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Subject: So Uh... How Much Of Halo 4 Did 343 Actually Make?

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So apparently... 343 didn't make the Crimson Map Pack, but Certain Affinity did. and apparently Certain Affinity didn't make the map pack either... Digital Extreme did.

Oh but apparently Certain Affinity made the Forge... Oh and Certain Affinity also created a number of on-disc multiplayer maps and the Dominion gametype.

and 343 never made any of the CGI stuff... Axis Animation did


Didn't Bungie also basically pitch and give ideas for Prometheans as well?

So... what exactly did 343 make in their 5 or so years of Development for Halo 4?

Oh and something I forgot. This game runs on a modified Reach engine... which means they didn't even have to make an engine. Just edit/modify/fix Bungie's engine...

With how little (?) 343 actually did, I almost wonder how this game took 3-5 years to make... Doesn't seem like a game with 3-5 years of development.

[Edited on 12.11.2012 10:13 AM PST]

  • 12.11.2012 10:00 AM PDT

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Almost all of it.

  • 12.11.2012 10:00 AM PDT
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  • 12.11.2012 10:01 AM PDT
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Use a real world analogy- like a contractor building a house. 343 is the white man overseeing all the Mexican illegal immigrants doing the actual work.

  • 12.11.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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So they made the only good part of the game?

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  • 12.11.2012 10:04 AM PDT

343 is the main builder normally they do work as much. But it seemed odd how this game came together and shipped as a beta given it took 5 years to create.

  • 12.11.2012 10:04 AM PDT

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Use a real world analogy- like a contractor building a house. 343 is the white man overseeing all the Mexican illegal immigrants doing the actual work.
I like this analogy. It was the same with Bungie in Halo Reach. Certain Affinity worked on the defiant map pack while Bungie oversaw it and collected the money.

  • 12.11.2012 10:05 AM PDT

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Oh and something I forgot. This game runs on a modified Reach engine... which means they didn't even have to make an engine. Just edit/modify/fix Bungie's engine...

With how little (?) 343 actually did, I almost wonder how this game took 3-5 years to make... Doesn't seem like a game with 3-5 years of development.

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Don't see how it matters.

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Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
Oh and something I forgot. This game runs on a modified Reach engine... which means they didn't even have to make an engine. Just edit/modify/fix Bungie's engine...

With how little (?) 343 actually did, I almost wonder how this game took 3-5 years to make... Doesn't seem like a game with 3-5 years of development.
Well guys let's sit around for 4 and a half years collect a paycheck then well work half ass
On the game. And fix it later because we're a lazy developer.

  • 12.11.2012 10:15 AM PDT

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Use a real world analogy- like a contractor building a house. 343 is the white man overseeing all the Mexican illegal immigrants doing the actual work.
I like this analogy. It was the same with Bungie in Halo Reach. Certain Affinity worked on the defiant map pack while Bungie oversaw it and collected the money.


You mean Microsoft. At the time of the release of Defiant's map DLC, Bungie wasn't managing Halo anymore, it was 343.

Also I still see no legitimate a good answer, just 343 fanboys defending 343's lazy work.

[Edited on 12.11.2012 10:21 AM PST]

  • 12.11.2012 10:19 AM PDT

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Even if 343 made the game, it'd still be crap.

  • 12.11.2012 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
Oh and something I forgot. This game runs on a modified Reach engine... which means they didn't even have to make an engine. Just edit/modify/fix Bungie's engine...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
Look at all these games that didn't even make their own engine! Just modified an existing one! the nerve of these games!




tl;dr - Not making your own engine is actually pretty common practice.

  • 12.11.2012 10:25 AM PDT

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  • 12.11.2012 10:27 AM PDT

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They didn't made anything, they just have the idea and made other companies do what they needed to do.

That is why they don't know how to manage Halo 4 settings...That is why they keep on rotating playlists.


It's pathetic, because when Bungie created Halo CE, they made it themselves, they did not have any partnership with other company but MS.

  • 12.11.2012 10:32 AM PDT

Posted by: SafariTK
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Use a real world analogy- like a contractor building a house. 343 is the white man overseeing all the Mexican illegal immigrants doing the actual work.
I like this analogy. It was the same with Bungie in Halo Reach. Certain Affinity worked on the defiant map pack while Bungie oversaw it and collected the money.
Pretty sure it was 343 Industries overseeing the Defiant Map Pack at that point, not Bungie.

As for why the game took 5 years to make, keep in mind that they likely planned out the story arc for the next three games, brainstormed and prototyped a ton of mechanics, divided them up amongst the three games, etc.

After that was done, they could flesh out the first game.

  • 12.11.2012 10:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
Oh and something I forgot. This game runs on a modified Reach engine... which means they didn't even have to make an engine. Just edit/modify/fix Bungie's engine...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
Look at all these games that didn't even make their own engine! Just modified an existing one! the nerve of these games!




tl;dr - Not making your own engine is actually pretty common practice.
I know that. Also, imagine a Halo game using Unreal Engine 4. :D

Lol doesn't Halo use Havok actually?

Anyways, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to use someone's engine, hell it's smart and it lessens development cost, but you think because they just had to modify an engine, that'd shorten development time as well, yet it still took like 3-4 years.

  • 12.11.2012 10:33 AM PDT

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  • 12.11.2012 10:33 AM PDT
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Never mind.

[Edited on 12.11.2012 10:38 AM PST]

  • 12.11.2012 10:34 AM PDT