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  • Subject: How to fix the DMR in Halo 4.
Subject: How to fix the DMR in Halo 4.

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.

To say the DMR is OP in Halo 4 isn't accurate. The problem with the DMR is that it is to good in too many niches. At CQC, it stands almost toe-to-toe with the AR. At Medium range, it is on par with the BR, and a long range, it has no equal.

Because of that, there is no advantage to picking the BR or Carbine. Why use the BR when the DMR can do everything the BR can, plus dominate CQC?

So how do you fix this?

Simple. Reduce the RoF on the DMR. Just enough to where the BR has the advantage at Medium range, and the DMR is crap at CQC.

This will also make each spawning weapon have a range it is dominate in, a range it performs decently at, and a range where it is not ideal at all.

  • 12.05.2012 1:01 PM PDT

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Same thing I suggest, it already has range, power and accuracy, it doesn't need the RoF it has now, if its lowered it'll be niched to the longer ranges it's intended for. It's a marksman rifle after all.

  • 12.05.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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CC needs a little buff.

  • 12.05.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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RoF is fine.

  • 12.05.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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just saying, I beat the dmr with an AR in everything but long range engagements. But yeah, I like this idea, less DMR -blam!-s would mean more variety.

also this
Posted by: IslocStarkiller
CC needs a little buff.


[Edited on 12.05.2012 1:05 PM PST]

  • 12.05.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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The rifles are fine. The boltshot needs to be nerfed. I don't understand why people aren't raging about that OP game ruiner.

  • 12.05.2012 1:05 PM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.


Posted by: A Billfish
RoF is fine.
No. It makes the gun just as good at the BR.

The DMR should focus more on steady, accurate shots as opposed to the BR's flurry of shots, or the ARs constant stream of shots.

In general, the sandbox works like this with the exception of the DMR: the closer the range, the more shots fired. Long range is about slow, accurate shots where as CQC is all about rapid fire.

  • 12.05.2012 1:06 PM PDT

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Yes, it needs to be lowered.

  • 12.05.2012 1:07 PM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.


Posted by: mityman50
The rifles are fine. The boltshot needs to be nerfed. I don't understand why people aren't raging about that OP game ruiner.
Yes, boltshot shouldn't be a 1SK, but the fact is, while the DMR isn't OP, it is the best rifle.

You seriously cannot argue against that, unless you want to try to make the case with the LR. Either way, there isn't a single advantage the BR has that the DMR doesn't.

  • 12.05.2012 1:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cortland_Brewer

Posted by: mityman50
The rifles are fine. The boltshot needs to be nerfed. I don't understand why people aren't raging about that OP game ruiner.
Yes, boltshot shouldn't be a 1SK, but the fact is, while the DMR isn't OP, it is the best rifle.

You seriously cannot argue against that, unless you want to try to make the case with the LR. Either way, there isn't a single advantage the BR has that the DMR doesn't.

Yeah, this is true. I was happy to see the BR back; it was easily the weapon I was most proficient with in H3. I think I used it for literally a minute in H4 and dropped it. DMR ever since.

But I do have to disagree when you say it's effective at close range, too. Maybe like mid to kinda short, but if you've got a good strafe, no DMR can touch you at short range. An AR wielder with a good strafe would dominate.

  • 12.05.2012 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
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LR is the long range rifle, not the DMR. If the DMR was like the TU Reach DMR, then it'd be fine since it's have to slow down for bloom to get a 1.7 second KT. Keep the ROF, add quick resetting bloom back to the DMR. Also, lower the DMR's body shot damage since a lot of long range kills Alain the DMR are just from body shots.
Posted by: mityman50
The rifles are fine. The boltshot needs to be nerfed. I don't understand why people aren't raging about that OP game ruiner.
Boltshot is constantly talked about on WP.

[Edited on 12.05.2012 1:21 PM PST]

  • 12.05.2012 1:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: mityman50
The rifles are fine. The boltshot needs to be nerfed. I don't understand why people aren't raging about that OP game ruiner.
Boltshot is constantly talked about on WP.

Have they given a reason as to why they haven't done anything about it yet?

  • 12.05.2012 1:23 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

I never see anybody use the Carbine. Does it have any slight advantage over any of the rifles?

  • 12.05.2012 1:27 PM PDT