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Subject: Stop Elite racism on the forums.

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Posted by: GezaB
But Recon, there is hardly any African American or White racism in Halo 2..

Which version of Halo 2 are you playing? I hear real racism in every matchmaking game I've joined. I make a skillful snipe and get called a -blam!-. I say 'good game' at the end of a match, their response is 'stfu cheating -blam!-'. I'm not even black, and these morons still spit out these hateful words to all who do better than them.

Since when are people who use Elite skins considered a race?

  • 07.04.2006 2:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Darkness Howls
I didn't realize you could be prejudiced against a fictional character made of pixels.


LOL human stupidity knows no bounds! People will find a way to hate anything at all.

  • 07.04.2006 2:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkness Howls
I didn't realize you could be prejudiced against a fictional character made of pixels.

  • 07.04.2006 2:35 PM PDT
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elite prejudice is not only ironic, but it's useful. How else are we to know that someone is a complete moron (aside from paying attention to everything else they say) so quickly and easily, then them saying" omg stupid elite looser, only stupid stupids' are elites"?
To me, saying that phrase or the uncountable variations of that phrase, is just like saying " omg i'm intensly stupid, don't pay any attention to me anymore".

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Posted by: GezaB
But Recon, there is hardly any African American or White racism in Halo 2..

Which version of Halo 2 are you playing? I hear real racism in every matchmaking game I've joined. I make a skillful snipe and get called a -blam!-. I say 'good game' at the end of a match, their response is 'stfu cheating -blam!-'. I'm not even black, and these morons still spit out these hateful words to all who do better than them.

Since when are people who use Elite skins considered a race?


Real racism and sexism are a much larger problem.

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Posted by: GezaB
But Recon, there is hardly any African American or White racism in Halo 2, thaugh Elite racism is a very big problem... I mean... I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about racism about Elites...


I've been w/ some black friends while they endured racist remarks. Please do not EVER compare people -blam!-ing about the character model you use in Halo to racism or any form of the word.

It is a game, if you feel as though you are being treated unfairly because you play as a dinosaur... then please re-evaluate your life. kthnxbye

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Posted by: mr poopoo232
its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

I play as an elite sometimes, I enjoy difference, and when I do play as an elite, I take great pride when they call me a [insert insult here] only for them to get owned by me. I laugh so hard when they say "beginners luck" then get owned in the next game.

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fat ugly dinosaur elites!

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Honestly, Elites or Sangheili to put it in it's real term, are fictional. The fact that you letting a bunch of idiots piss you off by making fun of a fictional species is really odd.

  • 07.04.2006 5:09 PM PDT

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It is not much of racism it is more of teens hating to see some guy playing as a dinosaur. -blam!-

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  • 07.04.2006 5:52 PM PDT

Skillet was here and referred to himself in the third person.

Hmm...I think I see a way to counter this.

Every person who works at Bungie should change there (cosmetic) avatr in the game to Elites...and then utterly destroy every Elite Racist on the planet. I think it would solve the problem!

But it will never happen...(maybe).

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It is not much of racism it is more of teens hating to see some guy playing as a dinosaur. -blam!-


Actually that would be specieism, or however it is spelled...

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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

...species?

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Posted by: Darkness Howls
...species?


-ism. Speciesism.

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Posted by: Darkness Howls
I didn't realize you could be prejudiced against a fictional character made of pixels.


LOL human stupidity knows no bounds! People will find a way to hate anything at all.



I agree. You took the words right out of my mouth.

[Edited on 7/4/2006]

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Posted by: GezaB
I think we realy, realy need to stop Elite racism on the forums once and for all.
I love to play Halo, I play it every day once I get home, sometimes hours at a time. I used an Elite model on live, and every day I'd get insulted by people... most commonly fifteen year old boys, who say things like "(Insert the N word here), how the hell can you play as an Elite, they're big, clunky, can't jump for crap, and are way easier to headshot" (Note, I had to clean that up abit since the B.net cussing filter will put "-blam!-" on every second word...).

I joined the bungie forums around the newyear of 06, and than, the forums where flooded with topics about Elite racism and people would often go off topic in a thread to say how bad Elites are. Thankfully, this has died down over some time now, but I still see it regularly.

Recently, I've seen a video which made fun of Elites... which seemed to say (Not literaly) "All Elite players on Xbox Live are just six year olds trying to be cool". People have actualy said that, that Elites are mostly six year olds who play on Xbox Live (They shouldn't even be playing Halo) thinking their cool or something like that.

I recently switched my character model and now, it seams people who treated me poorly when I was an Elite seem to like me better now, and I find that less and less people trash-talk me.

My point is:
I think if someone shows Elite racism on the forums, I think their threads should be locked, or maybe they should be blacklisted, I find it abit silly actualy that the moderators don't understand that Elite racism is targeting alot of players, both young, and old, by putting out the basic message "Elites have os many disadvantages they suck! And whoever plays as them "sucks" too!". And they are insulting the (small) group of gamers that are Elites, people who just want to have fun, but they won't let them just for some character model...
Its insulting, and I think it should be stopped, at least to lock these peoples threads if not stop it completeley.

Oh please. "Elite racism"? Don't try to turn this elite thing into some critical debate point...it all comes down to opinion.

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I hear real racism almost every time I get on Live. Much more than I hear people making fun of elites.

BTW, it's mainly just fun to make fun of elites. There's no practical reasoning. Just entertainment. Don't take it so personally.

  • 07.04.2006 10:58 PM PDT
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My opinion is that if I see someone being overly stupid about people who play as elites, it will be dealt with just like any other spammer. In the end, it's someone being stupid for no reason, which can be bannable.

That's my opinion though, I wish this whole Elites vs. Humans thing would shut up.

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  • 07.05.2006 1:11 AM PDT
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You stop them calling me Brit, I will stop the Elite slurs.

I never encounter any elite racism (one of my clanmates is pure elite to the point of reciting lines from campaign) but I encounter national racism on a huge scale.

An Elite player can change his skin, I can't change my birthplace.

  • 07.05.2006 5:12 AM PDT

That'll teach you to lay waste to the human colonies, won't it squid-head?

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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

I know the feeling; I sometimes play as an Elite for Actionsack (they rawk in Brutality) but other than that I'm a Spartan. I often get the feeling that the Elite I'm fighting isn't as good as a Spartan player, which is stupid, and if you're a good player, playing as an Elite is advantageous because people already assume you're crap before you've even started fighting.

But yes, its silly, but I don't think it'l ever go away. Maybe in Halo 3, if they re-rig the Elite because his stance is so frigging stupid!!!!!!£(!!£)@ WARGH!
Ehem, excuse me.

  • 07.05.2006 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pezza
An Elite player can change his skin, I can't change my birthplace.


Damn you try!!!!

  • 07.05.2006 12:02 PM PDT

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