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Subject: Your thoughts on reality..

Most people have the same general perception of reality, but have you ever really thought about it. The human brain can only understand so much. Humans in comparison to cave men are genius, but we don't know half of of the things we think we do. We are only human. But what are your thought on reality itself and how reality is only a way for the human brain to understand life?

Here's a good video to open your mind. Kind of a reference of what I'm asking. Watch and discuss!

  • 12.08.2012 10:12 PM PDT

The Universe demands to be noticed, to be seen, and dutifully noted.

What use all those incredible firework dimensions if no eye fixes and reflects, no brain takes notes, no heart moves with passion at the display?

NASA answers the silent cry of the Cosmos for recognition.

NASA is the witness and we fellow witnesses to the endless deeps.

Someone's been reading Phillip K. Dick.

  • 12.08.2012 10:13 PM PDT
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Depressing...

  • 12.08.2012 10:13 PM PDT

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You should read Hume and Kant.

But there's not much reason to think we shouldn't take reality at face value. The senses generally have been demonstrated to create a very reliable model of the reality you inhabit.

  • 12.08.2012 10:17 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
You should read Hume and Kant.

But there's not much reason to think we shouldn't take reality at face value. The senses generally have been demonstrated to create a very reliable model of the reality you inhabit.


Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox? Some things only make sense to a certain extent. The human mind can only understand so much. So saying we know most of the things that we claim we to is just arrogant to say the least.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 10:23 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 10:21 PM PDT

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  • 12.08.2012 10:22 PM PDT

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The only thing that we can know to be reality is the fact that reality exists.

Or perhaps it doesn't, by some cruel twist of fallible logic.

  • 12.08.2012 10:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?

  • 12.08.2012 10:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.

  • 12.08.2012 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: eggsalad
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.
How is that an example of a paradox arisen from logical process?

  • 12.08.2012 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.
How is that an example of a paradox arisen from logical process?
Perhaps I was using terms far too loosely, but I cannot come to a logical conclusion of how the existence started, it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical, or it has always existed, which is illogical.

  • 12.08.2012 10:27 PM PDT
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The guy who's talking in the video has a blunt on him. I can smell it from here.

  • 12.08.2012 10:28 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.
How is that an example of a paradox arisen from logical process?


Good example. Because it contradicts itself.

  • 12.08.2012 10:29 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.
How is that an example of a paradox arisen from logical process?

The fact we know our universe begins and ends, yet at the same time know something can't come from nothing. All of the rules and laws in our reality that by just being there mean there are plenty of other rules outside our universe that might not make sense to this one. I'm not sure if these are good examples, but im sure if you go deep enough everything in our universe has some sort of parodox that contradicts itself, atleast to our minds.

  • 12.08.2012 10:30 PM PDT

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  • 12.08.2012 10:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: eggsalad
Perhaps I was using terms far too loosely, but I cannot come to a logical conclusion of how the existence started, it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical, or it has always existed, which is illogical.
Well let's think about that.

it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical,You should expand on how this is illogical, because it is not impossible or unscientific. There are those who scientifically explain the possibility, and likelihood, of the universe coming from nothing.

or it has always existed, which is illogical.You'll also have to expand on why this is illogical.

  • 12.08.2012 10:31 PM PDT

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It most likely always existed. This is possible and logical due to multiple dimensions. Time is home in the 4th dimension, in the 5th dimension, you are not restrained to time as we know it.

Because the 5th dimenasion outside of time, things init do not need to have. Beggining or an end.

Now, obviously humans cannot fully comprehensive this, but we can logically understand it.

  • 12.08.2012 10:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Defogner

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: CLegg2
Yeah, to a certain extent. But what about when you go too far into logic and hit a paradox?
Example?
Explain the origin of existence.
How is that an example of a paradox arisen from logical process?

The fact we know our universe begins and ends, yet at the same time know something can't come from nothing. All of the rules and laws in our reality that by just being there mean there are plenty of other rules outside our universe that might not make sense to this one. I'm not sure if these are good examples, but im sure if you go deep enough everything in our universe has some sort of parodox that contradicts itself, atleast to our minds.


That's exactly the point I was truing to make. The human mind can only understand so much.. And another example: Scientist are starting to thinl that every black hole leads to another universe! Think about that. (Reference) We really don't know near as much as we think.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 10:38 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 10:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Perhaps I was using terms far too loosely, but I cannot come to a logical conclusion of how the existence started, it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical, or it has always existed, which is illogical.
Well let's think about that.

it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical,You should expand on how this is illogical, because it is not impossible or unscientific. There are those who scientifically explain the possibility, and likelihood, of the universe coming from nothing.

or it has always existed, which is illogical.You'll also have to expand on why this is illogical.
Wouldn't you say that if there were nothing before existence there would be nothing to cause existence? How would existence begin without having already existed?

If existence was eternal, how did it reach this point? That is an infinitely stretching amount of time for it to reach this point, meaning it never would.


But then again I am aware I do not know much about time-relativity. So please, enlighten me.
That wasn't meant to be condescending.

[Edited on 12.08.2012 10:38 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2012 10:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Defogner
The fact we know our universe begins and ends,
That's not a fact.

yet at the same time know something can't come from nothing.That's also not a fact.

The reason you're coming up with a paradox is because you're assuming that two contradictory propositions are true rather than taking the logical approach and acknowledging the mutual exclusivity of it. If one is true then the other cannot be, so it is illogical to accept both as truth. It's the law of non-contradiction.

  • 12.08.2012 10:35 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
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  • 12.08.2012 10:36 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: eggsalad
Perhaps I was using terms far too loosely, but I cannot come to a logical conclusion of how the existence started, it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical, or it has always existed, which is illogical.
Well let's think about that.

it either spontaneously appeared from nothing, which is illogical,You should expand on how this is illogical, because it is not impossible or unscientific. There are those who scientifically explain the possibility, and likelihood, of the universe coming from nothing.

or it has always existed, which is illogical.You'll also have to expand on why this is illogical.


No, how about you explain how its logical? And I'd like to see a link or reference to where scientist say the universe can come from nothing.

  • 12.08.2012 10:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: CLegg2
No, how about you explain how its logical? And I'd like to see a link or reference to where scientist say the universe can come from nothing.
Universe =/= Existence of everything.

  • 12.08.2012 10:37 PM PDT


Posted by: eggsalad

Posted by: CLegg2
No, how about you explain how its logical? And I'd like to see a link or reference to where scientist say the universe can come from nothing.
Universe =/= Existence of everything.


Where's your basis for this? And please explain in detail how you think so.

  • 12.08.2012 10:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: CLegg2

Posted by: eggsalad

Posted by: CLegg2
No, how about you explain how its logical? And I'd like to see a link or reference to where scientist say the universe can come from nothing.
Universe =/= Existence of everything.


Where's your basis for this? And please explain in detail how you think so.
Well now we're just arguing semantics.
And as google is telling me, I am terribly mistaken.
I'm just used to people using the term universe in a different sense.

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[Edited on 12.08.2012 10:41 PM PST]

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