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Haha!!! Just got it free! Live in USA too.

  • 12.10.2012 2:40 PM PDT

Well thats unfair... If everybody else got it for free why do I have to pay?

  • 12.10.2012 2:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
No I don't. ;~; Hey at least I asked before hand, instead of grabbing my pitch fork and screaming 'RAID THE STORE!!!!!!!!'
And for that you can take solace.


Yes, at least he can sleep tonight knowing that he has not dishonored all generations that have come before and that will come after him.

But on a serious note, they're (M$) the ones who screwed up.

Go ahead and stick it to the man.

  • 12.10.2012 2:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Hylebos
If you expect fairness, act in a fair and reasonable manner.
There's absolutely nothing unfair or unreasonable in acquiring a good for the price advertised and demanded by the retailer.


Just because Microsoft is letting you get away with it doesn't morally justify your actions, no more so than people looting stores in a wake of a disaster are justified because there is too much chaos to actually prosecute people.
Woah dude. That's way to extreme, it's more like a store messing up an ad or coupon, and listing, I don't know, a TV for $10 instead of $100, or listing Coke Products as get one free when it intended to be buy one get one free.

Raiding a store and taking stuff for free that DOES cost money isn't the equivalent of someone turning on their Xbox, seeing a map pack for free, and downloading it.

  • 12.10.2012 2:41 PM PDT

Posted by: masterdrone
The season pass is pretty much the only reason anyone bought the Limited Edition, the convenience about it was the whole point. It's not like the LE comes with anything else. Anyone who bought the season pass separately should also get a refund. Personally, I don't care that much though, it's just one map pack.

I downloaded Fable II for free off of Xbox Live once too.
The season pass is on the marketplace... why did you need LE?

Just saying, you can rationalize it all you want. You still got what you paid for and they don't owe you a refund. While it would be nice of them to refund you, and some of you probably deserve it, it's probably not gonna happen.

  • 12.10.2012 2:42 PM PDT
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Without The Flood, I wouldn't know what an opinion is.

This must be the first time this has happened to a major (or currently popular) title. I recall things like this have happened before, but never like this.

  • 12.10.2012 2:42 PM PDT
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Oh God lol. I am SO glad I decided to go on Bnet. Looks like I won't be purchasing the War Games pass.

  • 12.10.2012 2:43 PM PDT
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I got the map pass and I ain't even mad. Am I the only one who got 2000 MSP along with the map pass?

  • 12.10.2012 2:43 PM PDT
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Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.

  • 12.10.2012 2:43 PM PDT


Posted by: Michael Balzary

Posted by: About 540 Jews
Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.
Well what the Hell it says 800 ms points for me. For all of my profiles.

  • 12.10.2012 2:44 PM PDT


Posted by: Michael Balzary

Posted by: About 540 Jews
Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.

How? It's 800 msp for me...

  • 12.10.2012 2:45 PM PDT


Posted by: About 540 Jews

Posted by: Michael Balzary

Posted by: About 540 Jews
Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.
Well what the Hell it says 800 ms points for me. For all of my profiles.
Only works for some, you're out of luck.

  • 12.10.2012 2:45 PM PDT

Derp

is it a bannable offense?

  • 12.10.2012 2:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Garrux
Posted by: masterdrone
The season pass is pretty much the only reason anyone bought the Limited Edition, the convenience about it was the whole point. It's not like the LE comes with anything else. Anyone who bought the season pass separately should also get a refund. Personally, I don't care that much though, it's just one map pack.

I downloaded Fable II for free off of Xbox Live once too.
The season pass is on the marketplace... why did you need LE?

Just saying, you can rationalize it all you want. You still got what you paid for and they don't owe you a refund. While it would be nice of them to refund you, and some of you probably deserve it, it's probably not gonna happen.
They should at least give us something extra for this. Since we already paid for the season pass which contained 3 map packs

  • 12.10.2012 2:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Hylebos
If you expect fairness, act in a fair and reasonable manner.
There's absolutely nothing unfair or unreasonable in acquiring a good for the price advertised and demanded by the retailer.
As you yourself said, it was flagrantly unintentional, that much is evident by the apparent fact that you need to access the marketplace in a very specific way in order to download the content for free. Any other attempt would require you to pay out of pocket.

Just because Microsoft is letting you get away with it doesn't morally justify your actions, no more so than people looting stores in a wake of a disaster are justified because there is too much chaos to actually prosecute people.

Perhaps that last example was a tad hyperbole, I mean, on the scale of rehensibillity, downloading a $10 map pack for free is in the shallow side of the kiddie pool, it just frustrates me that people take advantage of things like this and then go "Oh, I'd better not get banned for this! I totally didn't know what I was doing was wrong!" as they are winking, grinning, and high fiving all of their friends.
It was hyperbole because it was actual theft, and what's going on with Crimson is not theft at all, in a criminal sense.

I disagree that anything is wrong with this, per se. MS, whether by accident or design, is telling consumers to take the maps for free. No one is in the wrong for doing so. MS, the merchant, is responsible for the error, not the customers, and so MS rightly should bear the blame and take the consequences (which, to their credit, they seem to be doing).

For comparison's sake, this is different than the Halo: Reach beta when lots of people signed up for MS' retailer rewards program to get into the Reach beta early -- that definitely was wrong on the users part.

  • 12.10.2012 2:46 PM PDT
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Nope, but I don't think you can get it anymore.

I got it just in time! :D
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is it a bannable offense?

  • 12.10.2012 2:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Garrux

Posted by: About 540 Jews

Posted by: Michael Balzary

Posted by: About 540 Jews
Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.
Well what the Hell it says 800 ms points for me. For all of my profiles.
Only works for some, you're out of luck.
I guess so. Oh well *Goes back to playing farCry 3*

  • 12.10.2012 2:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Simse11

Posted by: Michael Balzary

Posted by: About 540 Jews
Dang its back up to 800 ms points. Oh well I wasn't planning on getting it anyways. Im done with Halo.

Pretty sure it's not, I just did it minutes ago.

How? It's 800 msp for me...

Are you accessing it through the Halo 4 menu? Do you live in the US?

  • 12.10.2012 2:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garrux
Posted by: masterdrone
The season pass is pretty much the only reason anyone bought the Limited Edition, the convenience about it was the whole point. It's not like the LE comes with anything else. Anyone who bought the season pass separately should also get a refund. Personally, I don't care that much though, it's just one map pack.

I downloaded Fable II for free off of Xbox Live once too.
The season pass is on the marketplace... why did you need LE?

Just saying, you can rationalize it all you want. You still got what you paid for and they don't owe you a refund. While it would be nice of them to refund you, and some of you probably deserve it, it's probably not gonna happen.
They should at least give us something extra for this. Since we already paid for the season pass which contained 3 map packs
No they shouldn't, and they won't. What did you pay for? The 3 map packs? And you're getting those 3 map packs, aren't you (what other people did or didn't pay to get them is irrelevant, we're discussing a sale between two parties: you and Microsoft)? So why should you be refunded when you've gotten (or will get) all you've paid for?

  • 12.10.2012 2:48 PM PDT

Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Hylebos
If you expect fairness, act in a fair and reasonable manner.
There's absolutely nothing unfair or unreasonable in acquiring a good for the price advertised and demanded by the retailer.


Just because Microsoft is letting you get away with it doesn't morally justify your actions, no more so than people looting stores in a wake of a disaster are justified because there is too much chaos to actually prosecute people.
Woah dude. That's way to extreme, it's more like a store messing up an ad or coupon, and listing, I don't know, a TV for $10 instead of $100, or listing Coke Products as get one free when it intended to be buy one get one free.

Raiding a store and taking stuff for free that DOES cost money isn't the equivalent of someone turning on their Xbox, seeing a map pack for free, and downloading it.
Again, you can take some solace in the fact that you asked before downloading the map pack, and at least brought it to the attention of the people who could fix it.

As for your analogy, I see it more like finding a loaf of bread at the grocery store that did not have a price tag on it. To assume that the store clearly didn't want to sell this piece of bread is silly, and it would be wrong for you to simply walk out with it.

Naturally if you asked an employee if you could take the bread, they would say no, and put a price tag on it, because a grocery store is pretty small scale compared to a global game marketplace. It's why I made more of a comparison to disaster looting because it does a better job capturing the idea of the volume of people participating in this mad rush to grab stuff off the shelves. So many people that it would be unpractical to track down and prosecute every single person who participated.

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  • 12.10.2012 2:49 PM PDT

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

No refunds.

  • 12.10.2012 2:50 PM PDT

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It's at 800 for me :/

  • 12.10.2012 2:50 PM PDT


Posted by: RighteousTyrant

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Garrux
Posted by: masterdrone
The season pass is pretty much the only reason anyone bought the Limited Edition, the convenience about it was the whole point. It's not like the LE comes with anything else. Anyone who bought the season pass separately should also get a refund. Personally, I don't care that much though, it's just one map pack.

I downloaded Fable II for free off of Xbox Live once too.
The season pass is on the marketplace... why did you need LE?

Just saying, you can rationalize it all you want. You still got what you paid for and they don't owe you a refund. While it would be nice of them to refund you, and some of you probably deserve it, it's probably not gonna happen.
They should at least give us something extra for this. Since we already paid for the season pass which contained 3 map packs
No they shouldn't, and they won't. What did you pay for? The 3 map packs? And you're getting those 3 map packs, aren't you (what other people did or didn't pay to get them is irrelevant, we're discussing a sale between two parties: you and Microsoft)? So why should you be refunded when you've gotten (or will get) all you've paid for?
It's not fair that he paid for something that others are getting for free. Its bad business.

  • 12.10.2012 2:50 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.

Lucky bastards :P

  • 12.10.2012 2:50 PM PDT