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Subject: Which kind of gamer do you hate most?

People like my friend who complain almost everytime they die. He always has some lame-ass excuse. It's so freakin' annoying. The rest of my friends and I try to avoid him online now and only talk to him in person because then he has no game to -blam!- about.

  • 12.04.2012 2:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Knux NY

Posted by: Cpt Needa
Oh, who don't I? Casuals, GURRL GAMERS, children, anyone who screams into the mic, anyone who ever exclaims "WOOOOOW" (and that extends into real life), tryhards in friendly matches, people who talk smack via text and piss away game time doing so, people overly sensitive to smack talk, people who try to grief and suck at it, and so on.

No, really. I could go on.


^This guy knows whats up.


Watch you boii say 'bou gurl gaumearous?! i smack yo face till its puple!

  • 12.04.2012 2:33 PM PDT

"Casuals" don't cause problems, so...? Children and teens can be obnoxious but can also be dead-on (cool). I have no idea what you mean by "hater" in this context to be quite honest.

  • 12.04.2012 2:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Knux NY
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Because one small section of games, shooters, represents all games, right?

Perhaps if you stopped projecting one genre of gaming as a representation of all of them and played more games you wouldn't have the view that you do. But I won't be able to change your mind if you think shooting games are the only ones to play.

I suggest you actually read the thread next time, before saying something so obviously wrong.


EDIT: And for reference. Thanks to casuals, Popular and respected franchises are just being turned into shooters (Resident Evil, X-Com, ect) because casuals will happily lap up crap and swallow because they simply don;t know any better. It effects ALL genres, not just shooters.

You think X-com is a shooter?

Survival horror games tend to shift more towards action horror as the series progress. This happens more than you think. Once the initial mystery that made the game frightening has been revealed there is little other place to go.

Sure there are some that are able to do it, though most of them bring in a new mystery or add additional layers to the old one that the player must uncover. So Resident Evil's shift is more due to poor storywriting and developing than 'casual gamers'. You may blame it on that, but they have little to do with each other.

It doesn't effect platforming games. It doesn't effect sports games. It doesn't effect puzzle games. It doesn't effect action games. It doesn't effect adventure games. It doesn't effect RPGs. It doesn't effect RTS, TBS or well most strategy games really. It doesn't effect fighting games. It doesn't effect Hack 'n Slash or Beat 'em Ups.

So basically you've shown that it effects shooters, survival horror games and maybe some stealth games (though the good ones for that haven't been, see Mark of the Ninja for example). Oh no, the industry is dying.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 2:37 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 2:34 PM PDT

No thought required, just spawn and GOOOOOOOOOOO


Posted by: Marinade
Posted by: Knux NY
Posted by: Marinade
Because one small section of games, shooters, represents all games, right?

Perhaps if you stopped projecting one genre of gaming as a representation of all of them and played more games you wouldn't have the view that you do. But I won't be able to change your mind if you think shooting games are the only ones to play.

I suggest you actually read the thread next time, before saying something so obviously wrong.


EDIT: And for reference. Thanks to casuals, Popular and respected franchises are just being turned into shooters (Resident Evil, X-Com, ect) because casuals will happily lap up crap and swallow because they simply don;t know any better. It effects ALL genres, not just shooters.

You think X-com is a shooter?

Survival horror games tend to shift more towards action horror as the series progress. This happens more than you think. Once the initial mystery that made the game frightening has been revealed there is little other place to go.

Sure there are some that are able to do it, though most of them bring in a new mystery or add additional layers to the old one that the player must uncover. So Resident Evil's shift is more due to poor storywriting and developing than 'casual gamers'. You may blame it on that, but they have little to do with each other.

It doesn't effect platforming games. It doesn't effect sports games. It doesn't effect puzzle games. It doesn't effect action games. It doesn't effect adventure games. It doesn't effect RPGs. It doesn't effect RTS, TBS or well most strategy games really. It doesn't effect fighting games. It doesn't effect Hack 'n Slash or Beat 'em Ups.

So basically you've shown that it effects shooters, survival horror games and maybe some stealth games (though the good ones for that haven't been, see Mark of the Ninja for example). Oh no, the industry is dying.



A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.


[Edited on 12.04.2012 2:43 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 2:41 PM PDT

"I actually don't hold a grudge against someone talking trash about me if they're shot afterwards, I try to rise above that "

Gordon Freeman, Freeman's Mind

The Raging Elitist.

Be it old, young, rich or poor, somehow, they are better than you.

Be it they have a higher K/D or W/L, they have ELITE/Premium/Membership, or even if they have more kills on a supposed 'balanced' or 'weak' weapon.

They must point it out to you that they are better then you for that particular reason, and hate your guts for not being ELITE/Premium/Member/better.

EDIT: Also people who are 'veterans' to a game series would kinda go under this. As much 'sway' as that has, I don't really care if someone has played all of the games before and bought the limited editions.


[Edited on 12.04.2012 2:51 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 2:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Knux NY
A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.

I was going to say casuals have simplified RPGs over the years and use Mass Effect as an example, but then I realized that I don't care enough to explain that just because there were only 2 examples given doesn't mean they're the only two examples there are.

Edit: which is to say I agree with you entirely.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 2:45 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 2:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Knux NY
A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.

I was going to say casuals have simplified RPGs over the years and use Mass Effect as an example, but then I realized that I don't care enough to explain that just because there were only 2 examples given doesn't mean they're the only two examples there are.

Edit: which is to say I agree with you entirely.
i hate when RPGs are simplified i hated not having the statistics in skyrim and -blam!- hated how mass effect 3 was more about the action than anything else i found it be a good game but DAMN it lost all forms of life out of it once you finished it

  • 12.04.2012 2:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Knux NY
A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.

You left one out.

Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists.

Oh and you showed a gameplay video from E3 2011 for X-Com? Here's one from Sept 2012. Looks so much like a shooter doesn't it?

But hey, there's no convincing you of anything. So keep believing the people that are the main reason the industry even exists are also killing it.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 2:51 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 2:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Marinade
Posted by: Knux NY
A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.

You left one out.

Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists.

Oh and you showed a gameplay video from E3 2011 for X-Com? Here's one from Sept 2012. Looks so much like a shooter doesn't it?

But hey, there's no convincing you of anything. So keep believing the people that are the main reason the industry even exists are also killing it.
hate to burst your bubble but that is enemy unknown which is the turn based strategy while Xcom will be an FPS

  • 12.04.2012 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: LocknLoader2K8
Posted by: Marinade
You left one out.

Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists.

Oh and you showed a gameplay video from E3 2011 for X-Com? Here's one from Sept 2012. Looks so much like a shooter doesn't it?

But hey, there's no convincing you of anything. So keep believing the people that are the main reason the industry even exists are also killing it.
hate to burst your bubble but that is enemy unknown which is the turn based strategy while Xcom will be an FPS

Still shows that not every game is becoming an FPS, as he claims.

  • 12.04.2012 2:54 PM PDT

Where is the tryhard option?

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Where are the whiners? Whiners are different than haters.

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Posted by: Marinade
Posted by: LocknLoader2K8
Posted by: Marinade
You left one out.

Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists.

Oh and you showed a gameplay video from E3 2011 for X-Com? Here's one from Sept 2012. Looks so much like a shooter doesn't it?

But hey, there's no convincing you of anything. So keep believing the people that are the main reason the industry even exists are also killing it.
hate to burst your bubble but that is enemy unknown which is the turn based strategy while Xcom will be an FPS

Still shows that not every game is becoming an FPS, as he claims.
true dat and what mighty fine game EU turned out to be

  • 12.04.2012 2:55 PM PDT
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  • 12.04.2012 2:55 PM PDT

No thought required, just spawn and GOOOOOOOOOOO


Posted by: Marinade
Posted by: Knux NY
A FPS, to be exact.


Thanks to casuals, we barley even get many new platformers. We have to rely on indie games if we wan't something new.

Thanks to casuals, we don't get many rhythm games anymore.

Thanks to casuals, most JRPGs don't even get localized.

Thanks to casuals, developers cut out content from the finished game, and they sell it back to them.

Thanks to casuals, DLC is WAY over priced.

Thanks to casuals, adventure games get progressively more and more linear.


I can go on forever.

You left one out.

Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists.

Oh and you showed a gameplay video from E3 2011 for X-Com? Here's one from Sept 2012. Looks so much like a shooter doesn't it?



"XCom" and "XCom: Enemy Unknown" are two entirely different games. One is currently being made by 2Kmarin, while the other is being made by Fireaxis Games.

You might aswell show gameplay of Resident Evil 2 in an argument about Operation Raccoon City. That would make just as much sense.


As for thinking "Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists".... No. Just, No. Casuals haven't mattered in the video game industry until the PS2 came out. (Made evident by all the shovelware that exists on the PS2, compared to any previous console) It started off without them. You have to be extremely delusional to think otherwise.

  • 12.04.2012 2:56 PM PDT

Halo 3 is where the morons of the universe congregates.

I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

Posted by: zarrowsmith
If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.

Where does mlg wantbe go on that list?

  • 12.04.2012 2:57 PM PDT

<3

As much as I hate casuals, my girlfriend is one. So I can't really say that huh.

Ok, I'll go with little kid. Wait, my 10 year old brother is pretty cool and he likes the same games I do.

Teen! Dammit I'm 18

Hater? I didn't even know that was a type of gamer.

Hardcore. I used to be one so I know how that is.

How can I hate any kind of gamer?

  • 12.04.2012 2:59 PM PDT

Currently studying Computer Science & Software engineering. Hope to work on mobile devices of the future! When a certain game's credits roll, look out for my name! ;)

You will -blam!- bricks when you see what game it is! =)

To be honest i dont mind anyone else, as long as they dont go on bragging, or just insulting people for no reason. Even if you are a child or a casual gamer, all I want is just enjoy my hobby called gaming.

I have a very diverse friends list, from people who just play Uno or Guitar hero, to people who prefer much bigger titles.

  • 12.04.2012 3:03 PM PDT

Currently studying Computer Science & Software engineering. Hope to work on mobile devices of the future! When a certain game's credits roll, look out for my name! ;)

You will -blam!- bricks when you see what game it is! =)


Posted by: Toxifies
As much as I hate casuals, my girlfriend is one. So I can't really say that huh.

Ok, I'll go with little kid. Wait, my 10 year old brother is pretty cool and he likes the same games I do.

Teen! Dammit I'm 18

Hater? I didn't even know that was a type of gamer.

Hardcore. I used to be one so I know how that is.

How can I hate any kind of gamer?


well we have like all things in common


casual gamer girlfreind check;

Little kid bro who plays Quake 3 arena Check;

Been a hardcore gamer check;

  • 12.04.2012 3:04 PM PDT

"Filthy casuals!"

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We were (probably) all child gamers at one point, so I voted hater.

  • 12.04.2012 3:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Knux NY
As for thinking "Thanks to casuals, the game industry exists".... No. Just, No. Casuals haven't mattered in the video game industry until the PS2 came out. (Made evident by all the shovelware that exists on the PS2, compared to any previous console) It started off without them. You have to be extremely delusional to think otherwise.

That's hilarious. Casual gamers are the reason gaming didn't die in 1982 with the first big crash. Who do you think bought the NES in 1985 when it came out? Hardcore gamers? My grandmother had one. You don't get much more casual than a 67 year old woman that likes to play Othello and Tetris.

Casual gamers have been in this industry since the start. That you somehow think they haven't just shows how delusional and sad you really are. Besides you can't blame casuals for the lack of depth in a game anyway. Most of them like their games to be deep and approachable.

Lazy devs that don't understand that are the problem. They seem to want to make approachable games and think the only way to do so is make them easy and lacking in depth. You are directing your distaste towards the wrong people.

  • 12.04.2012 3:13 PM PDT

The ones who think they are mlg because they play gamebattles and then complain every single time they die.

  • 12.04.2012 3:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cpt Needa
I was going to say casuals have simplified RPGs over the years and use Mass Effect as an example, but then I realized that I don't care enough to explain that just because there were only 2 examples given doesn't mean they're the only two examples there are.

Edit: which is to say I agree with you entirely.

Does anyone actually think Mass Effect is an RPG anymore?

I mean, I like Mass Effect, or at least I used to like it until they botched the story, but I never thought it was an RPG. It's an action game with an enthralling story.

  • 12.04.2012 3:14 PM PDT