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Subject: Your opinion on Camo Sniping in halo 4?

I like Halo: Reach. I think its a fun game. What i DON'T like about it is that the maps such as SwordBase is terrible. I don't hate armor lock, but i can say it can sometimes get annoying. Bloom doesn't bother me either.


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
Ever played Ragnarok? Ever tried taking out the sniper on the blue side near that rock? Its on the left side of the base if your looking towards the red base at the water fall. It ain't easy trying to take out the camo sniper when there are a lot of guys backing him up in that one area in BTB.

So you are now -blam!-ing that you can't aim well enough to kill the guy? I hate to tell you, but if he can snipe you then you can shoot and kill him. It really doesn't matter how many people are with him if you aim solely for him then he will die it is that simple. Now there are some other things you could do to increase those odds like teamshot if you suck that much.

How can we team shot when no one in BTB ever have mics? Theres also a lot of cover for that camo sniper. I could get 4 shots on him and he'd go back into hiding, and wait for his shields to recover, and then it repeats.

  • 12.06.2012 1:51 AM PDT
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Halo 4 is terrible.

>Goes and plays Black Ops 2.

  • 12.06.2012 1:52 AM PDT

Different Perspective


Posted by: It Will Be Done
Halo 4 is terrible.

>Goes and plays Black Ops 2.


They took Infinity Ward's hit detection and put it in Halo 4. I get two hitmarkers on a guy and am sniped. I watch the killcam...it didn't show me firing or him getting hit. Lag and hit detection is terrible in this game. Almost as bad as MW2.

  • 12.06.2012 1:54 AM PDT


Posted by: Tippied
How can we team shot when no one in BTB ever have mics? Theres also a lot of cover for that camo sniper. I could get 4 shots on him and he'd go back into hiding, and wait for his shields to recover, and then it repeats.

It is called having friends I know that might be a hard concept to understand, but they tend to help you to some degree. Though even without them it is called being better than the other team by being good at the game instead of complaining.

  • 12.06.2012 1:55 AM PDT

Different Perspective


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
How can we team shot when no one in BTB ever have mics? Theres also a lot of cover for that camo sniper. I could get 4 shots on him and he'd go back into hiding, and wait for his shields to recover, and then it repeats.

It is called having friends I know that might be a hard concept to understand, but they tend to help you to some degree. Though even without them it is called being better than the other team by being good at the game instead of complaining.


Some players like myself prefer to go in alone.

  • 12.06.2012 1:56 AM PDT

Mreh.


Posted by: Tippied

How can we team shot when no one in BTB ever have mics? Theres also a lot of cover for that camo sniper. I could get 4 shots on him and he'd go back into hiding, and wait for his shields to recover, and then it repeats.


It seems that the issue isn't camouflage, but cover. In that case, I'd suggest you get a bigger gun. Not exactly difficult in Halo 4.

  • 12.06.2012 1:57 AM PDT


Posted by: It Will Be Done
Halo 4 is terrible.

>Goes and plays Black Ops 2.
Yes the best game on the market I agree.

  • 12.06.2012 1:57 AM PDT

Bad players. Thats what a camo sniper is.

All of the ones I've met get owned pretty bad when I get close to them and they actually have to use their DMR / BR and try to stay alive. Their attempts are futile lol

  • 12.06.2012 1:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Altered Vista
Some players like myself prefer to go in alone.

Going in alone at times is more helpful than going in with friends, but I was just saying the OP is complaining about something that really is all on him and his skill level not an issue with the game.

  • 12.06.2012 2:00 AM PDT

I like Halo: Reach. I think its a fun game. What i DON'T like about it is that the maps such as SwordBase is terrible. I don't hate armor lock, but i can say it can sometimes get annoying. Bloom doesn't bother me either.


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
How can we team shot when no one in BTB ever have mics? Theres also a lot of cover for that camo sniper. I could get 4 shots on him and he'd go back into hiding, and wait for his shields to recover, and then it repeats.

It is called having friends I know that might be a hard concept to understand, but they tend to help you to some degree. Though even without them it is called being better than the other team by being good at the game instead of complaining.

It ain't a hard concept to understand. They're all playing Black Ops 2. Also I am good at the game. I just wanted to see if there were other people who agreed with me also, and I'm going to keep complaining.

  • 12.06.2012 2:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
Ever played Ragnarok? Ever tried taking out the sniper on the blue side near that rock? Its on the left side of the base if your looking towards the red base at the water fall. It ain't easy trying to take out the camo sniper when there are a lot of guys backing him up in that one area in BTB.

So you are now -blam!-ing that you can't aim well enough to kill the guy? I hate to tell you, but if he can snipe you then you can shoot and kill him. It really doesn't matter how many people are with him if you aim solely for him then he will die it is that simple. Now there are some other things you could do to increase those odds like teamshot if you suck that much.


Wow.

You have to be trolling. You just have to be.

  • 12.06.2012 2:04 AM PDT


Posted by: Tippied
It ain't a hard concept to understand. They're all playing Black Ops 2. Also I am good at the game. I just wanted to see if there were other people who agreed with me also, and I'm going to keep complaining.

Seriously you aren't good enough if you are -blam!-ing about campers in 2012.

  • 12.06.2012 2:11 AM PDT


Posted by: jEEborz
Wow.

You have to be trolling. You just have to be.

How so all of what I have said is true? Everyone deals with campers and if you choose to complain about them then that just means you either don't know how to counter their pathetic strategy and/or you suck at the game.

  • 12.06.2012 2:13 AM PDT

I like Halo: Reach. I think its a fun game. What i DON'T like about it is that the maps such as SwordBase is terrible. I don't hate armor lock, but i can say it can sometimes get annoying. Bloom doesn't bother me either.


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
It ain't a hard concept to understand. They're all playing Black Ops 2. Also I am good at the game. I just wanted to see if there were other people who agreed with me also, and I'm going to keep complaining.

Seriously you aren't good enough if you are -blam!-ing about campers in 2012.

Oh yeah? Tell me then, What is a good enough player in 2012.

  • 12.06.2012 2:17 AM PDT


Posted by: Tippied
Oh yeah? Tell me then, What is a good enough player in 2012.

You know the ones that actually kill them instead of complaining about them. Also the whole 2012 thing is regarding how people have been complaining about campers for years and guess what they are still people that camp because it works.

  • 12.06.2012 2:18 AM PDT

Remember Elk

Play planetside 2, you can't use guns, grenades or even your knife while in camo as a sniper.

  • 12.06.2012 2:21 AM PDT

I like Halo: Reach. I think its a fun game. What i DON'T like about it is that the maps such as SwordBase is terrible. I don't hate armor lock, but i can say it can sometimes get annoying. Bloom doesn't bother me either.


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: Tippied
Oh yeah? Tell me then, What is a good enough player in 2012.

You know the ones that actually kill them instead of complaining about them. Also the whole 2012 thing is regarding how people have been complaining about campers for years and guess what they are still people that camp because it works.

So your saying that anyone that is killed by a camper they immediately get off the console and go complain? You don't think they ever try to go kill them? I'm pretty sure thats what everyone does.

  • 12.06.2012 2:22 AM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.

People do it because it's possible, especially now that DMR team can take out a sniper before he gets a chance to get to cover.

I don't really care.

  • 12.06.2012 2:25 AM PDT

I like Halo: Reach. I think its a fun game. What i DON'T like about it is that the maps such as SwordBase is terrible. I don't hate armor lock, but i can say it can sometimes get annoying. Bloom doesn't bother me either.


Posted by: SH4D0W0733
Play planetside 2, you can't use guns, grenades or even your knife while in camo as a sniper.


I don't have a PC.

  • 12.06.2012 2:26 AM PDT


Posted by: Tippied

Posted by: Ushan

Posted by: Tippied
What is your opinion on Camo Sniping? I think its a cheap tactic and usually people who camo snipe are power weapon whores.


You know what me an' the boys did in World War II when the enemy came up with a clever new strategy? We came up with an equally clever counter strategy instead of calling their tactics cheap.

This is a video game, not real life.


Yeah, but videogames are based on real life, AND you use tactics from real life in videogames...

  • 12.06.2012 2:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: jEEborz
Wow.

You have to be trolling. You just have to be.

How so all of what I have said is true? Everyone deals with campers and if you choose to complain about them then that just means you either don't know how to counter their pathetic strategy and/or you suck at the game.



How about none of the above? I can and I don't. 2+ K/D spread. Got it? Good.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to 5 shot someone with a DMR/BR when;

-He's invisible.
-Your cross-hair doesn't turn red.
-You have as much aim assist as you do when shooting a teammate because of it.
-He has a one hit kill weapon.
-He takes cover after you land 2 shots.

It's not a 1v1 on Haven. It's usually on a BTB map. You don't just respawn amd make a beeline for the sniper, assuming you're lucky enough he's still in the same place. No, there are a million things going on, people in the way, and others trying to kill you.

No, it's not as simple as teamshooting or taking a mongoose/banshee/warthog to get behind him. No it's not as simple as he's doing X so I'm going to do Y. You're an idiot if you think it is.

I'm not complaining about camping. I'm simply irritated at the fact after a beta and 2 years of Reach, spawning with camo is still an option, especially when you have as many griefers as you do in a game like Halo.

Honestly, it's not even that big of a problem for me, but that doesn't stop me from realizing that is, in fact, a problem.




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  • 12.06.2012 2:28 AM PDT


Posted by: Tippied
So your saying that anyone that is killed by a camper they immediately get off the console and go complain? You don't think they ever try to go kill them? I'm pretty sure thats what everyone does.

Nah I hope people are not that bad about complaining. Though the point being is to complain about a common strategy shows a lack of skill and understanding of how the game is played. The main issue imo with your OP as a whole is how you are acting like camping makes you a terrible player and person. On the other hand campers are actually more skilled than the people that complain about them because they see one of the easier ways to get the most kills with the least effort. Though with that being said those that know the strategy also know weak points in it that are always there and choose to exploit them. For the most part camping provides a lot of things, but it also makes you open to a lot of easy counter strategies which most players really should know if they are even half good.

  • 12.06.2012 2:30 AM PDT


Posted by: jEEborz
How about none of the above? I can and I don't. 2+ K/D spread. Got it? Good.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to 5 shot someone with a DMR/BR when;

-He's invisible.
-Your cross-hair doesn't turn red.
-You have as much aim assist as you do when shooting a teammate because of it.
-He has a one hit kill weapon.
-He takes cover after you land 2 shots.

It's not a 1v1 on Haven. It's usually on a BTB map. You don't just respawn amd make a beeline for the sniper, assuming you're lucky enough he's still in the same place. No, there are a million things going on, people in the way, and others trying to kill you.

No, it's not as simple as teamshooting or taking a mongoose/banshee/warthog to get behind him. No it's not as simple as he's doing X so I'm going to do Y. You're an idiot if you think it is.

I'm not complaining about camping. I'm simply irritated at the fact after a beta and 2 years of Reach, spawning with camo is still an option, especially when you have as many griefers as you do in a game like Halo.

Honestly, it's not even that big of a problem for me, but that doesn't stop me from realizing that is, in fact, a problem.



Let me think about this invisibility isn't new and has been in Halo for years so that isn't a valid excuse. As for crosshairs not turning red I don't see the issue since if you die from him or see him shooting then you know where he is since camo doesn't make you entirely invisible. As for aim assist that is a skill issue really if you need such things in order to get kills you need to play some older games that had little to no aim assist in multiplayer. The the last 2 that is no different than a lot of other previous Halos and other games it is hardly an issue. Then regarding taking him sure I am simplifying it to an extent, but difficulty in accomplishing an objective such as killing a camper varies based on player skill and to complain means a lack of skill on your part. Then you act like spawning with camo is such a big problem when it really isn't due to the disadvantages it provides the person using it.

  • 12.06.2012 2:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Egerspurge
Further proof that Ragnarok needs to be nuked from orbit.

  • 12.06.2012 3:15 AM PDT

Still better than you.

.....most of you, at least.

I think it's dumb. Like in Reach. Halo is an arena shooter. Not a sim, or even an arcade style sim. The Sniper is an aggressive power weapon, and using it defensively is dumb.

  • 12.06.2012 3:22 AM PDT