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Subject: Ok, I think its safe to say 343i have -blam!- it.


Posted by: FriendlyStu16

Posted by: Ex0 Dante

Posted by: VitalHalofreak
First the LE mishap, then the spec code debacle, now this.
-blam!- THIS -blam!- COMPANY.


There was never a spec code debacle. Everyone was crying because they didn't get it on launch or two weeks after because they were boosting the crap out of their accounts. They just handed out the codes because everybody was whining too much.


I think its more to do with Europe being singled out on the Spec-Codes.


EU had a pre-order bonus of launch day access. The US players found that unfair, so they whined. 343 bent over and offered that 2 week program. But, then the other EU players got upset.

There's no debacle here. They did what they thought was the right move. It certainly got the pre-order numbers up.

Specs will get released over time, so let's just deal with it and enjoy the game. I know that's impossible now a day, but try it. You will thank me later.

  • 12.10.2012 2:18 PM PDT


Posted by: OdorousLicense3
ITT: Buttmad fanboys who can't accept that Halo 4 is horrible


I'm sorry, I just find Halo 4 to be one of the most enjoyable Halo games in awhile, the campaign, Spartan Ops and multiplayer are just great. I actually want to play multiplayer more often, unlike some past Halo games. 343 did an excellent job on this game. Like others have already said, this looks more like a MS mistake, accidents happen.

  • 12.10.2012 2:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dead FallingCP

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Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Blame microsoft for all DLC issues. 343i made an amazing game, but the over hype and un-meetable expectations of the fans made it seem awful. Theres also the fact that people ignore the large amounts of good and concentrate on the little parts that are bad.


Making sure that custom game options and Forge worked correctly isn't exactly an un-meetable expectation now is it? Nor is including Assault of classic CTF, or even a pre-game lobby that works correctly?

The only issues that us Halo fans should be discussing is the gameplay which is a matter of opinion and taste, but the reality is that Halo 4 has actual broken and missing features.


Custom games-Only one game mode was missed. Don't whine about that single game mode.

Missing Game Modes-Boohoo your missing 2 game modes. Why not try out regicide, dominion, or the revamped Grifball when that comes out?


Its more the principle of the thing. All the code pre existed for these gametypes and customs and they managed to F them all up.


You don't know that the code existed for halo 4's engine. Ask 343 about that, not conspiracy.net.

Only flood mode was messed up in regards to customs. Forge is glitchy, but that is to be expected for such a young game.


They built the Halo 4 engine off of the Reach engine, which Bungie gave them regularly. And even if it wasnt compatiable with the Halo 4 engine, the code is still there is use and implement.

  • 12.10.2012 2:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Blame microsoft for all DLC issues. 343i made an amazing game, but the over hype and un-meetable expectations of the fans made it seem awful. Theres also the fact that people ignore the large amounts of good and concentrate on the little parts that are bad.


Making sure that custom game options and Forge worked correctly isn't exactly an un-meetable expectation now is it? Nor is including Assault of classic CTF, or even a pre-game lobby that works correctly?

The only issues that us Halo fans should be discussing is the gameplay which is a matter of opinion and taste, but the reality is that Halo 4 has actual broken and missing features.


Custom games-Only one game mode was missed. Don't whine about that single game mode.

Missing Game Modes-Boohoo your missing 2 game modes. Why not try out regicide, dominion, or the revamped Grifball when that comes out?


I'm not just talking about missing modes. I'm talking about broken options, like instant respawn toggle having no effect. Trying to turn the grifball into a bomb doesn't work. Can't remove sprint. Can't restrict AAs. Can't place weapons directly on maps. Can't change weapon despawn times. And on and on and on and on.

Then theres Forge as well. Lots of lag, no fine tuning, broken palettes, lighting doesn't work. Oh and the file browser doesn't work. Ranks are being bolted on after release, just to help confirm the game was released incomplete.

The little details one by one don't seem like a big deal, but together they make a massive difference. The difference between a game that I could play for years and a game that I've already stopped playing and regret buying.

I don't mind issues of gameplay balance because I can understand how difficult it must be to tune that to satisfy everyone. However Halo 4 has issues that were easy to avoid through even the most basic of testing;

"Oh! Guys custom game options don't work!"
"Thanks for this, we'll fix that before we release it to the ENTIRE WORLD BROKEN AND INCOMPLETE."

You know? Easy.

  • 12.10.2012 2:23 PM PDT


Posted by: SPARTANxB292TOM

Posted by: OdorousLicense3
ITT: Buttmad fanboys who can't accept that Halo 4 is horrible


I'm sorry, I just find Halo 4 to be one of the most enjoyable Halo games in awhile, the campaign, Spartan Ops and multiplayer are just great. I actually want to play multiplayer more often, unlike some past Halo games. 343 did an excellent job on this game. Like others have already said, this looks more like a MS mistake, accidents happen.
It's funny that he called you buttmad when he's clearly the buttmad one.

You guys are priceless. This forum is teeming with utter stupidity and butthurt-ness recently it's hilarious.

  • 12.10.2012 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Zanir
"Less than 100,000 were on today"

Have you considered that just two hours ago, a ton of people got out of school?
I swear everyone uses lame excuses to make up for a bad game that will Never be as good population wise as halo 3.

  • 12.10.2012 2:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
Nor is including Assault

Be fair, did anyone consistently play assault? No. Why waste time and resources on something that no one would use, there's clearly a lot of work that needed to be done(and still needs to be done)

[Edited on 12.10.2012 2:31 PM PST]

  • 12.10.2012 2:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarkJet7
Posted by: flamedude
Nor is including Assault

Be fair, did anyone consistently play assault? No. Why waste time and resources on something that no one would use, there's clearly a lot of work that needed to be done(and still needs to be done)


Well yeah of course they did. Assault appeared regularly in BTB and Team Objective just as much as CTF.

No idea how it could be considered a waste of resource to include a feature that has been in the game since Halo 1.

  • 12.10.2012 2:33 PM PDT


Posted by: DarkJet7

Posted by: flamedude
Nor is including Assault

Be fair, did anyone consistently play assault? No. Why waste time and resources on something that no one would use, there's clearly a lot of work that needed to be done(and still needs to be done)


What do you mean time and resources? Pretty much all they needed was a bomb texture, pretty much everything else was still their in reachs coding. It should have been a simple port.

  • 12.10.2012 2:34 PM PDT

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Yeah also the fact that 343 had no problem copying the 3D models for the Scorpion, Ghost, Banshee, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets they would have had no problem copying the bomb model.

  • 12.10.2012 2:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garrux
It's funny that he called you buttmad when he's clearly the buttmad one.
Oh the delicious irony.

Try taking a look at your post history for a second.

  • 12.10.2012 2:41 PM PDT

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