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Subject: Serious question about your views on women


Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear
So a sense of right and wrong stems from barbaric ideals? Sounds quite the opposite to me. Input from others?


Morality in the past has usually not come from introspection or critical thought rather than compulsion, and when it has, it's often outdated and surpassed by modern ideals.

What are modern ideals anyway?

And what makes them better than my barbarian ideals?

  • 12.08.2012 8:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: Prototype117

Then it will become a habit which will lead to divorce and cheating. You will find it hard to marry and you probably wont make a proper family.
Uh...what?

a) I know several people who were in a number of casual relationships when they were younger who are committed partners in long-term monogamous relationships now
b) I specifically stated that it's not a personal preference that I share, just that I don't look down on people who hold those views, so even if your wild and inaccurate generalisation were correct, how exactly would it impact on my future marriage prospects?

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Devastation182
It was that Cracked article that made me lose all my respect for that author. Especially the "whore" segment.

The writer hes mocking has some points. Most of the hot girls who cosplay probably know as much about those comics as i do, which isnt much. Outside of those conventions when they are not garnering attention they probably wouldnt even give those nerds the light of day.

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: InvasionImminent
A sense of wrong and right does not stem from religion.


No, it stems from barbaric and outdated ideals...

So a sense of right and wrong stems from barbaric ideals? Sounds quite the opposite to me. Input from others?

Agreed. Even my dog knows it's wrong to eat my food when I leave the room. I can tell because he leaves the room and hides from me.

What does that have to do with anything. i.e. how is this an outdated concept?

Because it is not outdated if they're practiced by even animals.

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT

I have a different view on anyone who's been in a bunch of relationships/doesn't take them seriously. It's not dependent on gender at all.

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: True Deception
People who view sex as a casual thing, and this is for both men and women, disgust me greatly. I won't openly admit it out of the blue, or actively attack people who hold those views, but I will let them know of my strong disapproval if my opinion of it is asked, like now for instance.


But why? What is wrong with the temporary indulgence of a physically pleasing activity that brings no harm to the self or others?

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT

No, no bias at all.

I have no idea why you think of this.
In my opinion this isnt serious at all.

  • 12.08.2012 8:36 PM PDT

GAAAAYYY


Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: Prototype117

Then it will become a habit which will lead to divorce and cheating. You will find it hard to marry and you probably wont make a proper family.
Uh...what?

a) I know several people who were in a number of casual relationships when they were younger who are committed partners in long-term monogamous relationships now
b) I specifically stated that it's not a personal preference that I share, just that I don't look down on people who hold those views, so even if your wild and inaccurate generalisation were correct, how exactly would it impact on my future marriage prospects?

I'm saying your whole perception on a relationship changed into that ideal of just casual enjoyable sex, so when it comes to having it with only one person it doesn't suffice.

  • 12.08.2012 8:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear
So a sense of right and wrong stems from barbaric ideals? Sounds quite the opposite to me. Input from others?


Morality in the past has usually not come from introspection or critical thought rather than compulsion, and when it has, it's often outdated and surpassed by modern ideals.

What are modern ideals anyway?

And what makes them better than my barbarian ideals?


Our ideas of morality come from barbaric and outdated methods of arriving at ethical conclusions. That doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong, but it does mean that you can't say they're right just because we happened to be compelled to think so.

Posted by: InvasionImminent
Because it is not outdated if they're practiced by even animals.


That's not only not relevant, it's also a complete non sequitur.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 8:39 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 8:37 PM PDT

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Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: Prototype117

Then it will become a habit which will lead to divorce and cheating. You will find it hard to marry and you probably wont make a proper family.
Uh...what?

a) I know several people who were in a number of casual relationships when they were younger who are committed partners in long-term monogamous relationships now
b) I specifically stated that it's not a personal preference that I share, just that I don't look down on people who hold those views, so even if your wild and inaccurate generalisation were correct, how exactly would it impact on my future marriage prospects?

I'm saying your whole perception on a relationship changed into that ideal of just casual enjoyable sex, so when it comes to having it with only one person it doesn't suffice.


That is a sweeping generalization.

  • 12.08.2012 8:38 PM PDT

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  • 12.08.2012 8:38 PM PDT


Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear
So a sense of right and wrong stems from barbaric ideals? Sounds quite the opposite to me. Input from others?


Morality in the past has usually not come from introspection or critical thought rather than compulsion, and when it has, it's often outdated and surpassed by modern ideals.

What are modern ideals anyway?

And what makes them better than my barbarian ideals?


Our ideas of morality come from barbaric and outdated methods of arriving at ethical conclusions. That doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong, but it does mean that you can't say they're right just because we happened to be compelled to think so.

That's not modern ideals, that's the definition of Moral conduct, and they're not outdated.

  • 12.08.2012 8:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: Defogner

Posted by: Devastation182
It was that Cracked article that made me lose all my respect for that author. Especially the "whore" segment.

The writer hes mocking has some points. Most of the hot girls who cosplay probably know as much about those comics as i do, which isnt much. Outside of those conventions when they are not garnering attention they probably wouldnt even give those nerds the light of day.
Seriously?

Cosplay costumes require an incredible amount of time and effort to put together - most cosplayers make the costumes themselves from scratch. Cosplaying definitely requires a knowledge of the character in order to be effective. And even if it didn't - even if women just dressed up as hot characters in order to have a little fun - how does that make their enjoyment of the medium any less legitimate or valid than that of people who enjoy it in other ways? I read comics sometimes, and my preferred way of enjoying the fandom is talking about the comics I like with my friends on the internet and maybe writing a bit of fanfiction sometimes. That's no more or less valid than some girl reading a Catwoman story, deciding she likes the character, and dressing up as her for Comic-Con. It's not her fault if guys take her costume as some kind of invitation or promise where no such thing has been offered or implied. She's just having fun, which she's entitled to do. These things are just meant to be fun, you know.

  • 12.08.2012 8:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: jaythenerdkid
Do you think you have a conscious bias against women who have had multiple partners, or women with more relaxed attitudes towards relationships? If so, why?
If the woman expects no more commitment to relationships from anyone else, I don't suppose I would. Any other feelings I would have about it would essentially just be societal conditioning that I can't control.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 8:40 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 8:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Seggi31

That's not only not relevant, it's also a complete non sequitur.

Then perhaps I have misread what the gentleman has posted, in which case, I apologize for posting something confusing myself.

EDIT: I think I have made my point clear previously. At this point I'm going in circles. I'm done with this thread.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 8:42 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 8:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: True Deception
People who view sex as a casual thing, and this is for both men and women, disgust me greatly. I won't openly admit it out of the blue, or actively attack people who hold those views, but I will let them know of my strong disapproval if my opinion of it is asked, like now for instance.


But why? What is wrong with the temporary indulgence of a physically pleasing activity that brings no harm to the self or others?
Because such activities are something special or "sacred" in my eyes, only to be shared between two people who truly love each other. That, like i've stated, is simply my opinion. And since I don't attack others or treat them differently based off it, there's no issue. I generally keep my resentment towards others or certain practices silent unless they start to negatively affect me or the people i'm close to, since there's really no reason to start conflicts about it.

  • 12.08.2012 8:41 PM PDT

People have their own set of morals. There is nothing wrong with that, you do what you please.

I have no idea why you would ask someone a question like that. Its a puddle of mud, youll never see the answer clearly.

Some people may not like a practise, but still respect it and whatever.
Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: True Deception
People who view sex as a casual thing, and this is for both men and women, disgust me greatly. I won't openly admit it out of the blue, or actively attack people who hold those views, but I will let them know of my strong disapproval if my opinion of it is asked, like now for instance.


But why? What is wrong with the temporary indulgence of a physically pleasing activity that brings no harm to the self or others?


[Edited on 12.08.2012 8:42 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 8:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: InvasionImminent
That's not modern ideals, that's the definition of Moral conduct, and they're not outdated.


Did you click reply on the wrong post, or something? Read what I said.

  • 12.08.2012 8:41 PM PDT

GAAAAYYY


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: Prototype117

Then it will become a habit which will lead to divorce and cheating. You will find it hard to marry and you probably wont make a proper family.
Uh...what?

a) I know several people who were in a number of casual relationships when they were younger who are committed partners in long-term monogamous relationships now
b) I specifically stated that it's not a personal preference that I share, just that I don't look down on people who hold those views, so even if your wild and inaccurate generalisation were correct, how exactly would it impact on my future marriage prospects?

I'm saying your whole perception on a relationship changed into that ideal of just casual enjoyable sex, so when it comes to having it with only one person it doesn't suffice.


That is a sweeping generalization.

If so answer this? Why cant sex be kept as an act between a man and his wife to enjoy each other and reproduce?

  • 12.08.2012 8:42 PM PDT


Posted by: InvasionImminent
Because it is not outdated if they're practiced by even animals.

...I think we are arguing in favor of the same side.

  • 12.08.2012 8:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31

Posted by: Muffin enforcer
So looking out for those in need is barbaric and outdated?


No, our ideas of morality come from barbaric and outdated methods of arriving at ethical conclusions. That doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong, but it does mean that you can't say they're right just because we happened to be compelled to think so.


Morality is a subjective concept anyway - there are fundamentals followed by almost every culture on Earth, but there is no unanimous definition of right or wrong. No one can definitively say that something is wrong or right - whether you be the elderly woman who clings to these ethical conclusions or the group of 17 year olds down the road.

  • 12.08.2012 8:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: Prototype117

If so answer this? Why cant sex be kept as an act between a man and his wife to enjoy each other and reproduce?
Well, for starters, not all relationships are between two people who wish to reproduce, or even two people who can reproduce.

Leaving aside the sticky issue of LGBT relationships, what about couples where one partner is incapable of having children? Should they be celibate for life because their intimacy can't possibly result in offspring?

  • 12.08.2012 8:44 PM PDT


Posted by: jaythenerdkid
Do you think you have a conscious bias against women who have had multiple partners, or women with more relaxed attitudes towards relationships? If so, why?


No.

It's none of my business who someone's been banging.

  • 12.08.2012 8:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Muffin enforcer
Morality is a subjective concept anyway - there are fundamentals followed by almost every culture on Earth, but there is no unanimous definition of right or wrong. No one can definitively say that something is wrong or right - whether you be the elderly woman who clings to these ethical conclusions or the group of 17 year olds down the road.


That's not really relevant...

  • 12.08.2012 8:47 PM PDT