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Subject: If halo 1 pistol is brung back, these should be the changes.
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Posted by: The Lone Heretic
Everyone keeps talking about balance and realism. I favor realism over balance. Tell me, would the Chief live if I shot him in the face with a .50 Calibre revolver? No.


If you favor realism over balance, then I have a suggestion for you:

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=950401

Play that instead.

Your argument for realism is null and void when you are talking about a game where fight aliens that breathe methane and shoot plasma.

  • 07.04.2006 10:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: SorbinThrilla
Posted by: The Lone Heretic
Everyone keeps talking about balance and realism. I favor realism over balance. Tell me, would the Chief live if I shot him in the face with a .50 Calibre revolver? No.


If you favor realism over balance, then I have a suggestion for you:

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=950401

Play that instead.

Your argument for realism is null and void when you are talking about a game where fight aliens that breathe methane and shoot plasma.


i dont usualy say this but OWNED!!!

  • 07.04.2006 10:20 PM PDT
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If you didn't realise it is intended as satire, then I am about as pwned as anyone on this site.

[Edited on 7/4/2006]

  • 07.04.2006 10:24 PM PDT
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I love how alot of people calll the Halo:CE pistol cheap. LOL....I won't get into my full argument on why this isn't true, but lets take a step back.

Anyone ever play Goldeneye on the N64? Rmember the GOLD GUN? It was the pistol that was a 1 shot kill. No one ever complained about that gun. Yet, you have a 3-shot kill pistol(if you were even skilled enough to pull it off), mostly 5-7 shot kill, and you whine your little hearts out. Some fool earlier posted the reason that the Pistol is wanted back is because "you people suck at halo2". Not true. The people who don't want it back sucked at Halo:CE or never even played it, and have gotten way too comfortable with their no-skilled sword lunges and pp/br combo's.

And I've said it many times, it may need to be tweaked on the power level(and not DW), but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be returned to the game. And if by chance it is, I really, really hope they leave your precioius, yet stupid, BR/pp combo and sword lunge in the game.....You're going to need them

  • 07.04.2006 11:07 PM PDT
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I am still a faithfull player of Halo 1, i quit Halo 2 over a year ago, haven't looked back. Yet Halo 1 is still the game to play with my friends for LAN parties, why? Because its so simple, halo 1 is simply better, you got health bar, better POV, better weapon balance.

The Balance in Halo 1 was PERFECT. The pistol was an all around weapon good in any scenario, the shotty if dealy up close and could own the pistol in a matter of seconds, rocket launcher is self explanitory.

All the arguments about the pistol being too powerfull is such BS. Halo 1 was the PERFECT game, I am kind of bummed that Bungie thinks that the pistol was a "flaw" when it was probably an accident to begin with. I have no faith in bungie to make a good Halo 3, i hope they prove me wrong. But you can count on this, they won't be getting a pre-order from me with the -blam!- job they did with Halo 2.

-Hutz

  • 07.05.2006 10:07 AM PDT
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.) No scope attachment
2.) Duel wield capable
3.) Simular power as Halo 1 pistol (maybe a three headshot kill)
4.) Low accuracy (even worse accuracy while dueling)
5.) Slow rate of fire (as slow as Battle Rifle)
6.) 8 shot clip
7.) Uncommon find in multi-player


it would be easier to just keep it out of the game.

  • 07.05.2006 10:15 AM PDT
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The magnum pistol in Halo 2 was just fine, leave it alone.

  • 07.05.2006 10:16 AM PDT
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If the pistol were to return in Halo 3, it shouldn't have any changes done.

People that say it was "too strong"...are the same people that say the noob combo is balanced.

The pistol was great if you knew how to use it. Each weapon played a part. The Assault Rifle served several purposes, one being that it worked like a dream against vehicles, it was also good at close range, AND it served as a good companion to the pistol. Not to mention it held over 600 rounds.

The plasma rifle was also a close range weapon, but was even better if you used it against an escaping flag carrier on foot, because the plasma had a freezing effect.

The plasma pistol had less tracking than the Halo 2 plasma pistol, and it also had a special ability: it coud remove a shield no matter what. You could remove someone's overshield if they were in a tank, so the plasma pistol was very useful, and it is factual that it required more skill than the halo 2 plasma pistol.

The flamethrower in Halo PC was not only a good close range weapon, but you could spin around and damage any enemies around you, and the burning effect depleted their health even after they escaped. A grenade would be a finishing touch.

The rocket launcher was great against vehicles, and great at close range. It took the most skill at long range, and was great against groups of enemies.

The shotgun was undoubtedly the best at close ranges, and was great as a surprise weapon.

The sniper rifle excelled at long range.

The fuel rod cannon was weaker than the rocket launcher, yet it could easily arc over hills.
The needler was good if you stood out of the way and let the needles track the enemy. It was great at medmium range.

And rthe pistol. The pistol excelled at medium-long range, and killed in three head shots, or 5 body shots. Before anyone says "omg three shots is too strong," let me tell you, the pistol is difficult to aim. Harder to aim than with the BR. The pistol was also not that great against vehicles.

There you have it; at close range, the shotgun, flamethrower, fuel rod gun, rocket launcher, plasma rifle, and assault rifle are better than the pistol. At medium range, the needler, fuel rod cannon, or another pistol would be good against the pistol. Maybe even a plasma pistol. At long range, the sniper rifle is the best.

Balanced? Yes. The Halo 1 pistol is fine.

[Edited on 7/5/2006]

  • 07.05.2006 10:29 AM PDT

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