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Subject: No one should hate Tim Tebow

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I like how you made a thread about Ponder, but disguised it as a Tebow thread to garner more views.

Pay attention, folks, there's a reason this guy's Mythic. :-P


At least someone else see it. All the OP does is cleverly place words to disguise the simple minded of his flame bait threads.

  • 12.04.2012 8:23 AM PDT

Maybe if TEBOWSPN didn't go nuts over every little story about him he wouldn't be getting so much hate. Skip Bayless-Tebow certainly doesn't help matters with his blind praise every day on 1st Take regardless of the topic on hand. Ponder might be bad but be careful what you wish for as the major knock on Tebow is he can't complete a forward pass either. Personally as a Bears fan I'd be just fine with Minnesota having Tebow lol good luck with that.

  • 12.04.2012 8:32 AM PDT

How can you hate on Ponder?

I'd take Ponder over Tebow in a second and Im a huge Tebow fan.

Ponder has the potential to be good. Its a shame Percy is as fragile as glass and his other recievers blow.

  • 12.04.2012 8:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

It's football, people are going to hate everyone who is not on their team. I'm a Patriots fan which instantly gets me hate.

So come at me.

  • 12.04.2012 9:24 AM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills
It's football, people are going to hate everyone who is not on their team. .


What?

  • 12.04.2012 9:27 AM PDT
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Your 'beliefs' mean less than dick to me.

I don't hate Tebow, I hate the people who always talk about him like he's actually you know, good.

  • 12.04.2012 9:28 AM PDT


Posted by: MrR46
I don't hate Tebow, I hate the people who always talk about him like he's actually you know, good.


Uh but he is good.

What matters in the nfl? Wins

  • 12.04.2012 9:29 AM PDT
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Your 'beliefs' mean less than dick to me.

Tebow's trash. Who keeps carrying Tebow to those wins? The defense. Von Miller better have lip imprints all over his meat seat after what he did for Tebow last year.

  • 12.04.2012 9:31 AM PDT


Posted by: MrR46
Tebow's trash. Who keeps carrying Tebow to those wins? The defense. Von Miller better have lip imprints all over his meat seat after what he did for Tebow last year.


Whys that matter? The defense carried Alex Smith to an NFC championship. It carried Trent Dilfer to a superbowl win.

Its embarrassing that Sanchez has been starting over Tebow this year. Sanchez is a joke.

Tebow has as many playoff wins as the all time cowboys touchdown leader....

  • 12.04.2012 9:34 AM PDT

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  • 12.04.2012 9:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Whys that matter? The defense carried Alex Smith to an NFC championship. It carried Trent Dilfer to a superbowl win.

Its embarrassing that Sanchez has been starting over Tebow this year. Sanchez is a joke.

Tebow has as many playoff wins as the all time cowboys touchdown leader....

How exactly does putting up -blam!- stats and being carried by your defense make you a good QB?

  • 12.04.2012 9:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Posted by: Viper Skills
It's football, people are going to hate everyone who is not on their team. .


What?


How is this confusing?

  • 12.04.2012 9:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
How can you hate on Ponder?

I'd take Ponder over Tebow in a second and Im a huge Tebow fan.

Ponder has the potential to be good. Its a shame Percy is as fragile as glass and his other recievers blow.

Ponder hasn't even come close to throwing a good ball to an open receiver in weeks. If they drop it, that is on them, but it is pretty obvious Ponder has no ability to get it to them in the first place. I could give him a break if he showed potential, but he has done nothing aside from getting progressively worse since his one quality game against San Fran.

  • 12.04.2012 9:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: MrR46
How exactly does putting up -blam!- stats and being carried by your defense make you a good QB?


Carried by a defense that was 1-4 before he became the starter?

  • 12.04.2012 9:38 AM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Whys that matter? The defense carried Alex Smith to an NFC championship. It carried Trent Dilfer to a superbowl win.

Its embarrassing that Sanchez has been starting over Tebow this year. Sanchez is a joke.

Tebow has as many playoff wins as the all time cowboys touchdown leader....

How exactly does putting up -blam!- stats and being carried by your defense make you a good QB?


Stats dont matter.
Wins matter.

Tebow, despite putting up pretty bad stats, still had many 4th quarter comebacks. And he had TRASH on offense to work with.

Listen, Im not saying Tebow is the next coming of Brady or Peyton. I've even said in this thread that I'd take Ponder over him. But Tebow's record speaks for itself.

  • 12.04.2012 9:40 AM PDT

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As a 49ers fan, I see both sides of the spectrum for our QBs.

Some people love Alex Smith, some hate him.
Some love Colin Kaepernick, others don't.

Personally, I don't think Tebow will ever become an elite QB, but he can be good. sometimes.

  • 12.04.2012 9:41 AM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV
How can you hate on Ponder?

I'd take Ponder over Tebow in a second and Im a huge Tebow fan.

Ponder has the potential to be good. Its a shame Percy is as fragile as glass and his other recievers blow.

Ponder hasn't even come close to throwing a good ball to an open receiver in weeks. If they drop it, that is on them, but it is pretty obvious Ponder has no ability to get it to them in the first place. I could give him a break if he showed potential, but he has done nothing aside from getting progressively worse since his one quality game against San Fran.


What is he suppose to do with the 4th string Wideouts around him?

Ponder has potential. Its his second year. His TD-INT ratio isnt bad. Hes had 2 bad games. One at lambeau. and one aganist the great bears D.

Hes 6-6 this year with that garbage team....

  • 12.04.2012 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
I still see constant hatred for Tim Tebow, even though he doesn't play. People seem to be angry he is in the NFL at all. While I may agree with the sentiment that his sermons given in the media, and his praying on the field get old quick, I still think this hate is misguided. No one should question Tim Tebow's ability in a world where Christian Ponder is a starting QB. You think Tebow is bad? Just watch Ponder, I dare you. Minnesota fans would kill for a Tim Tebow. Anyone that can successfully throw a ball ten yards at least a third of the time.

So don't hate on Tebow, or Sanchez. It could always be worse, you could have Cristian Ponder starting for you. A quarterback that teams don't even have to bother with pass coverage, and can focus completely on Adrian Peterson, who will still put up 200 yards. With any other quarterback in the NFL, Peterson wins a ring. Ponder is the only one bad enough to make AP a losing player.
Christian Ponder is a lot better than Tebow. I can't even believe you tried to say he's worse considering the numbers he has managed to put up this year. He has more TD's and fewer picks than last year, and the Vikings are a run-first offensive team.

Tebow, on the other hand, has consistently sucked. You could make the argument that the Broncos were the only team that could make Tebow a winning player, since he played horrible in almost all the games he appeared in last year. He is taking up a roster spot for someone easily more deserving, and his ceiling is lower than where Ponder is now.

Ponder has 14 TD's and over 2,300 yards, is without Harvin, and you're trying to say that's worse than having Tebow?? Child, please.

Remember: Out of college, Tebow couldn't even take a 3-step drop....the most basic of QB techniques. Tim Tebow needed to be trained to take a 3-step drop. He can't read defenses when he's not in the shotgun. He's only good in the spread offense. There might be an offense out there that would work for him, but it's not in the NFL. Tim Tebow could be a successful Arena League QB based on what he is capable of.

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  • 12.04.2012 9:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Stats dont matter.
Wins matter.

Stats measure performance. Wins show you what team won the game without any insight into why.

Tebow, despite putting up pretty bad stats, still had many 4th quarter comebacks. And he had TRASH on offense to work with.
Oh, the clutch argument. Lol.

Listen, Im not saying Tebow is the next coming of Brady or Peyton. I've even said in this thread that I'd take Ponder over him. But Tebow's record speaks for itself.
His record is that he's a bad quarterback. A sub-50 completion percentage on the season is HORRIBLE. There were only two games where it was above 50. Why the hell should he credit for wins he didn't contribute positively to?

  • 12.04.2012 9:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: BlackHeaven
As a 49ers fan, I see both sides of the spectrum for our QBs.

Some people love Alex Smith, some hate him.
Some love Colin Kaepernick, others don't.

Personally, I don't think Tebow will ever become an elite QB, but he can be good. sometimes.

The only thing Tebow has going for him is he doesn't turn the ball over. That makes him a decent game manager, not a good QB.

  • 12.04.2012 9:52 AM PDT
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This is such a well disguised hate thread for Christian Ponder. I hate seeing Tebow on the field because Rex Ryan is a moron who can't utilize him properly.

  • 12.04.2012 9:53 AM PDT


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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Stats dont matter.
Wins matter.

Stats measure performance. Wins show you what team won the game without any insight into why.

Tebow, despite putting up pretty bad stats, still had many 4th quarter comebacks. And he had TRASH on offense to work with.
Oh, the clutch argument. Lol.

Listen, Im not saying Tebow is the next coming of Brady or Peyton. I've even said in this thread that I'd take Ponder over him. But Tebow's record speaks for itself.
His record is that he's a bad quarterback. A sub-50 completion percentage on the season is HORRIBLE. There were only two games where it was above 50. Why the hell should he credit for wins he didn't contribute positively to?


7-4 with a playoff win. After the SAME team went 1-4 before he became the starter.

Again, I'm not saying hes AMAZING OMG, like some Tebow fanatics do. But hes a decent player and could be a starter.

Hell, I'd take him to start on my Eagles right now. I believe in Tebow more than Nick Foles.

  • 12.04.2012 9:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
7-4 with a playoff win. After the SAME team went 1-4 before he became the starter.

Terrific, pats on the back to those actually contributed to that (not Tebow).

Decent player, could be a starter =/= good quarterback.

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  • 12.04.2012 9:56 AM PDT

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Hi guys, this stat sheet on Tebow's comeback & game-winning drives should help you with your argument.

You're welcome.

  • 12.04.2012 9:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
How can you hate on Ponder?

I'd take Ponder over Tebow in a second and Im a huge Tebow fan.

Ponder has the potential to be good. Its a shame Percy is as fragile as glass and his other recievers blow.

Ponder hasn't even come close to throwing a good ball to an open receiver in weeks. If they drop it, that is on them, but it is pretty obvious Ponder has no ability to get it to them in the first place. I could give him a break if he showed potential, but he has done nothing aside from getting progressively worse since his one quality game against San Fran.


What is he suppose to do with the 4th string Wideouts around him?

Ponder has potential. Its his second year. His TD-INT ratio isnt bad. Hes had 2 bad games. One at lambeau. and one aganist the great bears D.

Hes 6-6 this year with that garbage team....

Garbage team? AP is one of the greatest running backs to ever play. His numbers over the last 5 years are put up without any supporting passing game or offensive threats. That is a credit to him and the offensive line. Any competent quarterback should be having a field day with everyone stacked on AP. We've had one of the best pass rushes for years, and the secondary is actually good this year. The only garbage on the Vikings is the QB and receiver core.

The only Reason they are 6-6 is because everyone besides Ponder has been doing so well that we can win games with 100 yards of passing.

  • 12.04.2012 9:58 AM PDT