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Subject: Predators vs. Sangheili
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[Edited on 12.12.2012 1:52 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 1:51 PM PDT

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The Elite could have very well have been taking his time tracking the humans in FuD, possibly having not deemed them as any real threat, more like prey. It could then be presumed that the Elite was in no rush to kill them, hence the lengthy scene. That doesn't mean he knew their exact location, but he knew they were there.

  • 12.12.2012 2:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Garland
OK, so here's a vs. thread that's actually a close fight. We have two races of large, strong, bipedal aliens with a strong warrior culture and mandibles for mouths. Both have a fondness for active camouflage, plasma weaponry, and blades. Both are interstellar and regard humans as little more than pests to be hunted.

So which one would win in a 1 on 1 fight? Would the odds change if we're talking about fights on a larger scale?

Tie...I can't really choose.

  • 12.12.2012 2:31 PM PDT
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I'd say the Predator. They're much more suited to ambushes and one to one fights.

  • 12.12.2012 2:52 PM PDT

Predator, rather easily also. Between the superior invisibility tech, full body suits that absorb any energy projectiles, plasma projectors that can burn holes through the hull of a ship that can survive re-entry, and a lifting capacity exceeding 10 tons. There's really no fight.

  • 12.12.2012 3:10 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Predators have better equipment, and they don't die when they get punched twice.
They weren't punched by super soldiers though. Or by a being even stronger than that super soldier.

I think the Elite would win, but not without getting hurt.
Not on a large scale, I don't know what ships the predators have, but the elites do have plasma weaponry that melts thick titanium like hot butter.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 3:14 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 3:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Predators have better equipment, and they don't die when they get punched twice.
They weren't punched by super soldiers though. Or by a being even stronger than that super soldier.

I think the Elite would win, but not without getting hurt.


They have been clawed at and beaten around by Xenomorphs, which have strength that would put a Spartan to shame.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 3:15 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 3:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Onlinemph

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Predators have better equipment, and they don't die when they get punched twice.
They weren't punched by super soldiers though. Or by a being even stronger than that super soldier.

I think the Elite would win, but not without getting hurt.


They have been clawed at and beaten around by Xenomorphs, which have strength that would put a Spartan to shame.


They've also been killed by a New York cop in hand to hand combat. They are consistently defeated by humans whenever they fight them (making their lifting capacity no where close to ten tons, that's a load of BS). Elites, on the other hand, can wipe out entire squadrons without firing a shot. They're master swordsman, with technology and weapons for the most part exceeding a Predator's, are defended by energy shielding, have a motion sensor that would tell him where the Predator is at all times, and have the strength, agility, and speed of a Spartan.

I also don't see how a xeno is stronger than a Spartan. If they are, they still suffer from playing with their food by smacking them around before just killing them. Elites are too efficient for that.

Most of a Pred's weapons would be useless too. Really the only two weapons I could think of that would be dangerous would be a plasma caster--which the Elite can dodge if he sees the red beam--and those green trip mines from the recent game. If the Predaor attempts a trophy kill, or any melee for that matter (which they are strongly inclined too when only facing a single opponent), the Predator's screwed. The Elite would see him on his tracker and cut him in half with his sword. If the Predator dodges, he still has to contend with the shielding and the other plasma blades/weapons he has.

Really any of the Elite's weapons could kill him in one or two shots. Most Predators don't wear full-body armor, at least not the ones I've seen. Not Hunters, anyway.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 3:28 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 3:26 PM PDT

Yajta.

  • 12.12.2012 3:38 PM PDT
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F0ck the police

Predators are 20X as hard to kill as elites.

  • 12.12.2012 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Predators have better equipment, and they don't die when they get punched twice.


Correction, punched twice by someone who can flip over a tank by looking at it.


I'm fairly certain that a Predator is stronger than a human at peak level.
John isn't some "human",

Neither is Dutch Schaefer and predator threw him around like a rag doll.


They didn't have FREAKEN POWER ARMOR. A human without Mjolner could never beat a sanghelei in close quarters, unless the elite is retarded and lets them win.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 3:49 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 3:47 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Elites, on the other hand, can wipe out entire squadrons without firing a shot.

Nonsense. Show us some evidence that this happens most of the time. There wouldn't be any Human-Covenant ground battles if that were true, and the Elites certainly wouldn't admire Humanity for their "resistance". Before using the Cole Protocol scene, remember that Thel is an atypical Elite. One could quite as easily cherry pick Ripa 'Moramee to show how inept they are.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
They're master swordsman,

Not all of them. Not even most of them.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
and have the strength, agility, and speed of a Spartan.

That was shown false after Ghosts of Onyx when 14 year old S-IIIs were for the most part killing them with their own weapons. They sure aren't a match for Spartan IIs because their effectiveness on the field is nowhere near that of a Spartan's.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
they still suffer from playing with their food by smacking them around before just killing them. Elites are too efficient for that.

Efficiency and Elite should ever be put in the same sentence. The Elite's tendency to charge into a situation that they cannot handle has often gotten them killed and cost them the battle, or a vast amount of resources and manpower for what should have been an easy victory. You should know this. Their psychological predisposition towards extreme arrogance and overconfidence lost them their dominance.

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  • 12.12.2012 3:57 PM PDT



They've also been killed by a New York cop in hand to hand combat.

Yes, but that was a new-blood who had been shot to hell by a shotgun, and killed by a human using a predator weapon.

They are consistently defeated by humans whenever they fight them (making their lifting capacity no where close to ten tons, that's a load of BS).

Consistently? Really? No, what about all of those Rambos in the first movie? Only one made it out, and he was a plot-protected main hero. Also, how is ten tons BS? The Predators throw humans around like they are bag of potatoes.

Elites, on the other hand, can wipe out entire squadrons without firing a shot. They're master swordsman, with technology and weapons for the most part exceeding a Predator's, are defended by energy shielding, have a motion sensor that would tell him where the Predator is at all times, and have the strength, agility, and speed of a Spartan.

I thought Elites got beaten up by Elites all the time, regardless, a single shot from the plasma caster and the elite would be toast, the plasma caster completely destroyed a shuttle that carried about twenty people in it, this shuttle was also capable of re-entry. Also, the aforementioned 10 ton strength works for Predators. I am sure that Elites aren't that strong.


I also don't see how a xeno is stronger than a Spartan. If they are, they still suffer from playing with their food by smacking them around before just killing them. Elites are too efficient for that.

In one of the books it says that a warrior xenomorph has 20X the strength of a synthetic. Synthetics are 3x your average Olympic weight lifter. A Predator can throw Xenomorphs around quite easily also.

Most of a Pred's weapons would be useless too. Really the only two weapons I could think of that would be dangerous would be a plasma caster--which the Elite can dodge if he sees the red beam--and those green trip mines from the recent game. If the Predaor attempts a trophy kill, or any melee for that matter (which they are strongly inclined too when only facing a single opponent), the Predator's screwed. The Elite would see him on his tracker and cut him in half with his sword. If the Predator dodges, he still has to contend with the shielding and the other plasma blades/weapons he has.


Don't Spartans commonly run around the sensors of an Elite? Predators would do that with ease. As I said before, the plasma caster would blow the head off of an Elite from a mile away, and where is that Elites are bullet-timers? Also, the Predators have quite a few weapons that could cut an Elite in half also, from net guns to plasma coated blades and wrist blades that can cut right through Xenomorph Queens, there's no shortage of death in a Predator's arsenal.


Really any of the Elite's weapons could kill him in one or two shots. Most Predators don't wear full-body armor, at least not the ones I've seen. Not Hunters, anyway.


Yes, but in quite a few of the books, average hunters are wearing full body suits that absorb any energy weapons that hit them. Also, it's a good thing this isn't a war, or the Predator would be using his war suit, those have Macross Missile Spam going every where with dual plasma casters. Predators are srs biz.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 2:20 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 8:01 PM PDT

Somebody showed me the Scarab Gun in Halo 2 once.
I was like WHOA DUDE, WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAA
Then I sorta blanked out in a red haze and when I came to, everyone was dead.

First we should find out whether a Sangheili could kill Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Somebody make that a movie. Now.

  • 12.12.2012 8:06 PM PDT

Predators. They have dreads. Everythings better with dreads.

  • 12.12.2012 8:15 PM PDT

I'm going to guess the elite gets an energy sword, but is that it? Any ranged weaponry?

  • 12.12.2012 8:21 PM PDT

Really depends on the circumstances. Let's say we were to nail down some specifics... say a three Zealot squad (which is a completely canon operational unit) vs a three Predator hunting party (again, completely canon for Predators)... I think I may give it to the Predators.

Like, something like this doesn't speak well for the Elites. You're telling me the equivalent of a black ops unit gets the drop on the enemy and kills ZERO of them, ending with running in fear and bringing in extra units to cover their retreat? Yes, I realize that those Elites were going against augmented humans in power armor, but still, they had the drop of them and got nothing out of it.

On the other side of things, you have the Predators, which actually coordinate their attacks, and have enough sense to gather intel on their enemies and strike from cover. Really the biggest downfall of the Predators is that they could be goaded into one on one combat if they were separated from each other, but considering that an Elite couldn't kill an unarmed opponent while wielding a sword, I don't see how it could defeat a Predator with a spear, net, and/or wrist blade.

  • 12.12.2012 8:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Actually the sight thing makes me think that the Elites stand no chance at all. The Predators have a clear advantage.

There is nothing the Elite could do, save covering itself in mud, to hide from the Predator. The Predator, whoever, can remain stealthy from the Elite, as long as it stays dry.

So, the Elite would die pretty quickly.


The mud thing doesn't work irl (yes I know, lol) the mud just warms up to skin temperature...

  • 12.12.2012 9:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scottus4


Oh god Reach cutscenes... those were cringe worthy :/

Go by books and its a different fight.

  • 12.12.2012 9:03 PM PDT


Posted by: StarClanCats
First we should find out whether a Sangheili could kill Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Somebody make that a movie. Now.


Nope. Nobody kills the Governator.

  • 12.13.2012 2:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Onlinemph

Posted by: StarClanCats
First we should find out whether a Sangheili could kill Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Somebody make that a movie. Now.


Nope. Nobody kills the Governator.


Except for that one time he was crushed to death.

  • 12.13.2012 3:34 PM PDT
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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

Lemme put it like this: the yaut'ja hunt xenomorphs regularly and kick their asses. Sangheili would just be another kind of prey.

  • 12.13.2012 3:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Scottus4

Posted by: Onlinemph

Posted by: StarClanCats
First we should find out whether a Sangheili could kill Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Somebody make that a movie. Now.


Nope. Nobody kills the Governator.


Except for that one time he was crushed to death.


He lives on in our dreams.

Nothing can extinguish that.

  • 12.13.2012 6:30 PM PDT

This is now my main account. My former account was xKingGhidorahx. I've been on this site since 2009.

Posted by: Garland
But please, don't use the non-canon gameplay of the Halo games to say that Elites are weak.

  • 12.13.2012 6:40 PM PDT

Just an average blue armor elite? Predator

A Zealot or Spec Ops elite? Could go either way.

  • 12.13.2012 6:49 PM PDT

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