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Subject: Okay, if you think Halo 4 was so bad...


Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: rejected1s

Posted by: Aang the Avatar
I would have copied Halo 3 and pasted it into a Halo 4 disk. I would not change anything at all, because Halo 3 is the pinnacle of gaming. It's netcode was flawless, it's sandbox was perfect, and the graphics are so realistic I sometimes think I'm looking out a window. The campaign was amazing, the first half especially. "Cortana" will also always remain as a classic videogame level for the ages.


It makes me sad to know that's what you think of the older fans.


I've been playing Halo since CE. I think I would classify as an "older fan".


By older fan I meant some one who favors the way the first three games played, Which according to you is some one who will brake down in tears every time something new comes along.

  • 12.04.2012 3:19 PM PDT

Normal multiplayer would feature equal starting grounds, weapon pick-ups on maps and no daft kill-replays. A special playlist section would be designated for modern, class-based multiplayer so as not to completely abandon the already established fans of it from Reach. They would have:

Squad Loadouts - Custom class 6v6 featuring ordnance with slayer and objective
FFA Loadouts - Custom class 8 player FFA featuring ordnance with slayer and objective

Veto system brought in so we could have variety for a freaking change,

Other standard playlists would include the classics.

- Team Slayer 4v4
- Rumble Pit 8 FFA (slayer and objective!)
- Team Objective 4v4 (KOTH, Oddball, Team Regicide, Territories etc.)
- Infection 13 FFA (I would have made it like the old days)
- Hardcore Slayer 4v4 (strict settings, BR, low health etc.)
- Team Duos 2v2v2v2 (slayer and objective)
- Big Team Battle 8v8 (slayer, CTF, assault etc.)
- Carnage Central 4v4 (or 5v5) designed to include community maps for pure fun. Race gametypes, explosive fun and just carnage filled mayhem. Updated frequently with community faves.

I could sit here all day doing this.

  • 12.04.2012 3:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Gaara444
I miss playing a competitive game with people that were at the same level as me. How many ranked playlists do they have in Halo 4 again? Oh yeah, none.

Posted by: lazerlemon
Yeah I miss that as well.

It's not like the 1-50 system won't be EVER implemented in Halo 4.

  • 12.04.2012 3:20 PM PDT

Posted by: rejected1s

Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: rejected1s

Posted by: Aang the Avatar
I would have copied Halo 3 and pasted it into a Halo 4 disk. I would not change anything at all, because Halo 3 is the pinnacle of gaming. It's netcode was flawless, it's sandbox was perfect, and the graphics are so realistic I sometimes think I'm looking out a window. The campaign was amazing, the first half especially. "Cortana" will also always remain as a classic videogame level for the ages.


It makes me sad to know that's what you think of the older fans.


I've been playing Halo since CE. I think I would classify as an "older fan".


By older fan I meant some one who favors the way the first three games played, Which according to you is some one who will brake down in tears every time something new comes along.

Can you blame us for thinking that? Everytime something new comes, the "older fans" will often mindlessly cry and complain to no end.

  • 12.04.2012 3:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: lazerlemon

Posted by: Gaara444
brought back 1-50

"Message from xXxgam3rkidl3g1t42069X
* squeaky voice* message to all recent players, I'm selling 50's if you're interested message me back.
"
Yeah I miss that as well

DON'T FORGET:

>Join a match
>Suddenly disconnect from it
>Try to join another match
>Can't, must be live acting up
>Go to pc, try to watch Youtube
>Can't, have to ring my ISP
>Turns out I've been DDOS'ed
>FINALLY get my internet back after a week

Yeah, I want that back very much.

  • 12.04.2012 3:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Gaara444
I miss playing a competitive game with people that were at the same level as me. How many ranked playlists do they have in Halo 4 again? Oh yeah, none.

Posted by: lazerlemon
Yeah I miss that as well.

What if I told you















Rank doesnt matter

  • 12.04.2012 3:25 PM PDT

It doesn't....In Halo Reach/4.

Posted by: lazerlemon
What if I told you















Rank doesnt matter

  • 12.04.2012 3:26 PM PDT

What if I told you...

*scoots in closer*

I hate you

Meh. Shooters got boring to me.

  • 12.04.2012 3:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
If you get a chance to talk to K-Mart, tell him Mabian misses him...

He won't remember me, but it's always nice to let a complete stranger on the internet know that you care.


Posted by: Exile78
Sir I can't help but get the sense that you don't want to really talk about this, you want to "nail" me.


Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: NothingToxic
Remove Standard FPS elements. DERP.

Fix'd
It didn't need a fixin'.

  • 12.04.2012 3:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Knux NY
I would have made a sequel to Halo 3, NOT a sequel to Halo: Reach.

  • 12.04.2012 3:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Gaara444
It doesn't....In Halo Reach/4.

Cause everyone cares that you had a 50 in halo 3.

  • 12.04.2012 3:29 PM PDT

Posted by: NothingToxic

Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: NothingToxic
Remove Standard FPS elements. DERP.

Fix'd
It didn't need a fixin'.

CoD did not invent these features, they're just common now.

  • 12.04.2012 3:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
If you get a chance to talk to K-Mart, tell him Mabian misses him...

He won't remember me, but it's always nice to let a complete stranger on the internet know that you care.


Posted by: Exile78
Sir I can't help but get the sense that you don't want to really talk about this, you want to "nail" me.


Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: NothingToxic

Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: NothingToxic
Remove Standard FPS elements. DERP.

Fix'd
It didn't need a fixin'.

CoD did not invent these features, they're just common now.
Thanks to CoD.

  • 12.04.2012 3:32 PM PDT

Smaller maps.
No AA's.
No ordnance drops.
OS/camo are map pickups.
Weapons that actually spawn on the map.
Longer weapon despawn time.
Better spawns (enemies shouldn't spawn in your base if you're at theirs).
No custom loadouts/anything related to it.
Actual ranking system on launch day (1-50), not a progression system that constantly pats you on the back for doing next to nothing.
Fix join in progress, or remove it.
No team-splitting.
Fix Spartan Ops glitches (enemies spawning under the map, tiny enemies, etc).
Better custom options.
No auto-objective pickup.
Able to drop the flag.
Can't throw the oddball at an enemy and force them to catch it.
Assault.
No locked emblems.
Nuke the boltshot.
Fix/get rid of killcams that show nothing but your enemy missing and somehow killing you.
No instant respawns.
Better playlist management. BTB should have objective.
No glitching through surfaces (at least test it and try to limit it).

  • 12.04.2012 3:32 PM PDT

Fun fact: I didn't, check out my stats I never made it to 40. However, I still think that the ranked playlists in Halo 3 is much better than what we have in Halo 4 (nothing but Social). In fact, if it wasn't for Halo 3's dead population I would be playing it over Halo 4.

Posted by: lazerlemon
Cause everyone cares that you had a 50 in halo 3.

  • 12.04.2012 3:34 PM PDT
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Everything that follows...
Posted by: Toxifies
I would have made it a sequel to Halo 3, not Reach.

That means, make it an Arena shooter again where everybody is at the same level and the only variable in each game is skill.

You don't all get to choose different armor abilities, you don't all get to choose different weapons, or perks.

Everybody starts out the same, with the same gun, and the same opportunity to pick up power weapons on the map.

Just like the first 3 Halos. The Halos that were the best Halos. Ever wonder why everybody says Reach is bad? Well Halo 4 took all the bad things and put them in this game and tweaked them slightly.

It's like getting poop smeared all over your face. You hate it, but then a patch comes out that makes poop smell good. Well they just created an illusion to make you think it's not all that bad, but let me tell you. You're still getting poop smeared all over your face.

  • 12.04.2012 3:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: Toxifies
Stop being dramatic. Don't you think if 343i released that game, people wouldn't criticise them for being just Bungie's copycats and playing it safe?

It is for people like you, that innovation is dying in the AAA titles.
343 didn't make any new innovations though. They just took crap that doesn't belong in Halo and put it in Halo.

  • 12.04.2012 3:37 PM PDT
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Without The Flood, I wouldn't know what an opinion is.

You say that as if people don't already spam the Internet with their opinions.

  • 12.04.2012 3:38 PM PDT


Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: rejected1s

Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: rejected1s

Posted by: Aang the Avatar
I would have copied Halo 3 and pasted it into a Halo 4 disk. I would not change anything at all, because Halo 3 is the pinnacle of gaming. It's netcode was flawless, it's sandbox was perfect, and the graphics are so realistic I sometimes think I'm looking out a window. The campaign was amazing, the first half especially. "Cortana" will also always remain as a classic videogame level for the ages.


It makes me sad to know that's what you think of the older fans.


I've been playing Halo since CE. I think I would classify as an "older fan".


By older fan I meant some one who favors the way the first three games played, Which according to you is some one who will brake down in tears every time something new comes along.

Can you blame us for thinking that? Everytime something new comes, the "older fans" will often mindlessly cry and complain to no end.

Not mindlessly, if you actually take the take to hear the explanation you might realize some just because its new it does not mean its good.
While I do agree that every now and then we need a real change in order to spice things up its still entirely possible that the way it was done previously was superior.

The new flag settings are a great example of that.

http://forums.halowaypoint.com//yaf_postst125280_Infinity-CTF -just-isn-t-going-to-work.aspx

For the life of me, I can not get this link to work! Some one wanna point out what I'm doing wrong?

[Edited on 12.04.2012 3:42 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Gaara444
Fun fact: I didn't, check out my stats I never made it to 40. However, I still think that the ranked playlists in Halo 3 is much better than what we have in Halo 4 (nothing but Social). In fact, if it wasn't for Halo 3's dead population I would be playing it over Halo 4.

Posted by: lazerlemon
Cause everyone cares that you had a 50 in halo 3.

Although I do understand your incentive to have a 1-50 ranking system I disagree due to my many memories of not being able to play team doubles alone thanks to boosters, getting constant messages after every game selling 50's and getting host booted.

  • 12.04.2012 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: rejected1s

http://forums.halowaypoint.com//yaf_postst125280_Infinity-CTF -just-isn-t-going-to-work.aspx

For the life of me, I can not get this link to work! Some one wanna point out what I'm doing wrong?


Remove the s from https.

  • 12.04.2012 3:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: rejected1s

http://forums.halowaypoint.com//yaf_postst125280_Infinity-CTF -just-isn-t-going-to-work.aspx

For the life of me, I can not get this link to work! Some one wanna point out what I'm doing wrong?


Remove the s from https.


Many thanks.

  • 12.04.2012 3:42 PM PDT


Posted by: jgman676
Smaller maps.
No AA's.
No ordnance drops.
OS/camo are map pickups.
Weapons that actually spawn on the map.
Longer weapon despawn time.
Better spawns (enemies shouldn't spawn in your base if you're at theirs).
No custom loadouts/anything related to it.
Actual ranking system on launch day (1-50), not a progression system that constantly pats you on the back for doing next to nothing.
Fix join in progress, or remove it.
No team-splitting.
Fix Spartan Ops glitches (enemies spawning under the map, tiny enemies, etc).
Better custom options.
No auto-objective pickup.
Able to drop the flag.
Can't throw the oddball at an enemy and force them to catch it.
Assault.
No locked emblems.
Nuke the boltshot.
Fix/get rid of killcams that show nothing but your enemy missing and somehow killing you.
No instant respawns.
Better playlist management. BTB should have objective.
No glitching through surfaces (at least test it and try to limit it).

Man, I have to agree with everything here. If the AA stay, at least have them as pickups on the map. Also, weapons despawning is a big problem in this game. If you die, and don't pick it up quick enough it's gone. The absence of assault and many custom options is terrible. No campaign theatre? They still don't have Custom Game matchmaking? Instead of firefight or spartan ops, that's what they should be working on.

  • 12.04.2012 3:44 PM PDT
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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me"

- Batman

More maps like: Turf, The Pit, Guardian etc.

An Objective playlist, rather than a bunch of low population separate ones.

One headshot Infection like in Halo 3 and Reach.

A 1-50 ranking system, that is visible in game.

I love Halo 4, but those are the things I would have changed.

  • 12.04.2012 3:44 PM PDT


Posted by: lazerlemon

Posted by: Gaara444
Fun fact: I didn't, check out my stats I never made it to 40. However, I still think that the ranked playlists in Halo 3 is much better than what we have in Halo 4 (nothing but Social). In fact, if it wasn't for Halo 3's dead population I would be playing it over Halo 4.

Posted by: lazerlemon
Cause everyone cares that you had a 50 in halo 3.

Although I do understand your incentive to have a 1-50 ranking system I disagree due to my many memories of not being able to play team doubles alone thanks to boosters, getting constant messages after every game selling 50's and getting host booted.
No one host booted you at low 40s TD. I don't recall ever getting more than a few messages where people were actually selling 50s. There were plenty of boosters though, but that's a terrible excuse for being bad.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 3:45 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 3:45 PM PDT

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