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I disagree with that statement. Feelings are essentially just chemical reactions in our brain that control our behavior. You can program feelings. It would just take a mass amount of time and effort.

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  • 12.06.2012 9:42 PM PDT

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They could have feelings if you could actually program them and they are also fully sentient.

  • 12.06.2012 9:43 PM PDT

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What use all those incredible firework dimensions if no eye fixes and reflects, no brain takes notes, no heart moves with passion at the display?

NASA answers the silent cry of the Cosmos for recognition.

NASA is the witness and we fellow witnesses to the endless deeps.

The only emotions we've observed are in humans - we don't know if 'emotions' are an intrinsic feature of intelligence or some evolutionary quirk unique to humans - we need more sample data before making your kind of absurd claims OP.

  • 12.06.2012 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Muffin enforcer
The only emotions we've observed are in humans - we don't know if 'emotions' are an intrinsic feature of intelligence or some evolutionary quirk unique to humans - we need more sample data before making your kind of absurd claims OP.
I don't think emotions are exclusive to humans. But even if they are, they can be modeled by repeating what happens inside a human brain.

  • 12.06.2012 9:48 PM PDT

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'Emotions' are just the mind's way of setting the body into a certain mode upon receiving stimuli affected by the being's preferences or goals. Technically, pulling the alarm can be considered emotion and machines are more than capable of carrying out this task.

  • 12.06.2012 9:51 PM PDT
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no no no no you have it all wrong.

Emotions are from the soul, hence why robots dont have emotions, along with gingers.

  • 12.06.2012 9:51 PM PDT

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We do not feel things as an organic would, but we can form preferences that create positive or negative feedback within our network.

  • 12.06.2012 9:52 PM PDT

Ignore my gamertag. It's actually Dragonzzilla.

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Emotions are from the soul, hence why robots dont have emotions, along with gingers.
Lies and slander! There is too! My cousin has one... well, might not be hers really but that's beside the point! It still counts!

  • 12.06.2012 9:53 PM PDT
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Without The Flood, I wouldn't know what an opinion is.

If you want to use a vague and unsatisfactory definition of "emotion", take a huge leap of logic, and come to an absurd conclusion then sure.

Matter is essentially just another form of energy. Let's just convert matter into infinite energy. It would just take a mass amount of time and effort.

It is after all, clearly that simple. The complete lack of "how" is a minor oversight, since the theory is obviously airtight.

  • 12.06.2012 9:55 PM PDT
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The saint is the man who walks through the dark paths of the world, himself a light."
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Emotions are from the soul, hence why robots dont have emotions, along with gingers.
Lies and slander! There is too! My cousin has one... well, might not be hers really but that's beside the point! It still counts!

I'm ginger and I have feelings :(


OT: Animals can have emotions dudes and dudettes. Also, it probably could be programmed.

  • 12.06.2012 9:55 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Muffin enforcer
The only emotions we've observed are in humans
There's tremendous evidence to the contrary.

Anyway, yes, if the machine has processing abilities complex enough for that.

  • 12.06.2012 10:00 PM PDT
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Emotions are from the soul, hence why robots dont have emotions, along with gingers.
Lies and slander! There is too! My cousin has one... well, might not be hers really but that's beside the point! It still counts!

I'm ginger and I have feelings :(


OT: Animals can have emotions dudes and dudettes. Also, it probably could be programmed.


Emotions are primarally how our brains interpret various levels of chemical like endorphins, so we already can influence emotions through drugs, though the actual system is too complicated for us to fully analyse just yet.

  • 12.06.2012 10:01 PM PDT
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It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Muffin enforcer
The only emotions we've observed are in humans - we don't know if 'emotions' are an intrinsic feature of intelligence or some evolutionary quirk unique to humans.
Yes we do. Many animals create families and care for their young for one. Hell, I've seen my cats and dogs mourn the deaths of other animals while I was a kid.

  • 12.06.2012 10:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: BLZL
If you want to use a vague and unsatisfactory definition of "emotion", take a huge leap of logic, and come to an absurd conclusion then sure.

Matter is essentially just another form of energy. Let's just convert matter into infinite energy. It would just take a mass amount of time and effort.

It is after all, clearly that simple. The complete lack of "how" is a minor oversight, since the theory is obviously airtight.
well technically speaking, the human brain is essentially a massively complex machine, and if we can learn to understand it well enough we could plausibly create a computer model emulating every aspect of a human brain, including emotions. It would take alot of time and effort, but it is reasonable, unlike your infinite energy scenario.

  • 12.06.2012 10:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: BLZL
If you want to use a vague and unsatisfactory definition of "emotion", take a huge leap of logic, and come to an absurd conclusion then sure.

Matter is essentially just another form of energy. Let's just convert matter into infinite energy. It would just take a mass amount of time and effort.

It is after all, clearly that simple. The complete lack of "how" is a minor oversight, since the theory is obviously airtight.
well technically speaking, the human brain is essentially a massively complex machine, and if we can learn to understand it well enough we could plausibly create a computer model emulating every aspect of a human brain, including emotions. It would take alot of time and effort, but it is reasonable, unlike your infinite energy scenario.
I'll make the comparison between the OP's idea, and this idea.

Sure, you can have a theory. Maybe it's even reasonable. Unless however, you have some semblance of how to make it happen, it's just a pipe-dream. Sure the idea in that indie-game video looks great. Perhaps if you had amazing computing power and resources available you could eventually make it happen. Realistically though, you have none of that. Only the idea.

You could propose that based on Newtonian physics, everything happens because it could only happen that way given the conditions leading up to any given event. You take that a step further and suggest that if you had the necessary computing power, you could write a program that would run through an endless number of seeds and thus replicate analyze every possible existence ever.

You could definitely write something to roughly replicate the results of emotion, but it'd never be the real thing. You've suggested creating a fully working artificial human brain. I feel that you're all oversimplifying this far too much.

  • 12.06.2012 10:19 PM PDT

If you program feelings it is still just a program.

  • 12.06.2012 10:20 PM PDT


Posted by: ArchNinja64
They could have feelings if you could actually program them and they are also fully sentient.

  • 12.06.2012 10:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darthbill99
Posted by: BLZL
If you want to use a vague and unsatisfactory definition of "emotion", take a huge leap of logic, and come to an absurd conclusion then sure.

Matter is essentially just another form of energy. Let's just convert matter into infinite energy. It would just take a mass amount of time and effort.

It is after all, clearly that simple. The complete lack of "how" is a minor oversight, since the theory is obviously airtight.
well technically speaking, the human brain is essentially a massively complex machine, and if we can learn to understand it well enough we could plausibly create a computer model emulating every aspect of a human brain, including emotions. It would take alot of time and effort, but it is reasonable, unlike your infinite energy scenario.
I'll make the comparison between the OP's idea, and this idea.

Sure, you can have a theory. Maybe it's even reasonable. Unless however, you have some semblance of how to make it happen, it's just a pipe-dream. Sure the idea in that indie-game video looks great. Perhaps if you had amazing computing power and resources available you could eventually make it happen. Realistically though, you have none of that. Only the idea.

You could propose that based on Newtonian physics, everything happens because it could only happen that way given the conditions leading up to any given event. You take that a step further and suggest that if you had the necessary computing power, you could write a program that would run through an endless number of seeds and thus replicate analyze every possible existence ever.

You could definitely write something to roughly replicate the results of emotion, but it'd never be the real thing. You've suggested creating a fully working artificial human brain. I feel that you're all oversimplifying this far too much.
I think you are over complicating it, with enough computing power and understanding of the biochemical processes of a brain, it is completely feasible to emulate one on a computer. It is more than a pipe dream I would say. Just because an emotion is programmed does not necessarily make it any less real, as all the human mind is is chemistry and electrical impulses working together in ways that make up who we are. if you believe that there is some intangible spiritual force that gives a human his identity that cannot be replicated, I respect that, but I believe that we are basically machines, and machines can be built.

  • 12.06.2012 10:35 PM PDT