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Subject: Border Patrol agent shoots woman 10 times.

A Californian agent shoots and kills mother of five over 10 times with gun. The article states that she suffered 14 gunshot wounds to her upper body.Apparently she tried to run over the man, and he continued firing till she stopped the car. I know, weird story, I had to read the article twice to fully grasp what was going on.

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  • 12.06.2012 9:14 PM PDT

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  • 12.06.2012 9:14 PM PDT

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He shot 10 times, but she has 14 bullet wounds?

  • 12.06.2012 9:15 PM PDT

She ran him over. Let's not forget that one event right there. She ran him over.

[Edited on 12.06.2012 9:15 PM PST]

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Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder why she tried to run him over...?

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  • 12.06.2012 9:17 PM PDT
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She was drugged up on meth, had a warrant for her arrest, and ran over a cop.

Good riddance. I like how the article tries to sensationalize it by bringing up the fact that she was a mother of five. No responsible, caring mother acts like that. She's a criminal.

End of story.

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Posted by: Gaara444
She ran him over. Let's not forget that one event right there. She ran him over.

  • 12.06.2012 9:20 PM PDT

I am assuming direct control.

Key detail for anyone who didn't read the article: The women was on meth and had already hit the agent, he was crashed through her windshield holding on to the car when he started shooting. She drove with him still on top of the car for over 200 yards desperately trying to get her to stop. He wasn't acting out of line, he was afraid for his life and a crazy women had him pinned going god knows how fast.

  • 12.06.2012 9:20 PM PDT


Posted by: MetalxTongue
Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder why she tried to run him over...?


She was trying to run from them. I'm not sure why the agent was in front of her car. She could have hit him on purpose, or he could have jumped in front of the car as it was leaving.

  • 12.06.2012 9:20 PM PDT
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She drove nearly 20 yards with him on her car's roof, after she hit him, trying to shake him off. If she didn't stop he could certainly of been killed, and once you start firing the gun you don't stop until the thread is subdued. Whatever his past conduct was, in this incident he had every reason to use lethal force to defend himself.

Also, for whatever significance it holds, the woman had meth in her system at the autopsy.

[Edited on 12.06.2012 9:22 PM PST]

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Posted by: Prototype117
He shot 10 times, but she has 14 bullet wounds?

Overpenetration? Entrance wound and exit wound for some of the bullets?

idk

  • 12.06.2012 9:20 PM PDT

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I'd fire until the car stopped too.

  • 12.06.2012 9:21 PM PDT

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>shot 10 times
>has 14 wounds

someone failed math

  • 12.06.2012 9:22 PM PDT


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Posted by: Prototype117
He shot 10 times, but she has 14 bullet wounds?

Overpenetration? Entrance wound and exit wound for some of the bullets?

idk

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  • 12.06.2012 9:23 PM PDT


Posted by: MetalxTongue
Sounds pretty messed up. I wonder why she tried to run him over...?
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Posted by: Yourself 332AGN
>shot 10 times
>has 14 wounds

someone failed math


Bullets can make multiple woulds at once, either by passing through the body and an appendage, splitting up and making multiple exit wounds, or richocheting.

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He was on the bleeding windshield of the speeding car of a meth user for over 200 yards. What would you do in those situations? Reason with her?

This is a genuine act of self -defense if I have ever seen one.

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  • 12.06.2012 9:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Yourself 332AGN
>shot 10 times
>has 14 wounds

someone failed math


The agent fired 10 shots, which caused 14 wounds. Bullets can fragment and ricochet.

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Posted by: Gaara444
She ran him over. Let's not forget that one event right there. She ran him over.


Exactly.

The Border Patrol agent did exactly as he was trained to do. The vehicle was being used as a weapon. A weapon is a threat. Law enforcement officers are trained to use the minimal amount of force that is necessary to neutralize a threat. As long as that woman was driving, she was still a threat. He continued firing until the vehicle stopped and the threat was neutralized.


As for the shots/wounds issue, some bullets may have fractured upon contact with the windshield and caused multiple wounds. Exit wounds are unlikely. He was probably firing hollow point rounds.


[Edited on 12.06.2012 9:32 PM PST]

  • 12.06.2012 9:30 PM PDT

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I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

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If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.


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Posted by: Yourself 332AGN
>shot 10 times
>has 14 wounds

someone failed math


The agent fired 10 shots, which caused 14 wounds. Bullets can fragment and ricochet.

it was meant to be a funny nothing more

  • 12.06.2012 9:34 PM PDT