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Posted by: Garland
Free classes? What an excellent waste of tax dollars. And along with a tax credit you're getting a smaller return while spending more money.
They already spend over ten billion a year in scholarships and merit awards, why would this be bad? You have people who are driven to achieve some goal, whereas high school students have, for the most part, no idea or very little idea what they want to do. I think its stupid to invest in high school students

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Posted by: Technoxious

How about instead of making the taxpayer responsible for this, the person can just take out loans that banks make based on the person and their chosen path. So someone training to be an engineer with a job already lined up would get a better loan than someone who wants to receive an education in art history with no job lined up.


Then there isn't any incentive. In fact, that's a barrier to entry. It should be for everyone, and there should be an incentive to do it.

Instead of handing out food stamps or money, it is handing out skills and knowledge. Like the old saying, give a man a fish, he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

  • 12.04.2012 1:00 PM PDT


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Posted by: Garland
Free classes? What an excellent waste of tax dollars. And along with a tax credit you're getting a smaller return while spending more money.


So, why is it a waste?


Because you're investing in education blindly with no regard for how much financial sense it makes which results in the already horrible situation we are currently in with ballooning tuition costs.
But, your investing into your people, who will inturn strengthen the workforce with their new skills


You won't get good return though if you blindly invest based on nothing but people's opinions about how the world should work. You just end up flooding demand so prices spiral upwards.

  • 12.04.2012 1:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: karsttheninja99
Posted by: Garland
Free classes? What an excellent waste of tax dollars. And along with a tax credit you're getting a smaller return while spending more money.
They already spend over ten billion a year in scholarships and merit awards, why would this be bad? You have people who are driven to achieve some goal, whereas high school students have, for the most part, no idea or very little idea what they want to do. I think its stupid to invest in high school students
We're not talking about a degree here. We're talking about giving people incentives to take a random class every year for the rest of their lives.

  • 12.04.2012 1:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: Garland
Free classes? What an excellent waste of tax dollars. And along with a tax credit you're getting a smaller return while spending more money.


So, why is it a waste?


Because you're investing in education blindly with no regard for how much financial sense it makes which results in the already horrible situation we are currently in with ballooning tuition costs.
But, your investing into your people, who will inturn strengthen the workforce with their new skills


You won't get good return though if you blindly invest based on nothing but people's opinions about how the world should work. You just end up flooding demand so prices spiral upwards.
They already do with scholarships

  • 12.04.2012 1:04 PM PDT


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Posted by: Technoxious

How about instead of making the taxpayer responsible for this, the person can just take out loans that banks make based on the person and their chosen path. So someone training to be an engineer with a job already lined up would get a better loan than someone who wants to receive an education in art history with no job lined up.


Then there isn't any incentive. In fact, that's a barrier to entry. It should be for everyone, and there should be an incentive to do it.

Instead of handing out food stamps or money, it is handing out skills and knowledge. Like the old saying, give a man a fish, he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.


The incentive is a higher paying, more desirable job...that's the incentive.

  • 12.04.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Technoxious

How about instead of making the taxpayer responsible for this, the person can just take out loans that banks make based on the person and their chosen path. So someone training to be an engineer with a job already lined up would get a better loan than someone who wants to receive an education in art history with no job lined up.


Then there isn't any incentive. In fact, that's a barrier to entry. It should be for everyone, and there should be an incentive to do it.

Instead of handing out food stamps or money, it is handing out skills and knowledge. Like the old saying, give a man a fish, he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.


The incentive is a higher paying, more desirable job...that's the incentive.
BUt that isn't enough sometimes. Your putting a lot on the line for a higher education. Its a big gamble, especially when it costs about 5k a class at most colleges. Thats a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere

  • 12.04.2012 1:08 PM PDT


Posted by: karsttheninja99
They already do with scholarships


Most state offered scholarships are based on academics which mean that the student is a better investment so those are ok. Ones based on athletics can be ok if that kind of athletics is able to bring in money to the school.

Ones for poor students I think are a necessary evil but they shouldn't be based on race at all.

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  • 12.04.2012 1:08 PM PDT


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Posted by: Technoxious

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: Technoxious

How about instead of making the taxpayer responsible for this, the person can just take out loans that banks make based on the person and their chosen path. So someone training to be an engineer with a job already lined up would get a better loan than someone who wants to receive an education in art history with no job lined up.


Then there isn't any incentive. In fact, that's a barrier to entry. It should be for everyone, and there should be an incentive to do it.

Instead of handing out food stamps or money, it is handing out skills and knowledge. Like the old saying, give a man a fish, he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.


The incentive is a higher paying, more desirable job...that's the incentive.
BUt that isn't enough sometimes. Your putting a lot on the line for a higher education. Its a big gamble, especially when it costs about 5k a class at most colleges. Thats a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere


Well costs would be decreased if we didn't have student loans flooding the market. And yeah it is a risk and should be a risk. That's the whole basis for a free market.

  • 12.04.2012 1:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Technoxious

Posted by: karsttheninja99
[/quote]They already do with scholarships


Most state offered scholarships are based on academics which mean that the student is a better investment so those are ok. Ones based on athletics can be ok if that kind of athletics is able to bring in money to the school.

Ones for poor students I think are a necessary evil but they shouldn't be based on race at all.
But even the academic ones are a HUGE risk. Its common knowledge that the public education system in the USA doesn't prepare you for college. They don't teach students how to study or learn the way you need to inorder to succeed

  • 12.04.2012 1:11 PM PDT


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Posted by: Technoxious

Posted by: karsttheninja99
[/quote]They already do with scholarships


Most state offered scholarships are based on academics which mean that the student is a better investment so those are ok. Ones based on athletics can be ok if that kind of athletics is able to bring in money to the school.

Ones for poor students I think are a necessary evil but they shouldn't be based on race at all.
But even the academic ones are a HUGE risk. Its common knowledge that the public education system in the USA doesn't prepare you for college. They don't teach students how to study or learn the way you need to inorder to succeed


But it's less of a risk...therefore the cost should be less.

  • 12.04.2012 1:12 PM PDT

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