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Well anyone who got the War Games Pass isn't really screwed over yet. Now if the other two map packs are like this, then that would be a rip off against the War Games Pass buyers. But until then, I'm not whining for a refund.

Posted by: Sparkfire
That's all well and good if that's your mentality, but that's not the way the LE was advertised. The season pass sold separately is $24.99, which was bundled with the LE. You still paid for the maps.

  • 12.10.2012 8:43 PM PDT


Posted by: Sparkfire
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Thats really good for the game population then isnt it.

People who got it for free, get it taken away, get mad, and quit halo.

great business strat.


They have no reason to get mad since those who intended to buy it would be able to do so, and those who didn't wouldn't. Nothing that was expected would be lost. If 2000 people who got it for free had intended to buy the DLC, 2000 people will still buy it if it was revoked till they paid.

If 2500 ended up with DLC but the 500 did not intend to buy it, then the only thing that was lost was the surplus, which only benefits population and not profit.


I actually was going to buy it, But the maps are horrible.

if they took it away from me, I wouldnt buy it.

  • 12.10.2012 8:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sparkfire
Posted by: ArchNinja64
>Got legendary addition
>Got map packs with it


>Want to get compensated for getting what they paid for


Am I missing something here?


They want to get compensated because other people didn't pay for what they got and/or because they missed out on the opportunity to get something they intended to buy for free.


But it wasn't intentional. Just because a mistake was made and some people benefited from it doesn't mean 343 owes anyone anything

  • 12.10.2012 8:44 PM PDT
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I regret posting in this thread.

I wanna refund.

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Wahhhh muh 10 dollars, now I have 10 less dollars for doritos and mountain dew!!

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$.50 in store credit.


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Posted by: AK FROST
However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.
And yet, i'm not upset at all.

Please, show me where on the LE it says i'm saving money this way, or that nobody else would get a better deal, or that the DLC would never be free.
Actually I'm talking about the separate season pass not the limited edition.
As far as i'm aware, that doesnt say anything about the DLC never going free or about saving money. Doesn't it just say "Get all three DLCs paid for at once"?

It's just a risk that comes with putting clearly non-refundable money down on something ahead of time. Yeah, you might miss out on a deal. That's a risk.
I'm not sure if you were aware but a special value means at a cheaper price, see quote above.
Special Value.

No, it does not mean cheaper price. By definition, the season pass's 'special value' means that the 'monetary worth' will be 'different from what is ordinary or usual.' You certainly paid a different price than the usual. You weren't lied to in any way shape or form.

And before anyone acuses me of twisting the meanings of the words, feel free to mix and match the various definitions and see if you can come up with any that literally say "cheaper price" or anything to that effect.

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Posted by: Gaara444
Well anyone who got the War Games Pass isn't really screwed over yet. Now if the other two map packs are like this, then that would be a rip off against the War Games Pass buyers. But until then, I'm not whining for a refund.

Posted by: Sparkfire
That's all well and good if that's your mentality, but that's not the way the LE was advertised. The season pass sold separately is $24.99, which was bundled with the LE. You still paid for the maps.


If this was intentional then you'd be in every right to be upset and request compensation/refunds. However, that reality doesn't exist beyond conspiracy theories.

This has cost Microsoft money and does nothing positive other than slightly increase the number of people with the DLC.

  • 12.10.2012 8:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xvise66
Wahhhh muh 10 dollars, now I have 10 less dollars for doritos and mountain dew!!
Ten bucks is chump change, to be sure. But if somebody just took it from me in a deal I thought was unfair, I'd be kind of pissed too.

  • 12.10.2012 8:46 PM PDT


Posted by: ArchNinja64
>Got legendary addition
>Got map packs with it


>Want to get compensated for getting what they paid for


Am I missing something here?
buys seperates map pass for a better value as quoted 1/3 of the content is given away I am now paying more for less content it is false advertisement and illegal for any war games map pass buyers separate from le.

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Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: Sparkfire
Posted by: ArchNinja64
>Got legendary addition
>Got map packs with it


>Want to get compensated for getting what they paid for


Am I missing something here?


They want to get compensated because other people didn't pay for what they got and/or because they missed out on the opportunity to get something they intended to buy for free.


But it wasn't intentional. Just because a mistake was made and some people benefited from it doesn't mean 343 owes anyone anything


They don't. There are only 3 things that will happen now:

1. People who paid will get some free avatar -blam!-
2. People who didn't pay will not be able to play the maps online till they do
3. Nothing will happen



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  • 12.10.2012 8:47 PM PDT



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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Sparkfire

[quote]Posted by: The EAKLE

[quote]Posted by: Xxembers


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However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.

Not really if i got everything for what i paid for, you pay for a product because you like it and are determined that you are going to pay for that price and anything that happens to it in the future won't matter.
Yes however if you fail to see my point with false advertisement I don't know what to tell you.

Not really false advertising if it was completely unintended.

  • 12.10.2012 8:47 PM PDT

Half of the time I'm dead serious.
The other half not so much.

I bought the LE and am not really that upset by the opportunity, because I know that I would love the chance if I got it...in fact, I tried to get my friend to do it to see if he could get them for free, but unfortunately, he didn't receive the option. Rats!

  • 12.10.2012 8:47 PM PDT



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Posted by: AK FROST
However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.[/quote]And yet, i'm not upset at all.

Please, show me where on the LE it says i'm saving money this way, or that nobody else would get a better deal, or that the DLC would never be free.[/quote] Actually I'm talking about the separate season pass not the limited edition.[/quote]As far as i'm aware, that doesnt say anything about the DLC never going free or about saving money. Doesn't it just say "Get all three DLCs paid for at once"?

It's just a risk that comes with putting clearly non-refundable money down on something ahead of time. Yeah, you might miss out on a deal. That's a risk. [/quote] I'm not sure if you were aware but a special value means at a cheaper price, see quote above.
Special Value.

No, it does not mean cheaper price. By definition, the season pass's 'special value' means that the 'monetary worth' will be 'different from what is ordinary or usual.' You certainly paid a different price than the usual. You weren't lied to in any way shape or form.

And before anyone acuses me of twisting the meanings of the words, feel free to mix and match the various definitions and see if you can come up with any that literally say "cheaper price" or anything to that effect.
Given that definition I am now paying more buying the map pass then I would have been dishing out 1600 and getting this one for free. Hence false advertisement.

  • 12.10.2012 8:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.


Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: ArchNinja64
>Got legendary addition
>Got map packs with it


>Want to get compensated for getting what they paid for


Am I missing something here?
buys seperates map pass for a better value as quoted 1/3 of the content is given away I am now paying more for less content it is false advertisement and illegal for any war games map pass buyers separate from le.
It never said better value. You assumed that. That's not anyone's fault but your own.

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Posted by: Sparkfire
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Thats really good for the game population then isnt it.

People who got it for free, get it taken away, get mad, and quit halo.

great business strat.


They have no reason to get mad since those who intended to buy it would be able to do so, and those who didn't wouldn't. Nothing that was expected would be lost. If 2000 people who got it for free had intended to buy the DLC, 2000 people will still buy it if it was revoked till they paid.

If 2500 ended up with DLC but the 500 did not intend to buy it, then the only thing that was lost was the surplus, which only benefits population and not profit.


I actually was going to buy it, But the maps are horrible.

if they took it away from me, I wouldnt buy it.


Exactly. Either way, Microsoft/343 loses.

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Posted by: Xvise66
Wahhhh muh 10 dollars, now I have 10 less dollars for doritos and mountain dew!!
Ten bucks is chump change, to be sure. But if somebody just took it from me in a deal I thought was unfair, I'd be kind of pissed too.
Took it from you in a deal you thought was unfair? You certainly thought it was a fair deal to pay 25 bucks for the map pass(or the extra money for the LE), and you agreed to pay the amount of money.

  • 12.10.2012 8:49 PM PDT

Epsilon?

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Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.


Posted by: AK FROST


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Posted by: AK FROST
However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.[/quote]And yet, i'm not upset at all.

Please, show me where on the LE it says i'm saving money this way, or that nobody else would get a better deal, or that the DLC would never be free.[/quote] Actually I'm talking about the separate season pass not the limited edition.[/quote]As far as i'm aware, that doesnt say anything about the DLC never going free or about saving money. Doesn't it just say "Get all three DLCs paid for at once"?

It's just a risk that comes with putting clearly non-refundable money down on something ahead of time. Yeah, you might miss out on a deal. That's a risk. [/quote] I'm not sure if you were aware but a special value means at a cheaper price, see quote above.
Special Value.

No, it does not mean cheaper price. By definition, the season pass's 'special value' means that the 'monetary worth' will be 'different from what is ordinary or usual.' You certainly paid a different price than the usual. You weren't lied to in any way shape or form.

And before anyone acuses me of twisting the meanings of the words, feel free to mix and match the various definitions and see if you can come up with any that literally say "cheaper price" or anything to that effect.
Given that definition I am now paying more buying the map pass then I would have been dishing out 1600 and getting this one for free. Hence false advertisement.
No. It never said youd pay less money. It said you'd pay a different amount of money. And you did. Accurate advertising.

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I'm actually pissed I missed out. My lameass job would require me to work like two hours to buy those maps and now I could have gotten them for free. That sucks.

  • 12.10.2012 8:50 PM PDT


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Posted by: Xvise66
Wahhhh muh 10 dollars, now I have 10 less dollars for doritos and mountain dew!!
Ten bucks is chump change, to be sure. But if somebody just took it from me in a deal I thought was unfair, I'd be kind of pissed too.


It wasn't a deal, it was a glitch in the system. There's little else to say about t but "-blam!- like this happens, sometimes you get screwed by a simple mistake, life isn't fair, a week from now you'll (hopefully) not care anymore, so get over it."

I bought the LE too. I do not care anymore about this than I did when retailers started sending the game out early and MS let them have it.

  • 12.10.2012 8:51 PM PDT

There's a good philosophy to live by:

S*** happens.

You just have to accept the little things that happen sometimes. it isn't going to ruin your life. It is just a minor feeling of being ripped off. I understand you point of view, but you got what you expected by paying. Some people just got lucky.

[Edited on 12.10.2012 8:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: The EAKLE
No. It never said youd pay less money. It said you'd pay a different amount of money. And you did. Accurate advertising.


Wat

Isn't less a different amount than what it is less than?

What are you guys even going on about? The LE hasn't changed at all in terms of what was included with it. They just decided to give away some of its contents under certain circumstances for a limited amount of time. Everybody still ended up paying for that content in some way. The only legitimate rip-off were the specializations, but that ordeal ended 20 days ago IIRC and was surrounded by its own -blam!- storm.

[Edited on 12.10.2012 8:53 PM PST]

  • 12.10.2012 8:52 PM PDT


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Posted by: AK FROST


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Posted by: AK FROST
However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.[/quote]And yet, i'm not upset at all.

Please, show me where on the LE it says i'm saving money this way, or that nobody else would get a better deal, or that the DLC would never be free.[/quote] Actually I'm talking about the separate season pass not the limited edition.[/quote]As far as i'm aware, that doesnt say anything about the DLC never going free or about saving money. Doesn't it just say "Get all three DLCs paid for at once"?

It's just a risk that comes with putting clearly non-refundable money down on something ahead of time. Yeah, you might miss out on a deal. That's a risk. [/quote] I'm not sure if you were aware but a special value means at a cheaper price, see quote above.
Special Value.

No, it does not mean cheaper price. By definition, the season pass's 'special value' means that the 'monetary worth' will be 'different from what is ordinary or usual.' You certainly paid a different price than the usual. You weren't lied to in any way shape or form.

And before anyone acuses me of twisting the meanings of the words, feel free to mix and match the various definitions and see if you can come up with any that literally say "cheaper price" or anything to that effect.
Given that definition I am now paying more buying the map pass then I would have been dishing out 1600 and getting this one for free. Hence false advertisement.
No. It never said youd pay less money. It said you'd pay a different amount of money. And you did. Accurate advertising.
Implying paying more money for a special value? And that could be very well misleading if the reasonable person test was applied.

[Edited on 12.10.2012 8:54 PM PST]

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$.50 in store credit.


Posted by: AK FROST

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Posted by: AK FROST


Posted by: The EAKLE

Posted by: AK FROST
However we were promised a deal to save on these map packs given your
Logic you would be upset too.[/quote]And yet, i'm not upset at all.

Please, show me where on the LE it says i'm saving money this way, or that nobody else would get a better deal, or that the DLC would never be free.[/quote] Actually I'm talking about the separate season pass not the limited edition.[/quote]As far as i'm aware, that doesnt say anything about the DLC never going free or about saving money. Doesn't it just say "Get all three DLCs paid for at once"?

It's just a risk that comes with putting clearly non-refundable money down on something ahead of time. Yeah, you might miss out on a deal. That's a risk. [/quote] I'm not sure if you were aware but a special value means at a cheaper price, see quote above.
Special Value.

No, it does not mean cheaper price. By definition, the season pass's 'special value' means that the 'monetary worth' will be 'different from what is ordinary or usual.' You certainly paid a different price than the usual. You weren't lied to in any way shape or form.

And before anyone acuses me of twisting the meanings of the words, feel free to mix and match the various definitions and see if you can come up with any that literally say "cheaper price" or anything to that effect.
Given that definition I am now paying more buying the map pass then I would have been dishing out 1600 and getting this one for free. Hence false advertisement.
No. It never said youd pay less money. It said you'd pay a different amount of money. And you did. Accurate advertising.
Implying paying more money for a special value?
Exactly. It never said less, you assumed less. Special could mean less, or more, or free, or anything. You just assumed less and turned out to be wrong.

  • 12.10.2012 8:54 PM PDT