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Subject: Didact vs. Starkiller (fight)

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  • 12.05.2012 12:54 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Starkiller probably would win, only if someone can answer a simple question: what's he going to do when Didact waves his hand and paralyzes him?

Don't get me wrong, I easily see how SK would win this, but that question remains.
Starwars fans can ask the very same question back. Only difference is that Galen would know where the Didact is just by Intuition and probably grab him first.


You can still move in Force Grapple, and Force grip. Only once have I ever seen a Force power get used without a physical gesture, in Episode 5, by Vader. But what is preventing the Didact from waving his hand and vaporizing Starkiller with his in-built suit weapons?
Lightsaber thrown towards him? Light the bastard up? Push him into a wall over and over? Probably no single soldier in Halo can defeat Starkiller. I think.

  • 12.05.2012 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Starkiller probably would win, only if someone can answer a simple question: what's he going to do when Didact waves his hand and paralyzes him?

Don't get me wrong, I easily see how SK would win this, but that question remains.
Starwars fans can ask the very same question back. Only difference is that Galen would know where the Didact is just by Intuition and probably grab him first.


You can still move in Force Grapple, and Force grip. Only once have I ever seen a Force power get used without a physical gesture, in Episode 5, by Vader. But what is preventing the Didact from waving his hand and vaporizing Starkiller with his in-built suit weapons?
Lightsaber thrown towards him? Light the bastard up? Push him into a wall over and over? Probably no single soldier in Halo can defeat Starkiller. I think.
No single army in Halo could defeat Starkiller.

  • 12.05.2012 12:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Starkiller probably would win, only if someone can answer a simple question: what's he going to do when Didact waves his hand and paralyzes him?

Don't get me wrong, I easily see how SK would win this, but that question remains.
Starwars fans can ask the very same question back. Only difference is that Galen would know where the Didact is just by Intuition and probably grab him first.


You can still move in Force Grapple, and Force grip. Only once have I ever seen a Force power get used without a physical gesture, in Episode 5, by Vader. But what is preventing the Didact from waving his hand and vaporizing Starkiller with his in-built suit weapons?
Lightsaber thrown towards him? Light the bastard up? Push him into a wall over and over? Probably no single soldier in Halo can defeat Starkiller. I think.
No single army in Halo could defeat Starkiller.


Doubtful, but we get the point. xD

[Edited on 12.05.2012 1:01 PM PST]

  • 12.05.2012 1:00 PM PDT


Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Starkiller probably would win, only if someone can answer a simple question: what's he going to do when Didact waves his hand and paralyzes him?

Don't get me wrong, I easily see how SK would win this, but that question remains.
Starwars fans can ask the very same question back. Only difference is that Galen would know where the Didact is just by Intuition and probably grab him first.


You can still move in Force Grapple, and Force grip. Only once have I ever seen a Force power get used without a physical gesture, in Episode 5, by Vader. But what is preventing the Didact from waving his hand and vaporizing Starkiller with his in-built suit weapons?
Lightsaber thrown towards him? Light the bastard up? Push him into a wall over and over? Probably no single soldier in Halo can defeat Starkiller. I think.
No single army in Halo could defeat Starkiller.
They could with ease. I'm a HUGE starwars fanboy but I can't deny that a army could defeat him. Maybe a big one and all at once but still.

  • 12.05.2012 1:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Chelloz THE one
He moves? That's what I think most of them would have done. How does a forerunner protect against a lightsaber being hurled towards them?


Hard light shields mixed with Forerunner adamantium. The Didact is not as slow as a human, by a long shot. He's been given gene augments far more advanced than the Chief's at least 5 times. Couple that with the suit and you have a lightning bruiser. He can also fly, and possesses a suit capable of allowing him to survive in involuntary slipspace (a place that can erase entire ships from history just for going a few degrees in the wrong direction). All of this mixed with the fact that if he waves his hands, you're completely useless.

He'd follow through by vaporizing him. People often conveniently forget that the only reason Didact lost to the Chief was because he was shackled by hard light, and was planted with a Forerunner grenade.

Of course Starkiller could also use some crazy Force powers and obliterate him--no one's doubting Starkiller is more powerful. But the Didact paralyzes his enemies before doing anything else. Starkiller's first instinct on the other hand is to use his lightsaber, or some overpowered Force Push, nothing devestating like Crush; I don't even know if he can use Crush.

He's more powerful, but Didact's more efficient, and that's the key.

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the Didact vs this...

To be honest, I don't think there is any combination of forces, save the Halo array, that could stop him.

  • 12.05.2012 1:09 PM PDT


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Posted by: Chelloz THE one
He moves? That's what I think most of them would have done. How does a forerunner protect against a lightsaber being hurled towards them?


Hard light shields mixed with Forerunner adamantium. The Didact is not as slow as a human, by a long shot. He's been given gene augments far more advanced than the Chief's at least 5 times. Couple that with the suit and you have a lightning bruiser. He can also fly, and possesses a suit capable of allowing him to survive in involuntary slipspace (a place that can erase entire ships from history just for going a few degrees in the wrong direction). All of this mixed with the fact that if he waves his hands, you're completely useless.

He'd follow through by vaporizing him. People often conveniently forget that the only reason Didact lost to the Chief was because he was shackled by hard light, and was planted with a Forerunner grenade.

Of course Starkiller could also use some crazy Force powers and obliterate him--no one's doubting Starkiller is more powerful. But the Didact paralyzes his enemies before doing anything else. Starkiller's first instinct on the other hand is to use his lightsaber, or some overpowered Force Push, nothing devestating like Crush; I don't even know if he can use Crush.

He's more powerful, but Didact's more efficient, and that's the key.
I'm sorry that you and I usually get into these debates and again sorry for my stubbornness but I don't see any possible way for the Didact to win. Galen will sense the fight before its even started.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
He'd follow through by vaporizing him. People often conveniently forget that the only reason Didact lost to the Chief was because he was shackled by hard light, and was planted with a Forerunner grenade.


And sk couldn't, you know, just force hold the didacts arms down?

  • 12.05.2012 1:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Chelloz THE one

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Chelloz THE one
He moves? That's what I think most of them would have done. How does a forerunner protect against a lightsaber being hurled towards them?


Hard light shields mixed with Forerunner adamantium. The Didact is not as slow as a human, by a long shot. He's been given gene augments far more advanced than the Chief's at least 5 times. Couple that with the suit and you have a lightning bruiser. He can also fly, and possesses a suit capable of allowing him to survive in involuntary slipspace (a place that can erase entire ships from history just for going a few degrees in the wrong direction). All of this mixed with the fact that if he waves his hands, you're completely useless.

He'd follow through by vaporizing him. People often conveniently forget that the only reason Didact lost to the Chief was because he was shackled by hard light, and was planted with a Forerunner grenade.

Of course Starkiller could also use some crazy Force powers and obliterate him--no one's doubting Starkiller is more powerful. But the Didact paralyzes his enemies before doing anything else. Starkiller's first instinct on the other hand is to use his lightsaber, or some overpowered Force Push, nothing devestating like Crush; I don't even know if he can use Crush.

He's more powerful, but Didact's more efficient, and that's the key.
I'm sorry that you and I usually get into these debates and again sorry for my stubbornness but I don't see any possible way for the Didact to win. Galen will sense the fight before its even started.


I'm not doubting he could win, I'm merely saying that the Didact would be an enemy unlike anything he's faced before.

Consider his advantages:

--Superhuman strength an speed far beyond even a fully armored Spartan

--Considered the greatest tactician of the Forerunner military, a race of already supergeniuses.

--Paralyzing telekenesis

--Can evidently dissolve object just by looking at them, judging from John's cover in his first cutscene.

--He can fly.

--Has armor that is strong enough both in structure and shielding to survive slipspace, meaning his shields are as strong as a starship's.

--Has built-in energy weapons in his armor he fires out of his hands like Iron Man (cite: Crumptum). Since these are Light weapons, they'd ignore the plasma blade of a lightsaber. Since they're beam weapons, even if Starkiller dodges the initial blast, Didact needs only to sweep him and cut him in half from a distance.

^^Force Grapple and Choke both do not prevent movement, and since Didact can fly, he wouldn't find it difficult to manage under grapple. When have you ever seen Starkiller do that? Or any Jedi, really.

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Starkiller drops a spaceship on him.

  • 12.05.2012 1:24 PM PDT

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Starkiller drops a spaceship on him.
I guess when a Halo fan boy starts talking about Didact's Force Grip this should come up. You are correct.

STARKILLER PULLED A STAR DESTROYER OUT OF ORBIT AND CRASHED IT.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I'm not doubting he could win, I'm merely saying that the Didact would be ann enemy unlike anything he's faced before.

Consider his advantages:

--Superhuman strength ans speed far beyond even a fully armored Spartan


When has he demonstrated this?

--Considered the greatest tactician of the Forerunner military, a race of already supergeniuses.

The forerunners were technologically brilliant, and didn't appear to demonstrate any intelligence beyond that.

--Paralyzing telekenesis

Yes. This could just be him paralyzing John's suit, but yeah, I'll give you that.

--Can evidently dissolve object just by looking at them, judging from John's cover in his first cutscene.

I thought that was only for forerunner objects?

--He can fly.

Indeed.

--Has armor that is strong enough both in structure and shielding to survive slipspace, meaning his shields are as strong as a starship's.

I don't think it's a matter of how strong your protection is but what kind of protection. And we don't know if he survived the endgame (and don't you dare give me that 'we heard him talking' crap.)

--Has built-in energy weapons in his armor he fires out of his hands like Iron Man (cite: Crumptum). Since these are Light weapons, they'd ignore the plasma blade of a lightsaber. Since they're beam weapons, even if Starkiller dodges the initial blast, Didact needs only to sweep him and cut him in half from a distance.

Does he still have these?

^^Force Grapple and Choke both do not prevent movement, and since Didact can fly, he wouldn't find it difficult to manage under grapple. When have you ever seen Starkiller do that? Or any Jedi, really.

Or Starkiller could just drop a spaceship on him.

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the Didact vs this...

Dat force disintegration.

  • 12.05.2012 1:40 PM PDT

Starkiller, easily.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
^^Force Grapple and Choke both do not prevent movement, and since Didact can fly, he wouldn't find it difficult to manage under grapple. When have you ever seen Starkiller do that? Or any Jedi, really.


Force Stasis.

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People keep saying Starkiller could just drop a starship on him. If i remember correctly, it took him like 5 minutes to pull it down. In that time, the Didact could kill him plenty of times.

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People keep saying Starkiller could just drop a starship on him. If i remember correctly, it took him like 5 minutes to pull it down. In that time, the Didact could kill him plenty of times.
He was fighting TIE Fighters while he did it. Its not like he just stood there doing nothing.

  • 12.05.2012 1:46 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2012 1:49 PM PDT
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Starkiller is OP for the Star Wars universe IMO. He he was just created so that little neckbeards losers think the force is anything more than that was portrayed within the movies.


Somebody hasn't read the expanded universe.

Starkiller.

The Didact loses in every category.
Not in strategy, planning and Intelligence. Who the hell is awakened from a 100,000 year slumber and comes up with a plan to attack Earth within a week AND suceeds?

That's pretty impressive if you ask me. Not to mention I doubt you can block Light Technology.

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People keep saying Starkiller could just drop a starship on him. If i remember correctly, it took him like 5 minutes to pull it down. In that time, the Didact could kill him plenty of times.
He was fighting TIE Fighters while he did it. Its not like he just stood there doing nothing.
Even when he is focused just on bringing the ship down, it moves so slow. Link to video . If he tried to do that with to the Didact, he wouldnt be able to pull it down before he was killed.

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People keep saying Starkiller could just drop a starship on him. If i remember correctly, it took him like 5 minutes to pull it down. In that time, the Didact could kill him plenty of times.
He was fighting TIE Fighters while he did it. Its not like he just stood there doing nothing.
Even when he is focused just on bringing the ship down, it moves so slow. Link to video . If he tried to do that with to the Didact, he wouldnt be able to pull it down before he was killed.


The point of the matter is that Starkiller didn't just stand there while bringing the ship down. He was able to fight TIE's while doing it. SO, when the lolDidact were to attack, he would fight him while still bringing the ship on him.

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Starkiller is OP for the Star Wars universe IMO. He he was just created so that little neckbeards losers think the force is anything more than that was portrayed within the movies.


Somebody hasn't read the expanded universe.

Starkiller.

The Didact loses in every category.
Not in strategy, planning and Intelligence. Who the hell is awakened from a 100,000 year slumber and comes up with a plan to attack Earth within a week AND suceeds?

That's pretty impressive if you ask me. Not to mention I doubt you can block Light Technology.


Given he had technology thousands of years more advanced including a superweapon that digitizes people and the fact that nobody on Earth had any bloody clue he was coming, no, it's not that impressive.

And couldn't Starkiller just use the Force to see Didact as soon as he was about to shoot him and cut Didact's arm off or something? I thought Jedi could see into the future?

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People keep saying Starkiller could just drop a starship on him. If i remember correctly, it took him like 5 minutes to pull it down. In that time, the Didact could kill him plenty of times.
He was fighting TIE Fighters while he did it. Its not like he just stood there doing nothing.
Even when he is focused just on bringing the ship down, it moves so slow. Link to video . If he tried to do that with to the Didact, he wouldnt be able to pull it down before he was killed.


The point of the matter is that Starkiller didn't just stand there while bringing the ship down. He was able to fight TIE's while doing it. SO, when the lolDidact were to attack, he would fight him while still bringing the ship on him.
But he couldnt do both at the same time. He was either fighting the TIEs or bringing down the ship. So he could either fight the Didact 1 on 1, or hope to bring the ship down before the Didact can kill him.

  • 12.05.2012 2:15 PM PDT

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