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Subject: Some Thoughts on Halo 5 (Contains Spoilers)
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That's a very interesting theory. I'm very excited for Halo 5 because there's so much stuff that's gonna happen. I think Jul 'mdama and his story in Spartan Ops will become intertwined with the main story somehow as well.

  • 12.04.2012 1:20 PM PDT
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You make a valid point. It feels nice to be back in the days of speculation.

  • 12.04.2012 1:25 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


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Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran
I normaly disagree with but this is a pretty interesting concept and if 343 could manage it it could become a very good story.
Exactly, especially since they haven't touched on what exactly was done to Chief in the first place. It also seems like the only logical reason they would kill off Cortana, a need in the story to replace her.
Yeah, first i was thinking that they would replace her with a new AI to show how he would cope with something new and being out of his comfort zone, but not only does your theory makes more sense, it's also better!
*claps excitedly*
That's exactly how I felt when I thought about it. It's amazing how well you can think when you're forced to sit in a room silently with just a book for an hour.

  • 12.04.2012 1:35 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.


Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran
I normaly disagree with but this is a pretty interesting concept and if 343 could manage it it could become a very good story.
Exactly, especially since they haven't touched on what exactly was done to Chief in the first place. It also seems like the only logical reason they would kill off Cortana, a need in the story to replace her.
Yeah, first i was thinking that they would replace her with a new AI to show how he would cope with something new and being out of his comfort zone, but not only does your theory makes more sense, it's also better!
*claps excitedly*
That's exactly how I felt when I thought about it. It's amazing how well you can think when you're forced to sit in a room silently with just a book for an hour.
and thats why the story is the most important part of a game, for me, you may enjoy the multiplayer, but will it make you think? Thats something only a great story can do.

  • 12.04.2012 1:56 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran
I normaly disagree with but this is a pretty interesting concept and if 343 could manage it it could become a very good story.
Exactly, especially since they haven't touched on what exactly was done to Chief in the first place. It also seems like the only logical reason they would kill off Cortana, a need in the story to replace her.
Yeah, first i was thinking that they would replace her with a new AI to show how he would cope with something new and being out of his comfort zone, but not only does your theory makes more sense, it's also better!
*claps excitedly*
That's exactly how I felt when I thought about it. It's amazing how well you can think when you're forced to sit in a room silently with just a book for an hour.
and thats why the story is the most important part of a game, for me, you may enjoy the multiplayer, but will it make you think? Thats something only a great story can do.
But it has to be thought, not over thought like the bs that was the ending to Mass Effect 3. Story always makes the game when it comes to Halo.

  • 12.04.2012 3:11 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.


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Agreed.
Now the real problem is, will 343 suced or will it flop, storywise Halo 5 is the most important game of the new trilogy because it will be the one that estabilishes the changes made in 4 if it flops it will be the end of the franchise.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 3:17 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 3:12 PM PDT

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At least it won't be Roland. Most annoying AI ever.

  • 12.04.2012 3:26 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.


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At least it won't be Roland. Most annoying AI ever.
What? waht did you just say you Scum? this is heresy, i will not stand for this, someone call the inquisiton!

  • 12.04.2012 3:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran
I normaly disagree with but this is a pretty interesting concept and if 343 could manage it it could become a very good story.
Exactly, especially since they haven't touched on what exactly was done to Chief in the first place. It also seems like the only logical reason they would kill off Cortana, a need in the story to replace her.


Massive Spoilers . .

Well one of the things the Liberian did is she made it so Master Chief wouldn't get killed by the Didacts weapon, she very well could have modified Chiefs shields.

That's why Master Chief didn't die at the research facility that had the Composer.

She also could have uploaded her self or a forerunner AI she made to Cortana's chip and made it so the new AI would boot up after Cortana sacrificed her self to save Chief.

As for the Didact he could have did what Cortana did to Chief, so he wouldn't get killed by the nuke.

I kind of think that space Chief and Cortana were in is the same kind of space where the Master Chief interacted with the Liberian.

Also I don't think the Didact would try and take over the Master Chief, he looked down on the Master Chief as a lower level form of life.

And I don't think Prometheans can be turned back into their original bodies.

They are AI constructs like Cortana.

  • 12.04.2012 4:28 PM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

Posted by: Bungie Sam
Halsey could be controlled by a geas. She even selected Chief, so he could have a geas too.
All the Spartans could be a geas.

Everyone has a geas.

It's the new AIDS.

Just a point to the OP: ancient humans never found a cure for the Flood. The Flood simply chose not to infect them at a certain point. My theory is that because the humans researched a constructive solution, in a cure, rather than the Forerunner's destructive solution of galaxy-wide murder, the Flood was swayed.

The Flood will probably return in Halo 5, and the Precursors will make themselves known at the very end, leading to an epictastic Halo 6 that will include all the bombast and scale that Halo 3 promised.

  • 12.04.2012 4:35 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: AnonymousF22

Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: fsabran
I normaly disagree with but this is a pretty interesting concept and if 343 could manage it it could become a very good story.
Exactly, especially since they haven't touched on what exactly was done to Chief in the first place. It also seems like the only logical reason they would kill off Cortana, a need in the story to replace her.


Massive Spoilers . .

Well one of the things the Liberian did is she made it so Master Chief wouldn't get killed by the Didacts weapon, she very well could have modified Chiefs shields.

That's why Master Chief didn't die at the research facility that had the Composer.

She also could have uploaded her self or a forerunner AI she made to Cortana's chip and made it so the new AI would boot up after Cortana sacrificed her self to save Chief.

As for the Didact he could have did what Cortana did to Chief, so he wouldn't get killed by the nuke.

I kind of think that space Chief and Cortana were in is the same kind of space where the Master Chief interacted with the Liberian.

Also I don't think the Didact would try and take over the Master Chief, he looked down on the Master Chief as a lower level form of life.

And I don't think Prometheans can be turned back into their original bodies.

They are AI constructs like Cortana.

As far as the composer goes I'm the sure the Librarian did something similar to Chief as was done to the Didact, he is immune to the composer as well.

I doubt the Librarian uploaded herself or anyone to Cortana's chip. When the process is done the old memory literally resides in the hosts mind. Meaning that if this was done there would essentially be an ancient human living in Chiefs head. I never said the Didact would take control, as well as speaking with the host if they gain enough power the ancient mind can take control of the host body and use it to speak and such.

The geas is literally a signal that draws humans to go where it tells them. If it is ignored it weakens them to a point of near death and they will go anyway for the sake of survival. That is why I highly doubt any current humans have a geas.

Prometheans are not AI. The composer takes living life forms and turns them into a sort of ghost like memory. That memory can be put into a living beings head, put into a monitor (I am beginning to think 343-GS may be one of the ancient humans from the Forerunner Saga), or they can be put into apparently a warrior form. I have no clue why the Composer in the book is unable to preserve the memories as that is not how it functions in the novels. I'm hoping that is touched upon more, but my point is they are not AI, but something entirely different. Oh and yes, monitors are really just the memories of Forerunners who gave their lives to serve the empire.

Case and point, I really hope this is implemented next game, because having a views and knowledge of an ancient human in Chiefs head would be pretty sweet.

  • 12.05.2012 10:47 AM PDT

What they need to do is introduce the leader of the Spartan IVs and have him and Chief become friends. This new character would help bring out some sort of personality from Chief. This in turn would help ease the pain of 343 revealing Chiefs face (which they will). And no, I don't think Sarah Palmer is the leader of the Spartan IVs (stupid -blam!-).

  • 12.05.2012 10:56 AM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: Tartan 118
Posted by: Bungie Sam
Halsey could be controlled by a geas. She even selected Chief, so he could have a geas too.
All the Spartans could be a geas.

Everyone has a geas.

It's the new AIDS.

Just a point to the OP: ancient humans never found a cure for the Flood. The Flood simply chose not to infect them at a certain point. My theory is that because the humans researched a constructive solution, in a cure, rather than the Forerunner's destructive solution of galaxy-wide murder, the Flood was swayed.

The Flood will probably return in Halo 5, and the Precursors will make themselves known at the very end, leading to an epictastic Halo 6 that will include all the bombast and scale that Halo 3 promised.
Not so much swayed as the Precursors control them. They want the humans to ascend as their heirs to the mantle, not the Forerunners. This is all coming together to be very complicated in the end, though the prospect of Human, Flood, and Elites all fighting together to save the galaxy does sound pretty damn awesome.

  • 12.05.2012 11:06 AM PDT

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