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Subject: Can reality be deduced down to certainty?

Basically, what I'm saying is that can we be certain the other people or things around you are actually there or that we are just brains simulating our own lives but that never actually happened?

Please elaborate your point!

  • 12.11.2012 8:17 PM PDT

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  • 12.11.2012 8:18 PM PDT

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  • 12.11.2012 8:18 PM PDT
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Nope. You can never know if this is real life or not.

  • 12.11.2012 8:18 PM PDT

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  • 12.11.2012 8:18 PM PDT

''Hell is other people.''

If I were to elaborate my answer, it would take up pages of this thread. Just take my word for it: We can be certain other people or things around us are actually here.

  • 12.11.2012 8:19 PM PDT

Gather around the campfire, once it goes out, it's out for good.

No, you cannot.
That's elementary.

The only thing we may be certain of is the fact there is a reality to be misinterpreted.

  • 12.11.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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I thought I was in the Matrix

Everyone does after watching that movie.

  • 12.11.2012 8:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: RedXRulez
We can be certain other people or things around us are actually here.

Elaborate.

  • 12.11.2012 8:20 PM PDT
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Cogito ergo sum. I think, therefor I am. That very fact that I can question my own existence proves I exist, for if I didn't exist, how could I question myself about it?
Outside of that, no, it's technically not possible to prove anything else exists except you. But it's one hell of an acceptable assumption when you're trying to avoid headaches.

  • 12.11.2012 8:20 PM PDT
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No, we can't be certain of anything globally. We lack the ability to test that...deeply, and have to mostly rely on our brains decoding sensory information. While we have a good idea whats going on at many scales, we don't know everything going on at any specific scale, much less all scales, all the time (which IMO is a necessity to describe all reality).

Beware, the above is a subjective supposition, with no actual scientific elements past axioms. Opinions abound.

  • 12.11.2012 8:21 PM PDT

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Nope. All of science is based on pre-concieved notions that might not actually be true, for example as I'm typing I see the color black, but in reality that might be the color blue I'm seeing. It also might not be a color at all, it could just be something that my brain made up.

So no, reality can not be deduced down to certainty. Even the "I think, therefore I am" is flawed do to the question, what is thought?

  • 12.11.2012 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sarg GoldIeaf
So no, reality can not be deduced down to certainty. Even the "I think, therefore I am" is flawed do to the question, what is thought?

The fact there is an illusion of thought means there is something there.

  • 12.11.2012 8:25 PM PDT

I would say that if some sort of stimuli would cause me to think then something must exist in some form or fashion, i.e. you say "elephants" and I think elephants. Elephants might not be there or even exist anymore due to extinction but at least their existence has root in my brain and the brain is where I crystallize my reality hence that in reality a lot of things exist in some form or fashion (forms or ideas). Also for the stimuli to work it must be from the outside as the external world not from the inside or my mind or else you go in a loop of what is real.

  • 12.11.2012 8:30 PM PDT