades isn't really a man or a woman, or that one of them likes men, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be received very well.

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Yup.


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Posted by: petitminou

Posted by: Gerbur
Does this mean I can finally date a mtf without being called a weirdo?


Exactly.

Well, looks like I'm going hunting.

My desire of dating a qt3.14 trap will be fulfilled.


>2012
>not wanting a qt National Socialist gf

ISHYGDDT

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Posted by: Locke357

Posted by: Murcielago00
A. I fail to see how gender and sex are independent, besides that of the psychological community saying they are.
Well psychologists are the ones with doctorates in studying the human mind.

Sex is merely biology. It simply refers to your reproductive organs. Gender, however, is the identity of being either masculine or feminine, of which is socially constructed primarily.


Hmmm. While I can't argue with the credentials of psychologists, that doesn't necessarily mean what they say is true or fact.

Freudian psychology comes to mind. It was a big thing in its heyday (if I remember correctly) but seems to be looked at now rather derisively now as a bunk field of psychology that doesn't seem to be able to produce concrete results. To my knowledge.

  • 12.03.2012 6:53 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

  • 12.03.2012 6:56 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

Posted by: AgentCOP1
If a group of soldiers finds out that one of their comrades isn't really a man or a woman, or that one of them likes men, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be received very well.

lolwat

Why would you even care how it's received, it's the goddamn military, if you want to defend your country, you shouldn't be excluded because of the intolerant.

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Posted by: Murcielago00
A. I fail to see how gender and sex are independent, besides that of the psychological community saying they are.
Well psychologists are the ones with doctorates in studying the human mind.

Sex is merely biology. It simply refers to your reproductive organs. Gender, however, is the identity of being either masculine or feminine, of which is socially constructed primarily.


Hmmm. While I can't argue with the credentials of psychologists, that doesn't necessarily mean what they say is true or fact.

Freudian psychology comes to mind. It was a big thing in its heyday (if I remember correctly) but seems to be looked at now rather derisively now as a bunk field of psychology that doesn't seem to be able to produce concrete results. To my knowledge.


don't see what's so wrong about differentiating between genitalia+genes versus behaviour and societal roles

=/

Those are relatively new definitions typically used when discussing anatomical versus psychological.

If you don't want to use these connotative definitions, then don't.

  • 12.03.2012 6:58 PM PDT


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That's not the point. I'm just saying that people who join the military are usually rough and tough characters. You know, guys with big muscles and whatnot. They probably wouldn't tolerate anyone ghey, let alone a transgender.


You would be surprised how masculin transgender(and -blam!-) can be...

My point is being missed apparently.

If a group of soldiers finds out that one of their comrades isn't really a man or a woman, or that one of them likes men, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be received very well.


Or they wouldn't give a -blam!-, because their opinions about that person have already been decided.

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I don't need no stinking signature!


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Posted by: Locke357

Posted by: Murcielago00
A. I fail to see how gender and sex are independent, besides that of the psychological community saying they are.
Well psychologists are the ones with doctorates in studying the human mind.

Sex is merely biology. It simply refers to your reproductive organs. Gender, however, is the identity of being either masculine or feminine, of which is socially constructed primarily.

Actually, the word gender comes from the Latin word genus. We use the word genetics to talk about someone's genes. Gender is talking specifically about the biological attributes of someone.

Genus=genes=gender


Your joking right? Just because two words have a common latin root doesn't mean they have the same meaning. Besides, you got the meaning of the root completely backwards, genus simply means: "a class, order, or type"

Both genes and gender are separated into types, hence the use of the root, but gender is pretty much exclusively used to describe societal roles in various cultures, not biology.

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  • 12.03.2012 7:00 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

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Posted by: AgentCOP1
They probably wouldn't tolerate anyone ghey, let alone a transgender.

Yes they would, and you're evading the filter.

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No programmer can pick up a TV remote without thinking what it would take to add a stun gun. [...] Their motto is 'if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet

nice, they are only about infinity years late.

As we are starting to see. Republicans are quickly becoming obsolete and outdated.

  • 12.03.2012 7:02 PM PDT

APA = Acolyte Protection Agency?

  • 12.03.2012 7:10 PM PDT


Posted by: petitminou

Posted by: Gerbur
Does this mean I can finally date a mtf without being called a weirdo?


Exactly.

Not really
This isn't really going to change the way people think guys.

  • 12.03.2012 7:10 PM PDT