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Subject: Halo 4 population under 100k: The death of Halo?

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http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all

Well, I just want to go on a short rant. This game needs a TU. For one, killcams are wrong far too often to have any reason to keep them in game. Even worse, hit detection & lag is so bad you may get two hitmarkers and die to a sniper, only to see that in the killcam my shot didn't even go off. It's the kind of thing you expect in an Infinity Ward game, but not in Halo. According to speedtest.net I have 40 down and 30 up which is within average for middle class Americans so it's not my internet here. The game has more false hits/lag than Reach and even more than Halo 3 back in its prime (halo 3 has far more lag now due to low population and increased foreigners for all). I've had less issues with false hit detection in Black Ops 2 than Halo 4. That needs to be fixed.

I'm too tired to full on rant, but that's the major issue for me gameplay wise. Otherwise I love the gunplay and game physics. Some of the maps seem good and some seem bad, but I can't tell if it's only because of bad initial spawns and dynamic/ordinance spawning or if it actually a bad map in itself.

Other major halo 4 issues that need to be fixed*:
-The inability to search for a file with the tag system
-Spartan Ops is too repetitive, needs unique locations, and the missions seem to have little to no relation to the storyline cutscenes. Personally, I'd rather have ODST Firefight or REAL DLC Campaign than Spartan Ops in its current state
-Lack of customization options in Custom Games Settings
-The lack of precision when using LB/RB in Forge and barely increased budget, also lighting issues on 2 out of 3 of the forge environments
-Lack of a classic playlist/slayer pro is bad because of join in progress and dynamic spawning
-The terrible DLC achievements...seriously several of them are ridiculous and you almost have to boost them in a full party lobby in order to get them.

*from highest to lowest priority

[Edited on 12.12.2012 11:24 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 11:23 PM PDT
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Let the game fall and fail because then 343i will realise to stop copying cod and trying to gain cod fans(even though they haven't gained any). This would mean 343i would go back to classic halo!

  • 12.12.2012 11:24 PM PDT

OP what are you doing?

STAHP

  • 12.12.2012 11:24 PM PDT
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Being totally fair, it is the slump weeks after release and Christmas isn't here yet, not to mention finals.

If the population is just as bad in February after the "OMG NOO GAME SHINY" feeling has worn off of the Christmas newcomers, then we can put this as a potential candidate for blunder of the century.

  • 12.12.2012 11:25 PM PDT

OP is a troll.

  • 12.12.2012 11:26 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.

I honestly couldn't care less. This is the third thread in at least a week commenting on Halo's decline in population and its "death".

  • 12.12.2012 11:26 PM PDT

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

They obviously don't know the golden rule. EA/Dice broke this rule and now look at BF3, Bioware broke this rule and now look at Mass Effect 3(well what happened).

Now look at Activision, keeping the same formula as usual and raking in millions of millions of dollars every year from the Call of Duty franchise.

Look how Bungie went off from the beaten path on Reach, it came and went and now look at 343i doing the same thing, now Halo 4 is just crap, but still feels like Halo, and needs a TU to be playable.

  • 12.12.2012 11:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Altered Vista
The Death Of Halo
I've never heard that before.

  • 12.12.2012 11:30 PM PDT
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Other than the title, the game isn't Halo.

  • 12.12.2012 11:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: EChondo
If it's not broke, don't fix it.

They obviously don't know the golden rule. EA/Dice broke this rule and now look at BF3, Bioware broke this rule and now look at Mass Effect 3(well what happened).

Now look at Activision, keeping the same formula as usual and raking in millions of millions of dollars every year from the Call of Duty franchise.

Look how Bungie went off from the beaten path on Reach, it came and went and now look at 343i doing the same thing, now Halo 4 is just crap, but still feels like Halo, and needs a TU to be playable.

this ^^

  • 12.12.2012 11:33 PM PDT
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Got to like 13K when I was on it last Lmao h4. Reach still had 30K at the same time even 2yrs later

  • 12.12.2012 11:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Altered Vista
Well, I just want to go on a short rant.
Then you should have stopped right there.

  • 12.12.2012 11:34 PM PDT

The only day that's less than 100k is today. It's very early morning in the States; Halo 4 has yet to reach its peak hours.

  • 12.12.2012 11:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Slavic Ninjew
The only day that's less than 100k is today. It's very early morning in the States; Halo 4 has yet to reach its peak hours.


actually that was 12.12.12. it's 12.13 here

  • 12.12.2012 11:45 PM PDT

/s

Halo has already been dying since 2008/9.

  • 12.12.2012 11:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Redonkulous
Halo has already been dying since 2008/9.

Halo 3 bounced between #1 and #2 till Reach's release so that's very false.

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Posted by: DING DONG BANNU
Being totally fair, it is the slump weeks after release and Christmas isn't here yet, not to mention finals.

If the population is just as bad in February after the "OMG NOO GAME SHINY" feeling has worn off of the Christmas newcomers, then we can put this as a potential candidate for blunder of the century.

  • 12.12.2012 11:48 PM PDT

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No it is not the death of Halo. Halo is not the only game released during the holiday season. Games like Far Cry 3 and Call of Duty are very big titles that people buy.

  • 12.12.2012 11:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Altered Vista

Posted by: Slavic Ninjew
The only day that's less than 100k is today. It's very early morning in the States; Halo 4 has yet to reach its peak hours.


actually that was 12.12.12. it's 12.13 here

I know... 12/12 had over 100k, 12/13 is still counting.

EDIT: I misunderstood the OP. I thought you were pointing out that the peak population was under 100,000 for the entire day of 12/13.

Still, a population below 100k is to be expected at these hours. Although I agree with most of your points about the game, I think these numbers are natural and don't necessarily reflect the community's opinion of the game.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 12:27 AM PST]

  • 12.12.2012 11:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: EChondo
Look how Bungie went off from the beaten path on Reach, it came and went and now look at 343i doing the same thing, now Halo 4 is just crap, but still feels like Halo, and needs a TU to be playable.


If it's in bold, it's my only thoughts on this game right now.

  • 12.12.2012 11:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: jjj205
Let the game fall and fail

  • 12.13.2012 12:51 AM PDT

This world wants to drag you down... And the weight, that guilt they want to hang around your neck, you don’t have to carry it one more step. You think they won’t let you rest, but it’s not up to them. It never was.

The death of HaloPeople said so many times about Halo: Reach. First Black Ops would kill it, then Gears of War 3, then Battlefield 3, and then Modern Warfare 3. But it never died. I don't expect much different to happen with Halo 4.

  • 12.13.2012 1:07 AM PDT

I don't trust 343i with Title Updates. The Stock game is alright they just have to improve servers and add Grifball to matchmaking in my opinion.

That title update messed up Reach for me

  • 12.13.2012 1:08 AM PDT

Posted by: ToastyWaffles
The death of HaloPeople said so many times about Halo: Reach. First Black Ops would kill it, then Gears of War 3, then Battlefield 3, and then Modern Warfare 3. But it never died. I don't expect much different to happen with Halo 4.

I remember reading an article saying the first Killzone would be a Halo killer. After reading I was thinking, how can it be a Halo killer on two different consoles? No logic.

  • 12.13.2012 1:08 AM PDT