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Subject: Why doesn't Halo 4 have Armor Lock?

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  • 12.04.2012 7:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.
...Can't tell if troll...

  • 12.04.2012 7:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.

Yeah it was the best thing in Halo. Needs to come back!

  • 12.04.2012 7:39 PM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"


Posted by: THElizzard01

Posted by: MongotheRed

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf

Posted by: Atomic Tea

Posted by: Silverback Elite
Hard-light is close enough.

Doesn't stop Ghost rams.
Jump over Ghost.


The Shield still doesn't block the ghost.

Because Ghosts are sooo hard to dodge.


Irrelevant

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
...No, you... Jump over... The Ghost...


You seriously aren't understanding me?

  • 12.04.2012 7:41 PM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln

I wish armor lock was back just to see all the people who get frustrated that they can't get the Verdant visor color so easily.

  • 12.04.2012 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: DHTH777

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.
...Can't tell if troll...

No, I just never saw the big deal of having the game last a minute or two longer. But a prevalent complaint of Armor Lock was that it slowed the game down too much. Such was the heavy burden of oh so many a Reach player.

  • 12.04.2012 7:42 PM PDT

Though the morrow may be barren of promises, nothing shall forstall my return.

Way too many people complained. As it stands I find Hard light shield more powerful anyways than 343's nerfed armor lock. Used to be if you got stuck and locked up, you would be unstuck. Now there are also a lot of glitches with it where people can kill you while locked in ways that shouldn't happen. Hard light pretty much deflects anything thrown at it, all while being mobile.

  • 12.04.2012 7:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: DHTH777

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.
...Can't tell if troll...

No, I just never saw the big deal of having the game last a minute or two longer. But a prevalent complaint of Armor Lock was that it slowed the game down too much. Such was the heavy burden of oh so many a Reach player.


You're telling me that you never got angry when a player armor locked when you stuck him? Or when you were about to put the last shot of your DMR into him to kill him? Or when you shot your rocket?

  • 12.04.2012 7:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.


Posted by: MongotheRed

You seriously aren't understanding me?
Man flies over Ghost.

Sail under man like a blade.

Man needs no Armor.

  • 12.04.2012 7:45 PM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: DHTH777

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.
...Can't tell if troll...

No, I just never saw the big deal of having the game last a minute or two longer. But a prevalent complaint of Armor Lock was that it slowed the game down too much. Such was the heavy burden of oh so many a Reach player.


And yet, that is not the issue. It never was and never will be the issue. Go read the post I directed towards you.

  • 12.04.2012 7:46 PM PDT

Bones of my enemies.

Obvious troll is too obvious.

  • 12.04.2012 7:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.


Shut up already with that retarded excuse. It doesn't slow down anything. It's only slow to the idiots who sit there staring at the guy in AL like he some kind of circus side show. It's your own damn fault.


This guy ^ was dependent on armor lock to win fights

  • 12.04.2012 7:48 PM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"


Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf

Posted by: MongotheRed

You seriously aren't understanding me?
Man flies over Ghost.

Sail under man like a blade.

Man needs no Armor.


Irrelevant.

The point being made was that the HS did not replace the AL. The AL could out right block ghosts and other vehicles, while the HS does absolutely nothing to stop them. Using the fact that you can dodge the Ghost is like trying to say that all other AA's are the same as the Thruster Pack just because you can strafe to the sides without it.

  • 12.04.2012 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.


Shut up already with that retarded excuse. It doesn't slow down anything. It's only slow to the idiots who sit there staring at the guy in AL like he some kind of circus side show. It's your own damn fault.


This guy ^ was dependent on armor lock to win fights
Yes.

  • 12.04.2012 7:49 PM PDT

I make a living of selling my body, and I don't mean sex.


Posted by: MongotheRed

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf

Posted by: MongotheRed

You seriously aren't understanding me?
Man flies over Ghost.

Sail under man like a blade.

Man needs no Armor.


Irrelevant.

The point being made was that the HS did not replace the AL. The AL could out right block ghosts and other vehicles, while the HS does absolutely nothing to stop them. Using the fact that you can dodge the Ghost is like trying to say that all other AA's are the same as the Thruster Pack just because you can strafe to the sides without it.
I don't get how a shield is the same as PV or the Auto-T. I DUN UNDERSTAND>

  • 12.04.2012 7:50 PM PDT
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Because no one wanted it back... learn to play the game or accept that you suck and need to get better.

  • 12.04.2012 7:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.


Posted by: Doc Bacon

Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.


Shut up already with that retarded excuse. It doesn't slow down anything. It's only slow to the idiots who sit there staring at the guy in AL like he some kind of circus side show. It's your own damn fault.


This guy ^ was dependent on armor lock to win fights
Armor Lock in corner.

Hide away from awesome fights.

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  • 12.04.2012 7:51 PM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"


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Posted by: MongotheRed

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf

Posted by: MongotheRed

You seriously aren't understanding me?
Man flies over Ghost.

Sail under man like a blade.

Man needs no Armor.


Irrelevant.

The point being made was that the HS did not replace the AL. The AL could out right block ghosts and other vehicles, while the HS does absolutely nothing to stop them. Using the fact that you can dodge the Ghost is like trying to say that all other AA's are the same as the Thruster Pack just because you can strafe to the sides without it.
I don't get how a shield is the same as PV or the Auto-T. I DUN UNDERSTAND>


What? I never said that.

  • 12.04.2012 7:52 PM PDT

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Armor Lock isn't in Halo 4 because they were all destroyed on Reach. So were all the DMRs, but then they rebuilt them.


lol I think I've actually heard that somewhere, it would explain things canonically though

[Edited on 12.04.2012 7:54 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 7:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.


Shut up already with that retarded excuse. It doesn't slow down anything. It's only slow to the idiots who sit there staring at the guy in AL like he some kind of circus side show. It's your own damn fault.
I could see the butthurt from a mile away.

  • 12.04.2012 7:53 PM PDT

Armor Lock by nature is a weak armor abillity. Losing all mobillity to withstand an attack will always be less effective than dodging an attack by sprinting or evading, because the latter two actions remove you from the danger area and are more flexible.

It doesn't matter what gimics you try to buff it with, it's still going to be an ineffective armor abillity that serves to waste everyone's time as you kneel facedown in the dirt, praying that one of your team mates will show up to save your ass.

Bungie should have known something was wrong when there were at least ten other things that Armor Lock did besides simply shielding you from damage. If you have to make an abillity complicated and give it a ton of side features in an attempt to make it useful to players, then that abillity doesn't belong in the game.

  • 12.04.2012 7:56 PM PDT

Wait 4 Halo 4.


Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

  • 12.04.2012 7:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: MongotheRed

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.


It's not about how long the game takes. In fact, I would prefer if 343 extended the time limit and point limit in Halo 4 matchmaking. No, it's not about that. It's about the pace of the game.


Pace of the game was still the same.
Someone AL, use the time to reload or check your peripherals, same as if they went into a room you knew they had teammates in. Slow your roll for a bit, then go ahead.


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Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: DHTH777

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.
...Can't tell if troll...

No, I just never saw the big deal of having the game last a minute or two longer. But a prevalent complaint of Armor Lock was that it slowed the game down too much. Such was the heavy burden of oh so many a Reach player.


You're telling me that you never got angry when a player armor locked when you stuck him? Or when you were about to put the last shot of your DMR into him to kill him? Or when you shot your rocket?


No.
I used the time to reload, or I'd wait it out and time it, so right before they popped out of it, I'd throw grenades at their feet.

And if I shot my rocket and they AL'd, I just looked at it as the same if I shot someone without AL and I missed. I never saw the big deal and I never will.

  • 12.04.2012 7:58 PM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"


Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: MongotheRed
Because Armor Lock was a terrible idea and slowed the game down by a considerable amount.

Oh the humanity of having a game last a few minutes longer, if that.


It's not about how long the game takes. In fact, I would prefer if 343 extended the time limit and point limit in Halo 4 matchmaking. No, it's not about that. It's about the pace of the game.


Pace of the game was still the same.
Someone AL, use the time to reload or check your peripherals, same as if they went into a room you knew they had teammates in. Slow your roll for a bit, then go ahead.


Which was slowing the game. And it might have felt like it was the same, because Armor lock was always in the game.

What you can do against Armor Lock is irrelevant, because that is not what we are talking about.

[Edited on 12.04.2012 8:01 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2012 8:00 PM PDT

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  • 12.04.2012 8:00 PM PDT

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