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Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

Please note the changes listed are not official patch notes and are opinions. I am looking for feedback on some of these.

Armor Abilities:
Promethean Vision-
Blue outline instead of red. (Similar to seeing a cloaked enemy).
Thruster Pack-
A launch more comparable to Reach's evade, the pro being that it can be used mid-air and the con being it's only able to be used once.
Active Camouflage-
Allow Energy swords to lunge at partially cloaked enemies. (Noticed while playing Flood, I do not know if this applies everywhere.)
Sentry-
Faster Rate of fire so it actually acts as an area of denial armor ability rather than just an annoyance.

Weapons:
Battle Rifle-
Cause more flinch seeing how it shoots three rounds instead of one.
Boltshot-
(Charged)Remove ability to cancel a charge by switching weapons. Remove the ability to hold a charge so it fires immediately after becoming ready. Make it where it only reaches to it's OSK range and dealing no damage after that. (Similar to GoW3's sawed-off shotgun).
Fuel Rod-
Wider angle required for a ricochet, this way it does not bounce when shooting close range targets.
Incineration Cannon-
Make it's secondary cluster bomb explosion non-lethal if only hit by one pellet.
Railgun-
Increased damage to vehicles seeing how railguns are meant for armor piercing. Removal of splash damage.

Vehicles:
Banshee-
Increase Banshee's shielding in exchange for less health so it cannot be permanently damaged by one stubborn DMR player.
Gauss Warthog-
Remove the ability to fire while EMP'ed. It uses electronics for the firing mechanism.


[Edited on 12.09.2012 5:19 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2012 2:39 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes I Hope to See

The human element always mucks things up.

A comprehensible story would be nice.

  • 12.09.2012 2:40 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes That I Think are Needed

Customs need improving the most.

  • 12.09.2012 2:40 AM PDT
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"The hero is the one who kindles a great light in the world, who sets up blazing torches in the dark streets of life for men to see by.
The saint is the man who walks through the dark paths of the world, himself a light."
-Felix Adler

Regenerator: remove glitch which doesn't regenerate shields after activation

  • 12.09.2012 2:41 AM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

I'm focused on balancing for this post.
Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Customs need improving the most.

  • 12.09.2012 2:41 AM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.

Matchmaking: Party vs Party, Randoms vs Randoms
Social Playlists: Right now the matchmaking only takes account the highest TS in the party when searching, I play with friends who aren't as skilled and experienced as I am, meaning they will get matched against way superior enemies, making the games unenjoyable for me, and them.

I refuse to play Halo 4 until they fix matchmaking, if I can't play a game with my friends, It's not worth my time or money.

  • 12.09.2012 2:42 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes I Hope to See

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

I would be fine with all of these changes.

  • 12.09.2012 2:42 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed

"Right now it is raining methane on Titan. The planet Uranus is, hilariously, orbiting the sun sideways while Venus spins backwards. We sit here on a planet marked with collisions, rocked by earthquakes, shaken by storms. A planet doomed to be fried in radiation as its magnetic fields collapse, until the sun grows and leaves nothing of the earth but dust. Here we sit, glasses on our noses, inhalers in our pockets, braces on our teeth, and we say "Behold the perfect ORDER of it all!""

meh

[Edited on 12.09.2012 2:43 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2012 2:42 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes That I Think are Needed

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

I've never seen this, does this happen for friendly ones or when using an enemy's?
Posted by: Emperor Gillard
Regenerator: remove glitch which doesn't regenerate shields after activation

  • 12.09.2012 2:47 AM PDT

/s

Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Customs need improving the most.

Oh my, I thought you hated the game! Oh, plz tell me how you can have an opinion on a game that you don't like! OH MY GOD! The confusion!

  • 12.09.2012 2:51 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed

Spit rounds like the gun range,
Beat it up like Rampage!

Offical Stats

Stop posting this, nothing will change.

[Edited on 12.09.2012 2:57 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2012 2:56 AM PDT

RIP Ginger

Spring 1997 - 6 January 2012

Bungie.net is not Halo Waypoint.

  • 12.09.2012 2:58 AM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

Already posted this on Waypoint, I got a warning for spam and a lot of people were calling me a whiner.
Posted by: Chris marines
Bungie.net is not Halo Waypoint.

  • 12.09.2012 2:59 AM PDT

RIP Ginger

Spring 1997 - 6 January 2012


Posted by: Failure4Life
Already posted this on Waypoint, I got a warning for spam and a lot of people were calling me a whiner.
Posted by: Chris marines
Bungie.net is not Halo Waypoint.
Ah fair enough.

  • 12.09.2012 3:04 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes That I Think are Needed

Pootis

The DMR needs to be changed too.

  • 12.09.2012 3:10 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.


Posted by: Failure4Life
Already posted this on Waypoint, I got a warning for spam and a lot of people were calling me a whiner.
Posted by: Chris marines
Bungie.net is not Halo Waypoint.


The level of dumb on those forums is shocking.

  • 12.09.2012 3:10 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes I Hope to See

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553

To be honest I don't care anymore. So many people like myself stopped playing this weeks ago. The game is already dead.

  • 12.09.2012 3:14 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

I think the DMR itself is fine, it's not blatantly overpowered, the Battle Rifle has a similar kill time and doesn't need a 12-shot kill buff like most people think; that would make it out class all the starters by far. That's why I put a minor buff that adds to its value but isn't a game changer.
Posted by: Shunfglol2
The DMR needs to be changed too.


[Edited on 12.09.2012 3:17 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2012 3:17 AM PDT

Pootis


Posted by: Failure4Life
I think the DMR itself is fine, it's not blatantly overpowered, the Battle Rifle has a similar kill time and doesn't need a 12-shot kill buff like most people think; that would make it out class all the starters by far. That's why I put a minor buff that adds to its value but isn't a game changer.
Posted by: Shunfglol2
The DMR needs to be changed too.

No. The DMR is just too powerful compared to all the other starting weapons.

  • 12.09.2012 3:19 AM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

The Light Rifle has a faster kill time and heavier flinch than it when zoomed and the Carbine has the same kill time if you land all the shots, the only problem I can see that makes it really good is its zoom.
Posted by: Shunfglol2

Posted by: Failure4Life
I think the DMR itself is fine, it's not blatantly overpowered, the Battle Rifle has a similar kill time and doesn't need a 12-shot kill buff like most people think; that would make it out class all the starters by far. That's why I put a minor buff that adds to its value but isn't a game changer.
Posted by: Shunfglol2
The DMR needs to be changed too.

No. The DMR is just too powerful compared to all the other starting weapons.

  • 12.09.2012 3:24 AM PDT

Pootis


Posted by: Failure4Life
The Light Rifle has a faster kill time and heavier flinch than it when zoomed and the Carbine has the same kill time if you land all the shots, the only problem I can see that makes it really good is its zoom.
Posted by: Shunfglol2

Posted by: Failure4Life
I think the DMR itself is fine, it's not blatantly overpowered, the Battle Rifle has a similar kill time and doesn't need a 12-shot kill buff like most people think; that would make it out class all the starters by far. That's why I put a minor buff that adds to its value but isn't a game changer.
Posted by: Shunfglol2
The DMR needs to be changed too.

No. The DMR is just too powerful compared to all the other starting weapons.

-Only nees 5 shots of 14 to kill someone (the carbine needs 9 of 18)
-Has the fastest killtime of all primaries(except zoomed in LR) and it's much faster than the BR
-Has the most bullet magnetism and aim assist of all precision rifles
-Has the largest range of all primaries

  • 12.09.2012 3:34 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Fixes That I Think are Needed

If I ever get AIDS, I'm going to sleep with another AIDS person so my AIDS cancel each other out, or I'm going to make the AIDS I already have worse.

The entire game needs to be fixed.

  • 12.09.2012 3:35 AM PDT

Just dance 4- Lindsey Stirling

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Off-topic question, has anyone seen the Daisho emblem yet?

  • 12.09.2012 3:36 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 Balancing Fixes That I Think are Needed
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The Banshee should also behave like in Reach; when you're trying to do a backflip with it in H4 when flying low you most likely hit the ground before doing the actual backflip.

[Edited on 12.09.2012 3:41 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2012 3:40 AM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

-Fair enough
-It's matched by the Carbine for kill time.
-I did not know that.
-Doesn't it have the same zoom as the Light Rifle and Battle Rifle?
Posted by: Shunfglol2

Posted by: Failure4Life
The Light Rifle has a faster kill time and heavier flinch than it when zoomed and the Carbine has the same kill time if you land all the shots, the only problem I can see that makes it really good is its zoom.
Posted by: Shunfglol2

Posted by: Failure4Life
I think the DMR itself is fine, it's not blatantly overpowered, the Battle Rifle has a similar kill time and doesn't need a 12-shot kill buff like most people think; that would make it out class all the starters by far. That's why I put a minor buff that adds to its value but isn't a game changer.
Posted by: Shunfglol2
The DMR needs to be changed too.

No. The DMR is just too powerful compared to all the other starting weapons.

-Only nees 5 shots of 14 to kill someone (the carbine needs 9 of 18)
-Has the fastest killtime of all primaries(except zoomed in LR) and it's much faster than the BR
-Has the most bullet magnetism and aim assist of all precision rifles
-Has the largest range of all primaries

  • 12.09.2012 3:40 AM PDT

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