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Subject: 3-D printed gun fires 6 shots - then falls apart
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Maybe they should stick to paintball guns for now.

  • 12.04.2012 8:11 AM PDT


Posted by: CND AAA Beef
Maybe they should stick to paintball guns for now.

lol, could be just as dangerous. There's a lot of pressure in a CO2 tank.

  • 12.04.2012 8:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: ABotelho

Posted by: CND AAA Beef
Maybe they should stick to paintball guns for now.

lol, could be just as dangerous. There's a lot of pressure in a CO2 tank.
But at least they won't have the ATF on their ass.

Also, I wasn't thinking of printing the gas tank out too. That would blow up on the first shot! But the rest of the marker could probably be made, except for a few high stress parts.

  • 12.04.2012 8:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: ABotelho

Posted by: CND AAA Beef
Maybe they should stick to paintball guns for now.

lol, could be just as dangerous. There's a lot of pressure in a CO2 tank.

Probably more dangerous. Putting in a pressurized CO2 tank in the gun basically makes it a small bomb. So if it fails in the CO2 tank then the it'll turn into flying plastic shrapnel

  • 12.04.2012 8:19 AM PDT
Subject: 3-D printed gun fires 6 shots; falls apart + Wiki Weapon?

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Posted by: BACE
I've used 3D printers before while using CAD, parts take like 6-24 hours to make, tbh I'm surprised no one has tried this until now, but cool none the less
They've actually been working on this for a while, but the main problem was the cost of a 3D printer.


Anyways, OP, this shows that something important here. For what I saw of that gun, the lower receiver was plastic and the rest was metal parts that are used in most guns. This is important because the lower for that design isn't a stress bearing part of the gun, which means it will be a very long time before you can find printable, quality weapons.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 8:56 AM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 8:53 AM PDT

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I hate article titles like this, they're very misleading. The "gun" that's been 3D printed is not a gun, but a legal gun. The only thing printed was the plastic lower receiver, which is the legal definition of a "gun".

For this to actually be used as a weapon would require a metal barrel and upper receiver, which cannot be 3D printed.

As far as the "gun control" side of things go, people have been able to manufacture their own weapons for a long time with CNC machines, which can make metal parts.

  • 12.04.2012 9:02 AM PDT
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Looks like someone needs to source some higher-quality materials and construction methods.

  • 12.04.2012 9:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: EnragedElite67
"The problem with quotes on the internet is 95% are made up." - Socrates

One person actually printed a fully functional AR-15 lower. Which ,to the ATF, is legally the firearm.

It didn't fall apart after 6 rounds, in fact I think the guy put 200 rounds through it.

So that leads me to believe that this guys who had it break after 6 shots doesn't know what he is doing.

  • 12.04.2012 9:03 AM PDT
Subject: 3-D printed gun fires 6 shots; falls apart + Wiki Weapon?

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Posted by: westpointusma15

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Six shots is all you need.

Then your gun breaks apart and you can easily hide the evidence.

Not really, since the gun will still be found really easily even if it is in 2 pieces.

I do agree though, that even if they break after a few shots, it's a very dangerous idea that anyone can create a unlicensed and "invisible" firearm with a 3D printer in the future.
Look up 80% receiver.

  • 12.04.2012 9:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: westpointusma15

Posted by: A Good Troll
Six shots is all you need.

Then your gun breaks apart and you can easily hide the evidence.

Not really, since the gun will still be found really easily even if it is in 2 pieces.

I do agree though, that even if they break after a few shots, it's a very dangerous idea that anyone can create a unlicensed and "invisible" firearm with a 3D printer in the future.
Look up 80% receiver.


If I had the tooling, I'd mill one for my self. Damn things are cheap. Cheaper then a stripped lower which already is dirt cheap.


What's a block of aluminum in the shape of an AR-15 lower going for, 40 bucks or so? Instead of the 80 to 120 for a stripped lower.

  • 12.04.2012 9:06 AM PDT
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Six shots is all you need.

  • 12.04.2012 9:12 AM PDT

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Unsurprising that 3D printers can't replicate the structural integrity of machine-produced firearms.
...yet
There's a reason why guns aren't made of plastic: they simply can't withstand the explosive force of their own firepower.


The lower receiver was the only plastic part, which there are plenty of guns that the majority is a plastic compound, except some of the integral parts, like say the G21 i CC.

  • 12.04.2012 9:14 AM PDT

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err...so having cheap and completely untraceable weapons is a good thing?

I'm having problems wrapping my head around why this is a good thing.

  • 12.04.2012 9:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
err...so having cheap and completely untraceable weapons is a good thing?

I'm having problems wrapping my head around why this is a good thing.
Weapons as they stand now are untraceable.

And 3d printers are very expensive.

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  • 12.04.2012 9:15 AM PDT
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I'm gonna be optimistic.

It didn't fall apart. It's a prototype Tediore.

  • 12.04.2012 9:35 AM PDT
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My CIS professor showed us the Wiki Weapon awhile ago. An impressive, but also scary idea.

  • 12.04.2012 9:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bryanesie
My CIS professor showed us the Wiki Weapon awhile ago. An impressive, but also scary idea.
Tell me, how many gangs have 3D printers to make one part of a gun?

  • 12.04.2012 9:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bryanesie
My CIS professor showed us the Wiki Weapon awhile ago. An impressive, but also scary idea.
Tell me, how many gangs have 3D printers to make one part of a gun?
Well, given that many gangs have several thousand dollars in drug money at any given time, it would not be all that hard for them to get.

In 1994, when I was in the Army, there was a massive problem with gang members joining up to be armorers. They were sending their people in to learn how to fix and maintain guns, so they wouldn't have to go to a legitimate repair shop.

I wish I was kidding about this. So, is it really that much of a stretch that gangs today would buy a computer and one of these printers to make untraceable guns?

  • 12.04.2012 10:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bryanesie
My CIS professor showed us the Wiki Weapon awhile ago. An impressive, but also scary idea.
Tell me, how many gangs have 3D printers to make one part of a gun?
If that's the only situation you can apply this to than you're missing the broader point that 3D printing, as well as a Wiki Weapon represent for future manufacturing, and the ability to print whatever you need.

In fact the ability to just print out a gun that works should be a fearsome enough idea in itself. But basically when you couple 3D printing with the ability to create or simply retrieve a design from someone or the internet you're looking at a profound change in security, manufacturing, economics even.

Why go to the home improvement store to get some tools when I can just get a 3D printer that can print me out a wrench or whatever else I need. What's to stop a terrorist organization from simply getting a hold of a 3D printer, a Wiki Weapon design, and using it to pull 9/11 again or any other terrorist act?

Now you were also saying how no one has access to 3D printers. However if you look at Moore's law given enough time 3D printers will become readily available to the public for very low cost. So in my opinion it's great reason for concern.

  • 12.04.2012 10:10 AM PDT
Subject: 3-D printed gun fires 6 shots - then falls apart

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Unsurprising that 3D printers can't replicate the structural integrity of machine-produced firearms.
...yet
There's a reason why guns aren't made of plastic: they simply can't withstand the explosive force of their own firepower.

Who says we have to stick to plastic?

  • 12.04.2012 10:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Rampant Tragedy
Posted by: LolWutBBQ
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Unsurprising that 3D printers can't replicate the structural integrity of machine-produced firearms.
...yet
There's a reason why guns aren't made of plastic: they simply can't withstand the explosive force of their own firepower.

Come on. You actually think 3-D printers will stay using plastics in the future?? Im positive that some type of metal will be used with 3D printers in the future.

  • 12.04.2012 10:14 AM PDT
Subject: 3-D printed gun fires 6 shots; falls apart + Wiki Weapon?

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Posted by: Bryanesie
If that's the only situation you can apply this to than you're missing the broader point that 3D printing, as well as a Wiki Weapon represent for future manufacturing, and the ability to print whatever you need.

In fact the ability to just print out a gun that works should be a fearsome enough idea in itself. But basically when you couple 3D printing with the ability to create or simply retrieve a design from someone or the internet you're looking at a profound change in security, manufacturing, economics even.

Why go to the home improvement store to get some tools when I can just get a 3D printer that can print me out a wrench or whatever else I need. What's to stop a terrorist organization from simply getting a hold of a 3D printer, a Wiki Weapon design, and using it to pull 9/11 again or any other terrorist act?

Now you were also saying how no one has access to 3D printers. However if you look at Moore's law given enough time 3D printers will become readily available to the public for very low cost. So in my opinion it's great reason for concern.
Ok, I concede, but as of now, it's easier to get a real gun illegally, plus there is still the need of specific parts needed to be made of metals (barrels, actions) for it to not blow up in your face.

  • 12.04.2012 10:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: Distant Dawn
I never understood 3D printing.
Wizardry and Magic.

  • 12.04.2012 10:29 AM PDT

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