- Raptorx7
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"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"
"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."
- "Cross of Iron"
Yeah i know, whats your point?
The Russian soldier ultimately defeated Hitler and he should be remembered and commemorated for it. They bled and died in the 20 millions to stop the Germans in there advance and ultimately capture Berlin.
They committed atrocities that is a fact but they still are the ones who won the war for the most part and i am saying that as an American. You cant blame the individual soldier for every atrocity, just like you cant blame every German soldier. They all served there country's and did what they have to do. (Excluding those who murdered and raped of course)
Posted by: Yourself 332AGN
Posted by: Raptorx7
Posted by: da bomb drop
Posted by: A Jar of Dirt
Boo hoo, cry me a river. Over 60 million people died overall in WWII on all sides.[/quote]
Whether or not more died in one event than this one, this event brought the game changer into WW2 and tipped the balance of power in favour of the allies. This was the major event of WW2, along with the battle of stalingrad, and the dropping of the atomic bombs, that really changed the war.
Yes, there where far great tragedies all over the war, the holocaust, the torture of allied troops at the hands of the Japanese, the atomic bombs being a very sad thing America had to do, but just because more lives where lost elsewhere, it does mean that the loss of the men at pearl harbour was any less sad.
Every life lost due to that war was a waste, and deserves equal rememberance, save hitler.[/quote]
Why are Stalin and the Soviet Union considered good guys compared to Hitler and Germany?
To people who have knowledge of the war, they are not, they where nearly as bad as the germans, and certainly killed enough people to warrant the "bad guys" title.
Just remember no side came out of that war with clean hands, every side committed war crimes, the allies slaughtered children, who where in turn forced to fight by the axis.
There where no good guy's and bad guys, it was just two sides fighting for different things.
You summed it up very well good job.
Both sides committed evils but the bad side was clearly defined for the most part.
At the start of the war the USSR was 'part' of the axis with the no aggression pack with Germany, AND they help hitler invade Poland. They were literally part of the Allies only because of a common enemy then in German and Japan (they never forgave them for the Reso-Japanese war)