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  • 12.12.2012 4:10 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
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Brighten your day with science.

That's a bit harsh.

To elaborate, excessive drinking/smoking should be punishable by law. But I don't know if I'd send them to jail.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 4:18 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 4:11 PM PDT

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  • 12.12.2012 4:11 PM PDT

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I wouldn't count it as child abuse, but yes it should be illegal.

  • 12.12.2012 4:11 PM PDT


Posted by: ODSTworrior94
I wouldn't count it as child abuse, but yes it should be illegal.

  • 12.12.2012 4:11 PM PDT

Only if Abortion is outlawed.

  • 12.12.2012 4:15 PM PDT

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If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.

  • 12.12.2012 4:15 PM PDT

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IIRC, "Endangering a fetus" is already a criminal offense.

  • 12.12.2012 4:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.

I don't see how.

If they plan on having the kid, they are doing irreparable harm to the child.

  • 12.12.2012 4:18 PM PDT
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  • 12.12.2012 4:19 PM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.

that's just silly.
drinking one alcoholic beverage or smoking a single cigarette won't harm the child in the ways you describe.
if you can determine exactly how much drinking / taking drugs it takes to severely affect the child then fine make it illegal past that point, but until then i see no way of pushing this through without infringing the woman's rights.

  • 12.12.2012 4:20 PM PDT

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  • 12.12.2012 4:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.

I don't see how.

If they plan on having the kid, they are doing irreparable harm to the child.
Well, seeing as how one of the primary arguments for abortion is "it is my body, I can do what I want with it," making it illegal to not do drugs/drink while pregnant but allow for them to abort their child is completely hypocritical.

  • 12.12.2012 4:24 PM PDT

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It should be illegal to Smoke/Drink Alcohol when Pregnant.

It is the same as forcing a child to smoke or drink - Child Abuse/Gross Negligence.

  • 12.12.2012 4:26 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: SweetTRIX
If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.

I don't see how.

If they plan on having the kid, they are doing irreparable harm to the child.

Because the entire premise behind the legalization of abortion is that people are not killing children. If you are going to punish a pregnant mother for child abuse based on damage done to a fetus, you are questioning that earlier determination.

  • 12.12.2012 4:26 PM PDT
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If they can't handle the consequences of getting intimate with me and start hurting their kid who does deserve it, then by all means. However, its a very slippery slope.

  • 12.12.2012 4:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: CultMiester4000
if you can determine exactly how much drinking / taking drugs it takes to severely affect the child then fine make it illegal past that point, but until then i see no way of pushing this through without infringing the woman's rights.

It seems ludicrous to me that we need to intentionally destroy dozens if not hundreds of lives to find the line of exactly how much drug use will turn your baby into a retard.

And if we can't, then we have to let the people who are destroying the lives of the children they are carrying, continue to destroy them.

  • 12.12.2012 4:26 PM PDT

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Brilliant idea, because jail is even a remotely healthy environment for a pregnant woman.

  • 12.12.2012 4:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.


The difference is that an abortion stops the process before a child is formed, while intoxication would cause complications for a child after birth.

As for the law, it seems nice but there is no practical way to enforce it.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 4:30 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 4:27 PM PDT

No thought required, just spawn and GOOOOOOOOOOO

Not jail, no.

BUT!

Now that I actually think about it... They shouldn't be able to get away with that either.


A court-ordered parenting course, perhaps?

  • 12.12.2012 4:28 PM PDT

If they go to jail for child abuse when the child isn't born then why do they not go to jail for murdering their child when it isn't born?

  • 12.12.2012 4:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
Because the entire premise behind the legalization of abortion is that people are not killing children. If you are going to punish a pregnant mother for child abuse based on damage done to a fetus, you are questioning that earlier determination.

They are differences.

The biggest one being that in this case, the fetus does become a child.

  • 12.12.2012 4:29 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: SweetTRIX
If they did, than abortion would come back under scrutiny as that consideration would require a fetus to be considered a child.


The difference is that an abortion stops the process before a child is formed, while intoxication would cause complications for a child after birth.

Doesn't matter, either situation involves classification of a fetus and whether or not you ackowledge it is a "child".

  • 12.12.2012 4:30 PM PDT

The problem with this is the second you label that child abuse, you admit that an unborn baby is a child which would throw the whole abortion debate into full pants on head retard mode.

That being said if you're planning on not having an abortion yet actively decide to -blam!- with the fetus while it's in the womb, yeah that's messed up.

I think a better question is should idiots be able to procreate.

[Edited on 12.12.2012 4:32 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 4:31 PM PDT
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ONLY IF IT'S BEEN OVER 3MONTHS AND SHE PLANS TO KEEP IT.

  • 12.12.2012 4:31 PM PDT