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Subject: Why do people think communism works?

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Posted by: markwil1992
Dictatorships =/= communism

Communist Russia, dictatorship
Communist Cube, dictatorship
Communist China, dictatorship
Communist Vietnam, dictatorship
Communist North Korea, I'm pretty sure that it's a dictatorship

I can't think of any other communist nations

  • 12.07.2012 4:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Billygoat456
I'll bring the tritium laser cutters if you bring the beer!

Funny story.

Capitalism doesn't even work in theory, it's meant to be a broken and unfair system over a certain amount of time.

  • 12.07.2012 4:47 PM PDT

“If we will disbelieve everything, because we cannot certainly know all things, we shall do much what as wisely as he who would not use his legs, but sit still and perish, because he had no wings to fly.” - John Locke

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth after all is so poorly lit." - Rush

*sigh*


Read Marx before spouting more ridiculous ignorant drivel.

  • 12.07.2012 4:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: markwil1992
Dictatorships =/= communism

Communist Russia, dictatorship
Communist Cube, dictatorship
Communist China, dictatorship
Communist Vietnam, dictatorship
Communist North Korea, I'm pretty sure that it's a dictatorship

I can't think of any other communist nations


Exactly. They're actually not communist at all even though they are labeled that way.

  • 12.07.2012 4:47 PM PDT
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Communism will never work because of human nature.
If you can remove human nature from humans then sure, communism could work.

  • 12.07.2012 4:48 PM PDT

Even though the USSR was called communist it was way more socialist in practice, and the system worked pretty well, people are driven more by there passions and less for money like in the western world. Of course exceptions arise but that is how it worked simplified. Not everyone's dream is to sit and watch tv OP! What didn't work was that everything was the same. For example doctors were given the same pay and benefits as a factory worker who didn't need to go to university obviously people saw unfairness in this. That's why capitalism works best you get what you work for, sometimes.

  • 12.07.2012 4:48 PM PDT

“If we will disbelieve everything, because we cannot certainly know all things, we shall do much what as wisely as he who would not use his legs, but sit still and perish, because he had no wings to fly.” - John Locke

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth after all is so poorly lit." - Rush


Posted by: Yourself 332AGN

Posted by: markwil1992
Dictatorships =/= communism

Communist Russia, dictatorship
Communist Cube, dictatorship
Communist China, dictatorship
Communist Vietnam, dictatorship
Communist North Korea, I'm pretty sure that it's a dictatorship

I can't think of any other communist nations
Except those are communist in name only. Sure, maybe they had some socialists aspects, some government control of some economic factors, but hardly even close to communism.

  • 12.07.2012 4:48 PM PDT


Posted by: hal0l
You clearly can't provide a good argument for it or against me.
Whatever you say, mate.

  • 12.07.2012 4:48 PM PDT

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Not everyone wants to be a lazy bum who does nothing but drink beer and make babies, plenty of people feel a need to contribute to their community, that's why we have volunteer workers and a competely volunteer military in the states. Communism doesn't work due to the governent being given too much power, not because everyone is delegated an equal amount of stuff.

  • 12.07.2012 4:49 PM PDT

The world is not beautiful: And that, in a way, lends it a sort of beauty.

~Kino's Journey

Because ants.

Seriously, ants are living proof that communism can work, and boy does it work for them.

  • 12.07.2012 4:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Locke357
*sigh*


Read Marx before spouting more ridiculous ignorant drivel.


Communism doesn't work. Those that think it does are dumb. Humans are humans, and a lot of communist leaders deserve to be tortured for eternity. Marx should for ever making this "Government" up. I HATE COMMUNISTS. They have done terrible things.

  • 12.07.2012 4:50 PM PDT

It's hard enough to make it work in Minecraft for god sakes.

In an ideal country with ideal people, it would certainly "work." However, people are not perfect, nor are they consistent, so it doesn't work.

[Edited on 12.07.2012 4:51 PM PST]

  • 12.07.2012 4:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Billygoat456
I'll bring the tritium laser cutters if you bring the beer!

Funny story.

Posted by: crispychicken49
Communism doesn't work. Those that think it does are dumb. Humans are humans, and a lot of communist leaders deserve to be tortured for eternity. Marx should for ever making this "Government" up. I HATE COMMUNISTS. They have done terrible things.
And Capitalists have never done anything bad? Which system do you think those dictators in Africa use?

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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


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Posted by: Everlasting Fate
Usually liberal teenagers who think they're intellectuals think communism works, when it's failed every time it was put into practice.
It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives; just people who don't understand government systems.

Actually a lot of liberals think communism is a valid economic system. Learn what you're talking about.

No liberal thinks communism is valid. Communists think communism is valid.

  • 12.07.2012 4:52 PM PDT


Posted by: monitor 16807
Posted by: crispychicken49
Communism doesn't work. Those that think it does are dumb. Humans are humans, and a lot of communist leaders deserve to be tortured for eternity. Marx should for ever making this "Government" up. I HATE COMMUNISTS. They have done terrible things.
And Capitalists have never done anything bad? Which system do you think those dictators in Africa use?


Did I say Capitalism is good? No. I hate how everyone thinks that when you say you hate communists they automatically think your some capitalist -blam!- who goes MURICA MURICA MURICA all the time.

  • 12.07.2012 4:53 PM PDT
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People work in communism. The difference is that you work where the State says you're needed. All production is centrally planned.

ie, The government literally sits down and says, "we are going to produce:"

200 million razor blades
150 million toothbrushes
50 million cars
etc

The thing is that you get paid the same wage all the time, regardless of the quality of your work. You just have to hit your quota in your set hours.

But the main flaw in communism in today's world is that most Western economies aren't resource and manufacturing economies anymore. How do you centrally plan to produce a set amount of internet bandwidth, cell phone plans, or Netflix subscriptions?

How can you apply communism in a 21st century service and information economy? The whole theory is based on dealing with the problems of a 19th century industrial economy. It doesn't work. It would be like advocating for mercantilism over free trade.

Note: I am talking solely about the economic system of communism.

[Edited on 12.07.2012 4:56 PM PST]

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Posted by: crispychicken49
They wouldn't think a communistic government would work if they saw their friends, family, and other people they knew get shipped off on a train to Siberia where they will die a horrible death.

Or taken prisoner and held to the execution wall to force answers.

Or maybe executed in the streets.

Yeah, I don't think you would be pro-communist after seeing all that.


...

I think you're screwing something up here.

  • 12.07.2012 5:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: DrBeepBoop
Communism works IN THEORY. Never has it been put into practice successfully. Human greed is too high for it to actually work.


Exactly. Communism paints a beautiful utopian vision, but the reality is there are greedy people and there are lazy people. It doesn't work in practice.

Having said that..... capitalism isn't exactly flawless either.

Greed messes up pretty much everything.

  • 12.07.2012 5:04 PM PDT
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I don't see how it works in theory, because in theory it still uses people and people have human nature which goes against communism. So for me, in theory, it would still fail.

  • 12.07.2012 5:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: DrBeepBoop
Communism works IN THEORY. Never has it been put into practice successfully. Human greed is too high for it to actually work.

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