- MongotheRed
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- Honorable Legendary Member
You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"
Posted by: Chuck berry22
Posted by: MongotheRed
Posted by: Chuck berry22
Posted by: MongotheRed
Posted by: Chuck berry22
But the universe and time is never-ending. You define an "end" by a human made notion that justifies biological occurrence.
Numbers and math given their structural purpose of management are nothing but infinite theory imposed on the observable world or tangible items. Pi never ends.
Your human bias gets in the way of defining progress and ties into the hunter gatherer you truly are.
The hunt is not complete until the kill, but you will have to hunt again won't you?
Who's to say what the end is supposed to be? Merely saying that time is never-ending is not a good way to respond to his post. That's like saying that we never work towards any single goals. The truth is, he is correct.You contradict yourself... you say- Who's to say what the end is supposed to be? How can you have a goal if we know no end, and what relevance is it to the universe if you complete that goal? What impact on the species would it have beyond satisfying your need to hunt and gather. Formulate solutions to puzzles you observe. If the puzzle never ends what use is to say we have made progress?
You are taking this too deeply. We work to attain something in everything we do, regardless of whether you want to admit it or not. We always have goals and we don't always know what the end will be. You have to remember, OP, that the "end" for progress can be progressive as well. How do you think anything gets done? We set a goal and we accomplish it. Which is progress. (Ex. Traveling to the moon.}I still don't see how even traveling to the moon is progress.
It seems that we can justify progress as long as we keep building software (technology) to be operated by our hardware (Human body)
Remember the software we accumulate uses energy, matter, etc to compose itself. We have to destroy before we can create. The 21st century tends to forget that everything around you, the things we take for granted, derived originally from the resource of our planet. In that case, we'd have to be able to make our own resources to have real progress. Create nothing out of nothing; If we can't do that, then we are simply always having a negative equation of resource relocation.
Another possibility for real progress is to update our hardware. Stem cell research treads upon the idea, but it actually is only replication and not re-imagination.
What about genetic modification? Will we be able to upgrade our hardware that way?
I think you take this all a bit too lightly and don't understand or refuse to acknowledge that everything you do during life has cause and effect. Your place here and decisions will carry on through time and space and compound through generations. This is why I say its hard for our species to set long term goals.
The getting to the moon was the goal and was also progress. I don't know why you aren't understanding this. Maybe you are just over complicating things.
Look. Progress is, simply, advancement towards a goal. We don't necessarily have to know about the goal or even that it is there, but everything we do to get to that goal is progress.
Also: Most of your post was irrelevant. I'd advise you to collect your thoughts a little more before posting. Like resource relocation. And my knowledge of cause and effect. And the fact that what we do here will carry throughout time and space.
And who says that goals have to be set in stone anyways? Our goals and our progress change constantly. And, if you want to take it like this, everything we every do is technically progress, as even us just living is helping to advance our goals, whatever they may be.