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Subject: Why is REACH always held to such low regard?

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I hate Reach because I didn't find it fun. Which at the end of the day, is why we all play video games.

  • 12.05.2012 4:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSapphire
I hate Reach because I didn't find it fun. Which at the end of the day, is why we all play video games.


This is the main thing to remember, if you don't enjoy something then you won't play it.

You shouldn't have to explain yourself.

  • 12.05.2012 4:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSapphire
I hate Reach because I didn't find it fun. Which at the end of the day, is why we all play video games.


This is the main thing to remember, if you don't enjoy something then you won't play it.

You shouldn't have to explain yourself.

Something that everyone here forgets all too often, with their newfangled "ranks" to get "invested in the game".

  • 12.05.2012 4:38 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Pretty awful and forgettable campaign, and people are varied on their hate for the multiplayer.

  • 12.05.2012 4:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Make117
Banshee was OP


Teh puma agrees with everything on the list, except this. The banshee was made of paper in that game.

  • 12.05.2012 4:47 AM PDT

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People complain about armor lock and bloom and jetpacks and stuff like it totally threw the Halo formula out the window! Halo 4 is what threw it out the freaking atmosphere, yet people accept it. Ordinance and classes completly destroyed the whole premise of map design. All the maps are stupidly made now. Nothing resembles a halo map other than Ragnorok for obvious reasons.

And weapons don't even bother spawning on the map cause you can call them at will! I -blam!- hate the CODification of Halo 4.

  • 12.05.2012 6:34 AM PDT
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Way to generalize everyone. I dislike Reach, I dislike Halo 4.

  • 12.05.2012 6:35 AM PDT
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  • 12.05.2012 6:36 AM PDT

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Because of all the Halo's it is regarded by the majority as being the least enjoyable. Still a good game though.

  • 12.05.2012 6:38 AM PDT

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I myself hate Halo Reach due to all of the things that are wrong with it. I could make a giant list on what's wrong with Halo Reach, but instead I'll just say that I hate Halo Reach mainly because a lot of the game mechanics in Halo Reach weren't implemented properly (like armor abilities).

  • 12.05.2012 6:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: TheUseless0ne
Because people don't like varied, interesting, and balanced gameplay.

^This.

Reach was the pinnacle of Halo. Most of the reason others didn't like it was because it didn't have BR or because it had bloom. Two of the reason I liked it better than the previous titles.

  • 12.05.2012 7:15 AM PDT

@make117
-broke map control: halo 4 has no map control
-maps were mostly terrible: halo 4 maps are terrible
-DMR: halo 4 DMR is OP
-sniper basically had auto aim: halo 4 is even easier
-deserted open areas: im sorry but halo 4 is 10X worse when it is about to big maps
-campaign missions were basically run here press this button: halo 4 is worse with buttons n stuf

it is funny because it kinda looks like u are describing halo 4 to me

  • 12.05.2012 7:22 AM PDT

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Because of one or two things that someone didn't like that really weren't that bad, that everyone else decided to join the hate bandwagon for.

  • 12.05.2012 7:28 AM PDT

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I don't know. As much as people -blam!- about it being the start of Halo 4, there is a very important distinction. Reach never spawned anyone with an ability or weapon unequal to what was available to the opposing team. Armor lock was annoying at first, but after I learned not to get in close range of an armor locker, it was never any serious hindrance. I really disliked Sword Base, and felt that the Ascension and Ivory Tower remakes never really worked in the new game. SO, 4v4 maps weren't very strong at the start. On the other hand, I enjoyed Sanctuary, Zealot, Boardwalk, and Caged.

I think the biggest issue was DMR bloom. It could have used a nerf earlier. To me, that wasn't a huge deal, but there are a few times it became obviously annoying. Reach was the first full Halo game after the MS/Bungie split. That caused support issues. Bungie was contracted to make the game, one map pack, and provide initial stats, file hosting, and MM sustain. MS owned the game and was responsible for any title updates. Because MS was a bit slow in turning 343 into an actual studio, there was a huge lapse in game support that angered a lot of people, where DMR bloom tweak and the armor lock nerf could have come much sooner.

But, despite those issues, I thought it was a solid game. Don't think I'll ever log as many hours in any game as I did Halo 3, but Reach is definitely second. I especially enjoyed the first map pack and the addition of the squad slayer list. 6v6 and 5v5 on Tempest was amazing.

  • 12.05.2012 7:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: Endoterrik 13
Reach was the pinnacle of Halo.
lmao

  • 12.05.2012 7:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: devilmaster13
@make117
-broke map control: halo 4 has no map control
-maps were mostly terrible: halo 4 maps are terrible
-DMR: halo 4 DMR is OP
-sniper basically had auto aim: halo 4 is even easier
-deserted open areas: im sorry but halo 4 is 10X worse when it is about to big maps
-campaign missions were basically run here press this button: halo 4 is worse with buttons n stuf

it is funny because it kinda looks like u are describing halo 4 to me
May bad, seems that I didn't understand the OP: I didn't compare Reach to Halo 4.

  • 12.05.2012 7:37 AM PDT

It was different and those people didnt like the changes. Its not that they were bad they just weren't what they wanted. I really like Reach.

  • 12.05.2012 7:41 AM PDT

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Havn't played H4 so i cannot speak on that, but I disliked reach and the overall atmosphere and feel of both campaign and (especially) multiplayer.

I also found the gameplay to be too slow, even for a Halo game.

  • 12.05.2012 7:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Endoterrik 13
Reach was the pinnacle of Halo.
lmao

I understand some find that laughable, but I preferred it the most. The Warthog was actually useable and without everyone starting with PP and Stickies (Halo 4) you could actually be an asset in the 'Hog.

  • 12.05.2012 7:42 AM PDT

I didn't mind it. I'd take Reach over H4 any day.

  • 12.05.2012 7:42 AM PDT

I like it a lot. I like Halo 4 even more. You just get these people nitpicking at things and talking about how disastrous everything is regardless of how good the overall gameplay is.

This is what the community has devolved into. It used to be about having fun. Now it's about nitpicking every detail that people who take games way too seriously can think of.

  • 12.05.2012 7:46 AM PDT

Everything you know is wrong.

I liked Reach. The campaign could've been more dark and there should've been more missions where you were fighting alone. Lone Wolf was basically what Reach should've felt like midway through the campaign, and a needed longer campaign at that.

Yes, AL was horrible and annoying. All armor abilities should have been pick ups like equipment, other than sprint.

Bloom bothered me for about a month. I just became a more distant and patient shooter, which both aided in close to mid-range combat.

I honestly think the one thing that may have been the silent killer for Reach was map selection and the voting system. BTB quickly became Big Team Hemorrhage or Community Maps. The redundancy in Reach really destroyed the game and the only playlist where I could play on varied maps was in Multiteam. Reach should've carried the veto system. It was just and there was less quitting. Honestly, I did quit a lot because of constant Hemorrhage voting in favor of objective game types, mainly assault.

Not all of Reach's maps were terrible. I liked Boneyard. The DLC is fresh. There are some really bad Reach maps, but the DLC maps should've been incorporated into the disc content. I honestly think the DLC was pretty good. Not great like 3 or 2, but good.

I haven't played much Halo 4. I don't really like it that much. All the weapons kind of sound alike, and at times wimpy. I don't like all the -blam!- perks and drops. 343i Should've reintroduced the GL though. That weapon was the best thing to come out of Reach.

[Edited on 12.05.2012 8:01 AM PST]

  • 12.05.2012 8:00 AM PDT

Posted by: burritosenior
I like it a lot. I like Halo 4 even more. You just get these people nitpicking at things and talking about how disastrous everything is regardless of how good the overall gameplay is.

This is what the community has devolved into. It used to be about having fun. Now it's about nitpicking every detail that people who take games way too seriously can think of.

The Halo Community is easily one of the worst, their mindless rambling is actually starting to make me dislike the Flood.

  • 12.05.2012 8:03 AM PDT
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The campaign pretty much set up the crap parts of Halo's lore that have come out recently, and trashed the original novels and their canon.

The multiplayer was a retardfest with no redeeming qualities.

I'll leave it at that.

  • 12.05.2012 8:03 AM PDT

Posted by: GrandmasterNinja
I never understood this, why do you all HATE REACH with soo much passion? I've played the game, thought it was awesome, and thought I'd find others with the same opinion as I do for the game, and was shocked to the overwhelming amount of people hating it.

And then Halo 4 comes out and a lot of people...LOVE it, even say that it was better than all previous predeccesors?! I just wonder why this is the case. Please help me understand the reason behind the hate of the REACH from the Flood.
You're assuming that we are at a consensus that we all hate Reach but like Halo 4. I can assure you that quite a few of us dislike both Reach and Halo 4 for different reasons.

Posted by: burritosenior
I like it a lot. I like Halo 4 even more. You just get these people nitpicking at things and talking about how disastrous everything is regardless of how good the overall gameplay is.
What if we don't believe that the overall gameplay is good?

This is what the community has devolved into. It used to be about having fun. Now it's about nitpicking every detail that people who take games way too seriously can think of.Perhaps you just don't have nearly as much passion for gaming as the rest of us do? I wouldn't call that a devolution at all. Nor is it bad that you aren't interested in delving deeper into game design, just don't knock those of us who do, regardless of how uncivil some people get while doing it.

[Edited on 12.05.2012 8:09 AM PST]

  • 12.05.2012 8:03 AM PDT