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Subject: 14 valid reasons why halo 4's story/campaign was awful.


Posted by: Murcielago00

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I suppose it's possible but i don't think 343 were thinking that, they didn't bother explaining it because they just don't care about us.


That's a far reach to make, from them not explaining it being due to the fact that 343i hates its fanbase.



But sometimes fan theories actually can make things better than the creators could.


Exactly, if fan theories are better than what the creators did then surely they are bad at doing halo.


[Edited on 12.04.2012 3:44 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 3:42 PM PDT

"That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing after another, a what and a what and a what.

Now try how and why."

What do you think would have made it better?

I don't ask because I disagree with you (well, I wouldn't agree with all of it, but I think you've mentioned at least one of my biggest complaints with regards to halo 4), but because I would find it would be far more interesting and thought provoking than simply listing off stuff you hate.

  • 12.04.2012 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rayzor1995
15.This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

  • 12.04.2012 3:48 PM PDT


Posted by: homocidalham
What do you think would have made it better?

I don't ask because I disagree with you (well, I wouldn't agree with all of it, but I think you've mentioned at least one of my biggest complaints with regards to halo 4), but because I would find it would be far more interesting and thought provoking than simply listing off stuff you hate.


It's kind of hard to explain, it's not the original halo, it's all different and it's cheesy as -blam!-. It's not got that halo feeling. It's not one thing in particular that makes it bad, the halo series has just sold out story-wise and the games i played as a kid are gone forever. You must be able to relate to this haha.

  • 12.04.2012 3:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: xX ADZY Xx
I don't know about anyone else but i was purely disappointed with halo 4,343 tried to make it all new and different and exiting and they just went overboard. They actually can't be trusted with halo, here's why...

1.Elites has massive fat feet and they look ridiculous,they also have fat ugly toad heads. Subspecies


3.They made the chief all -blam!- he isn't even cool anymore. His voice actually gets annoying as -blam!- in some parts, his character is different to halo 1, 2 and 3.

He was frozen for years

4.The elites are enemies again even though they were allies in halo 3, but apparently we don't deserve to know why.

They broke off from the covenant after they declared peace with humans, they are "the storm".

5.Cortana's death and the way she defeats the didact is just ridiculous, it makes no sense and is completely retarded.

Opinion

6.The didact and the prometheans,the worst enemies ever. Typical robot bad guys, not original, not halo-ey at all.

Would you want to have covenant for the 6th game? Even more unoriginal

7.No flood.

Flood were annoying crap brains, thank talos.

11.No scarabs.

those sucked

13.No plasma rifle, instead we have the really bad storm rifle.

I agree


I didn't answer all of them because I haven't played

[Edited on 12.04.2012 3:54 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 3:54 PM PDT

1 valid reason why it didn't.

1. Opinions.

  • 12.04.2012 3:54 PM PDT

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"Valid"...

  • 12.04.2012 3:54 PM PDT

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1/10
You're for too obvious.

  • 12.04.2012 3:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Scoopicus
1 valid reason why it didn't.

1. Opinions.


My opinions are fair good though.

  • 12.04.2012 3:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: car15

Posted by: xX ADZY Xx
valid reasons

Posted by: xX ADZY Xx
1.Elites has massive fat feet

Stopped reading.

  • 12.04.2012 3:56 PM PDT

Halo 3 is where the morons of the universe congregates.

I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

Posted by: zarrowsmith
If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.

Well thank you OP you just spoiled part of the game for me, and I was reserving judgement on it campaign, and NONE of thoses are valid reasons.

  • 12.04.2012 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: xX ADZY Xx

Posted by: Scoopicus
1 valid reason why it didn't.

1. Opinions.


My opinions are fair good though.

Well, they're really not.

But you're still entitled to them, I guess.

  • 12.04.2012 3:57 PM PDT

I was really disapoint but Brutes? Really?

  • 12.04.2012 3:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Precursor

Posted by: xX ADZY Xx
8.That bit where master chief gets a vision of some old lady and she tells him the didact's plan, it was so bad man.


That is The Librarian, have some respect.


I don't give two poo's whether it was the librarian, it was and old lady and it completely killed my halo vibe.


Just for that, you're not getting into Valhalla. Or this one either.


  • 12.04.2012 3:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Yourself 332AGN
Well thank you OP you just spoiled part of the game for me, and I was reserving judgement on it campaign, and NONE of thoses are valid reasons.


Don't worry man, it doesn't matter if i spoiled it. I have just saved you the disappointment of finding out about how bad the story is, trust.

  • 12.04.2012 3:59 PM PDT

The Game

Not going to lie, I laughed at the first reason. +10 OP.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chief never took the nuke, only the detanator. When you pick it up, it says "Nuclear Device Acquired". Plus, a football sized nuke is ridiculous.

  • 12.04.2012 4:00 PM PDT

"That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing after another, a what and a what and a what.

Now try how and why."


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Posted by: homocidalham
What do you think would have made it better?

I don't ask because I disagree with you (well, I wouldn't agree with all of it, but I think you've mentioned at least one of my biggest complaints with regards to halo 4), but because I would find it would be far more interesting and thought provoking than simply listing off stuff you hate.


It's kind of hard to explain, it's not the original halo, it's all different and it's cheesy as -blam!-. It's not got that halo feeling. It's not one thing in particular that makes it bad, the halo series has just sold out story-wise and the games i played as a kid are gone forever. You must be able to relate to this haha.


I do relate, but I find "here's my opinion" threads boring.

I've actually discussed the problems of pacing and info dumps in the game to death with a friend, but it's kind of hard for me to start such a discussion without a bit of a catalyst. It's the why, not the what, that interests me. There are a billion reasons that someone could find something bad (which is why it's so easy to come up with criticisms), but it takes effort to think how something could be better.

The reason I asked is because you at least provided a list of specific reason for why you didn't like halo 4, which is more to go on than the "OMG HALO 4 is teh CODz$!" threads that I stay away from like the plague.

  • 12.04.2012 4:02 PM PDT


Posted by: IVI1CR0S0F7
Not going to lie, I laughed at the first reason. +10 OP.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chief never took the nuke, only the detanator. When you pick it up, it says "Nuclear Device Acquired". Plus, a football sized nuke is ridiculous.


Then it would have said 'detonator acquired'? and the bit that blows up on nukes is fair small, i think

  • 12.04.2012 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: IVI1CR0S0F7
Not going to lie, I laughed at the first reason. +10 OP.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chief never took the nuke, only the detanator. When you pick it up, it says "Nuclear Device Acquired". Plus, a football sized nuke is ridiculous.

A nuclear device can still be the weapon itself.

Besides, they've used football-sized nukes in the canon before. One of the nuclear weapons in one of the books was actually described as "football-sized".

  • 12.04.2012 4:04 PM PDT

The Game


Posted by: Scoopicus

Posted by: IVI1CR0S0F7
Not going to lie, I laughed at the first reason. +10 OP.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chief never took the nuke, only the detanator. When you pick it up, it says "Nuclear Device Acquired". Plus, a football sized nuke is ridiculous.

A nuclear device can still be the weapon itself.

Besides, they've used football-sized nukes in the canon before. One of the nuclear weapons in one of the books was actually described as "football-sized".
I don't know.
When John hits the nuke, you hear the explosion before it completely fades to white.
It just doesn't make sense for him to survive, unless Cortana teleported him and the light bridge somewhere else, seeing as how it takes a few minutes before the debris surrounds them.

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Posted by: IVI1CR0S0F7

Posted by: Scoopicus

Posted by: IVI1CR0S0F7
Not going to lie, I laughed at the first reason. +10 OP.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chief never took the nuke, only the detanator. When you pick it up, it says "Nuclear Device Acquired". Plus, a football sized nuke is ridiculous.

A nuclear device can still be the weapon itself.

Besides, they've used football-sized nukes in the canon before. One of the nuclear weapons in one of the books was actually described as "football-sized".
I don't know.
When John hits the nuke, you hear the explosion before it completely fades to white.
It just doesn't make sense for him to survive, unless Cortana teleported him and the light bridge somewhere else, seeing as how it takes a few minutes before the debris surrounds them.


It was just cinematic effect. Cortana earlier said that once the nuke is detonated, "They won't have much time to escape", implying there is indeed time to escape.

There's certainly enough time for Cortana to wrap Master Chief with Hardlight.

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Ever read the lore? Explains why the elites are enemies, derpenstein.

And some of those reasons are just so stupid, I can't even begin to think for a single moment this is not a troll thread... unless you're either a) 12 or b) stupid

  • 12.04.2012 4:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rayzor1995
15.This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

  • 12.04.2012 4:26 PM PDT


Posted by: XxMuNcHmOnKeYxX
Ever read the lore? Explains why the elites are enemies, derpenstein.

And some of those reasons are just so stupid, I can't even begin to think for a single moment this is not a troll thread... unless you're either a) 12 or b) stupid


I thought people would agree with my reasons they are not stupid, they are genuine reasons that make the gampaign less enjoyable even though they are a bit opinion-ish

  • 12.04.2012 4:28 PM PDT
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