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Subject: Actual reasons for hate on Halo 4
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Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: Murcielago00
Pros: Halo 4.

Cons: the entire whining, complaining section of gripers who've played Halo 4


Hey, a man's allowed to complain if he feels his favorite franchise is losing it's way.


Agreed. Just the way the mass complainers are going about it is irritating. And there's been so many they just all blur into the same whine whine whine category, although it wouldn't be fair to lump every dissenter in that group.

  • 12.04.2012 8:34 AM PDT

You know who I am.

The maps are too symmetrical and repetitive (looking at you Ragnarok and Exile),
the multiplayer is too heavily focused on slayer,
as fun as spartan ops is it's still not a good replacement to a casual game of firefight with your buds,
File browser is constantly down (got to download one map and now it's down again,
Forge environments are too small (though the change in scenery is refreshing),
They still have yet to add extraction to their playlists,
And there is a lack of forge maps in multiplayer.

  • 12.04.2012 8:34 AM PDT

Driven by success.
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I don't like how you can only preview the game you have most recently played in multiplayer (Well, at least, I can't see anything that allows me to preview games which have been played longer ago).

  • 12.04.2012 8:35 AM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln


Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64
I love how people are complaining about things like grenades being nerfed when in Reach all I ever heard was that grenades were like nukes.

Thanks to those complainers, grenades other than a stick are utterly useless.


So you expected people not to complain about grenades not being nukes, and then expect people not to complain about the opposite in a different game?


No. Im merely pointed out how hypocritical people are.

  • 12.04.2012 8:36 AM PDT


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: Murcielago00
Pros: Halo 4.

Cons: the entire whining, complaining section of gripers who've played Halo 4


Hey, a man's allowed to complain if he feels his favorite franchise is losing it's way.


Agreed. Just the way the mass complainers are going about it is irritating. And there's been so many they just all blur into the same whine whine whine category, although it wouldn't be fair to lump every dissenter in that group.


Also agreed. It dose seem to be forming into a horde sort of arrangement I must say. The aim of this thread was to get some constructive points out and to see the views of also constructive people.

  • 12.04.2012 8:39 AM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

SPOILERS FOLLOW

QTEs
Anticlimactic Didact fight
Sense of scale was often amiss
DMR is overpowered
Headshots sometimes don't register
You sometimes get shot through a wall because of lag.
Sit Rec is often completely laggy to the point where someone could be firing several feet away from you in the replay and still kill you.


That's about it, really. Damn good game otherwise.

  • 12.04.2012 8:40 AM PDT


Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64
I love how people are complaining about things like grenades being nerfed when in Reach all I ever heard was that grenades were like nukes.

Thanks to those complainers, grenades other than a stick are utterly useless.


So you expected people not to complain about grenades not being nukes, and then expect people not to complain about the opposite in a different game?


No. Im merely pointed out how hypocritical people are.


True, but sometimes you need that to get classic games.

  • 12.04.2012 8:41 AM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln


Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64
I love how people are complaining about things like grenades being nerfed when in Reach all I ever heard was that grenades were like nukes.

Thanks to those complainers, grenades other than a stick are utterly useless.


So you expected people not to complain about grenades not being nukes, and then expect people not to complain about the opposite in a different game?


No. Im merely pointed out how hypocritical people are.


True, but sometimes you need that to get classic games.


I think the grenade damage in Reach was fine. The radius of a frag seems to be like two feet now, and its hardly worth using, even with the explosives perk or whatever. I just use stickies.

  • 12.04.2012 8:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Alfdog

Hey, a man's allowed to complain if he feels his favorite franchise is losing it's way.


Agreed. Just the way the mass complainers are going about it is irritating. And there's been so many they just all blur into the same whine whine whine category, although it wouldn't be fair to lump every dissenter in that group.


Also agreed. It dose seem to be forming into a horde sort of arrangement I must say. The aim of this thread was to get some constructive points out and to see the views of also constructive people.


It does seem to be forming into a horde/mob mentality. It doesn't help the cause of those who really can articulate what they feel is wrong/lacking from the game.

I, personally, have never had any complaint about any Halo game with the exception of Halo 2. But that was because I overhyped myself for what it was supposed to be, and I hated the Arbiter, and the amount of glitching/hacking in multiplayer. None of which was really Bungie's fault. Just my own expectations against their product.

  • 12.04.2012 8:43 AM PDT


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Alfdog

Hey, a man's allowed to complain if he feels his favorite franchise is losing it's way.


Agreed. Just the way the mass complainers are going about it is irritating. And there's been so many they just all blur into the same whine whine whine category, although it wouldn't be fair to lump every dissenter in that group.


Also agreed. It dose seem to be forming into a horde sort of arrangement I must say. The aim of this thread was to get some constructive points out and to see the views of also constructive people.


It does seem to be forming into a horde/mob mentality. It doesn't help the cause of those who really can articulate what they feel is wrong/lacking from the game.

I, personally, have never had any complaint about any Halo game with the exception of Halo 2. But that was because I overhyped myself for what it was supposed to be, and I hated the Arbiter, and the amount of glitching/hacking in multiplayer. None of which was really Bungie's fault. Just my own expectations against their product.

Well Halo 2 could of been the best Halo if it hadn't of been rushed, so you could say Bungie are to blame for that.
And in regards to the Arbiter: I disagree entirely Sir!

  • 12.04.2012 9:05 AM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.


Posted by: Alfdog
Spartans Ops is an interesting new game mode


no, no it isn't. It's repetitive and boring.

  • 12.04.2012 9:06 AM PDT


Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: Alfdog

Posted by: ArchNinja64
I love how people are complaining about things like grenades being nerfed when in Reach all I ever heard was that grenades were like nukes.

Thanks to those complainers, grenades other than a stick are utterly useless.


So you expected people not to complain about grenades not being nukes, and then expect people not to complain about the opposite in a different game?


No. Im merely pointed out how hypocritical people are.


True, but sometimes you need that to get classic games.


I think the grenade damage in Reach was fine. The radius of a frag seems to be like two feet now, and its hardly worth using, even with the explosives perk or whatever. I just use stickies.

It could of been tuned down a little but I'd rather have nukes than spitballs.

  • 12.04.2012 9:06 AM PDT


Posted by: ALI217

Posted by: Alfdog
Spartans Ops is an interesting new game mode


no, no it isn't. It's repetitive and boring.


The idea behind it was though. Maybe not executed well but they can't be making 5 new environments for every week for 5 weeks now surely?

  • 12.04.2012 9:09 AM PDT

“If we will disbelieve everything, because we cannot certainly know all things, we shall do much what as wisely as he who would not use his legs, but sit still and perish, because he had no wings to fly.” - John Locke

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth after all is so poorly lit." - Rush

Haven't played much of H4 (don't own it), but I really don't like:
- banshee as the only air vehicle
- limited forge palette on most maps
- no theater in campaign

  • 12.04.2012 9:12 AM PDT

This is probably going to end up being a long list, but here goes nothing.

-Random weapon spawns make the game a lot more chaotic and less fun.
-The randomness of player ordinance drops causes the game to be a lot less fair. 3 kills shouldn't give you a random power weapon.
-Maps have terrible flow and are mostly poorly designed.
-Controlling the map doesn't reward better players anymore.
-Has some of the worst respawns I've seen in a halo game, especially when playing team snipers.
-Default sprint makes shotgun, sword, hammer and scatter shot OP on smaller maps.
-Default sprint allows for poor players to easily escape loosing battles.
-Way too many glitches that people constantly abuse online, you shouldn't be able to just jump straight through walls and hide inside them.
-The file browser still isn't up and running which is crazy since it's the exact same on reach used.
-Spawning with plasma grenades and plasma pistols along with the DMR and player ordinance drops renders vehicles practically useless.
-DMR is the strongest of the spawn weapons which makes it the only gun I ever see people use. One gun gameplay isn't fun.
-Binary rifle is OP as hell and should be in player ordinance drops.
-The flood gametype is an awful substitute for infection. Not because of the flood skin but because of the lack of settings that made infection so popular.
-Capture the flag's new game settings along with the inability to turn them off and the lack of symmetrical maps ruins CFT.
-No race game mode, no VIP, no assault, and other game modes people loved.
-Forge world maps are far too small which makes creating big team maps impossible unless you use the premade terrain which is the opposite of creating your own unique map.
-Spartan ops is boring and isn't really anything new.
-Campaign looked nice but was far too short and had a poorly written story.
-Too few online game modes/playlists.
-No theater in campaign, no multiplayer theater.
-Too few vehicles; no hornet/falcon, no elephant/ mammoth in multiplayer, no specter or revenant, and no brute vehicles or weapons despite keeping the gravity hammer.


I could go own but I'll stop here. Now don't take this the wrong way, I still enjoy the game and like it but it doesn't live up to the last few halo games. Overall it was just hyped up too much and didn't live up to everyone's expectations.

  • 12.04.2012 9:46 AM PDT

心の中に弱い風が吹いています。

Actual opinions from the OP about Halo 4.

  • 12.04.2012 9:47 AM PDT

This is what is wrong

And this

It has been explained many times by many people

  • 12.04.2012 9:49 AM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Alfdog

Campaign was too Hollywood and emotionally gushy and lacked the original Halo experience charm,


What does this even mean?


Posted by: Alfdog

Game lacked features (ie. Campaign Theater)


I believe that was due to time constraints, and I believe they are currently working to implement theater for Campaign and Spartan Ops.


We know there are reasons for certain features being cut, thank you. Does it make it OK? Not really. Halo 4 was a step down in many aspects. Halo 4 had a longer production time than any other Halo game and it had the shortest campaign, fewer features, and a copy/paste mode that is Spartan Ops.

  • 12.04.2012 9:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Bryanesie
Actual opinions from the OP about Halo 4.

Make yourself clear in what you mean by that friend.

  • 12.04.2012 9:51 AM PDT

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Halo: Tactical

I'm either a fool or an inteligent man, depending on how sleepy or angry I am.

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  • 12.04.2012 9:51 AM PDT

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The crap music and the crap campaign

  • 12.04.2012 9:56 AM PDT
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I must say, I actually enjoyed Halo 4 and continue to enjoy the multiplayer and Spartan Ops.

I do not like the story direction that they're taking with Dr. Halsey being a war criminal, however, in Spartan Ops.

  • 12.04.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: AH4L
I must say, I actually enjoyed Halo 4 and continue to enjoy the multiplayer and Spartan Ops.

I do not like the story direction that they're taking with Dr. Halsey being a war criminal, however, in Spartan Ops.


She did a BUNCH of illegal -blam!-, dude. No matter how much you can sugar coat it, you can't really deny the fact that, despite her intentions, she is a war criminal.

  • 12.04.2012 9:58 AM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: AH4L
I must say, I actually enjoyed Halo 4 and continue to enjoy the multiplayer and Spartan Ops.

I do not like the story direction that they're taking with Dr. Halsey being a war criminal, however, in Spartan Ops.


Halsey deserves more severe punishment but she happens to be useful for the time being. A couple things I don't like about her:

1. Her Spartans only "saved" the human race because one of them got lucky. There were other people who did just as much, if not more, to save humanity. Like Admiral Cole.

2. If her Spartans failed no one would be saying she is a hero. The success of her project does not dictate the ethics involved, period.

  • 12.04.2012 10:06 AM PDT

Major props to my hommie Sheeef. He made Recon possible for me. Long time recovering emails and passwords. And it was his. lol.

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OP: I love/hate Halo 4. Love cuz it's a Halo game i guess. Hate due to the screw ups. Not going to list them because everyone should by now understand.

  • 12.04.2012 10:11 AM PDT

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