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Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
but other problems would arise from that, like people stating that it's useless to go for other weapons
Maybe if every weapon was balanced pretty well with the other weapons, then there would be a unique use for every weapon, like in Halo 1.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
for example, tell me why you would go for a plasma rifle if you started with a br?? you NEVER would, because you wouldn't have an smg to dual weild with it....unless you spent even more time to find one, which isn't practical
I think that Plasma Rifles are good for taking out the Shields of enemies, so I could use a Plasma Rifle to weaken an opponent before finishing off that enemy with a headshot with a Battle Rifle.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
also, bad players would complain if they spawn to get headshotted over and over again from pretty far away
If players are bad, then they should practice some more to get better. They shouldn't expect to get good at the game very quickly. That's why large learning curves are good. Besides, if they have a good weapon, then at least they'd be able to defend themselves. They wouldn't be able to do much with something like an SMG.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
dude, if your team can "get control" of the BR's, the other team deserves to lose anyways, because of lack of teamwork on their part
They might not have been able to get Battle Rifles if they spawned far away from them. Also, players shouldn't have a huge disadvantage just because they made one or two mistakes.
Posted by: GeM3ye
Deathomen, AR type falls under the selection of SMG type.
I disagree. Although the Assault Rifle from Halo 1 was not as good as the Pistol in Halo 1, it was still quite balanced and it was a good weapon to fall back on.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
it is balanced that everyone starts with an smg on warlock and the BR's are distributed perfectly symmetrically on the map
Players could just make one or two mistakes to lose their Battle Rifles and they could have a permanent disadvantage.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
look, once the game commences, and people use their skills to get advantages, AKA better guns, the balance thing stops
If a player dies at one point in the game, then they wouldn't be able to do much with an SMG until they get another gun.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
it would be absoloutly no fun if you fought for a better gun, just to get raped by some guy that spawns near you
If you have a Battle Rifle, then you won't be at a heavy disadvantage to somebody next to you unless you made a major mistake. Even then, you would get a Battle Rifle back upon respawn.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
it's absoloutly your fault if you decide to go in there with only 2 guys
So I should be at a disadvantage because there aren't many players that can play with me? That just rewards players who are lucky enough to have lots of players on their Friends List at one point in time.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
PEOPLE spawning isn't the issue on this thread, it's the weapon
If you spawn at a bad spot with an SMG, then you'll be at an unfair disadvantage, but if you spawn at a bad spot with a Rifle, then you won't have such a disadvantage.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
look, if everyone spawns with a "good" weapon, only a few other weapons would even be considered to be picked up, like the dual weild weapons
Maybe if every weapon was balanced pretty well with the other weapons, then there would be a unique use for every weapon, like in Halo 1. Anyway, most of the weapons have a unique power that makes them worth picking up in some cases.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
people need to start with something relatively weak, near the bottom of the "chain" so they have better things to get, like a plasma rifle to dual-weild with for example
Players can still get an advantage by finding a new weapon, but the game won't be based around finding a new weapon. It should be based upon skill and balance, not how close to the good weapons you spawn.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
and i agree, people spawning in different places can un-balance the game, but that isn't what we're talking about
The Spawn Weapon determines how heavily Spawn Points affect the game, so it is a valid argument.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
anyways, bungie wants us to use all of the weapons in the game at some time or another. how many times would you go grab that plasma rifle or smg if you spawned with a BR on every game?
If all of the weapons were pretty balanced with each other like they were in Halo 1, then people probably would use every weapon, and people probably do use other weapons in several certain circumstances.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
also, warlock is probably the only, or close to only, weapon that total domination like that can occur on...sure, people on other maps can camp somewhere, but that leaves weapons lying around in other places
Since most strong weapons don't respawn until the person who previously had them drops them or runs out of ammunition for them in Halo 2, it's pretty easy to control many maps in Halo 2.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
the weapon depends on the map, man, so you can stop using your warlock example now, because there is a CLEAR problem with that map that almost everyone agrees on
It's still a problem in several maps because most strong weapons don't respawn until the person who previously had them drops them or runs out of ammunition for them in Halo 2.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
just because i dont agree with you doesn't mean you have to start some debate and be a whiner about it every time i contradict anything in your posts
Nobody's whining.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
beaver creek? either could work IMO
That's probably true since that's probably a close quarters map, but I'd still prefer a Battle Rifle start on that map to counter somebody with the Rocket Launcher and somebody with Overshield.
Posted by: Butler_Jeeves
BTW if you love BR's so much just play MLG gametypes and leave people to what they like to do
MLG gametypes are fine, but I think that Matchmaking is also fun because I like to play with people that I don't really know sometimes.