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Subject: WWII russia is bad and you should feel bad

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Based on averaging the % of population and those who were killed, Soviet Russia killed more Christians and Zedong killed more Chinese than Hitler killed Jews. I know most people are secular agnostics this generation, but don't distort history. They were all bad and I am offended. Also, all three had gas chambers ...in fact Germany had them in the first WW.

WWII russia was evil. Their people may have fought valiantly, but their government was evil. The german people (NOT INCLUDING THE INSIDE JOB CONTROLLING -blam!-S) also fought well and so did US. My grandfather fought in WWII against the Germans and Japan, but in the end evil was all around the world.

tl;dr The title explain it all.

  • 12.13.2012 1:19 AM PDT
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Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.

Other then that, you might want to adjust your statement. You don't want to distort history, yet you make biased claims about what is good and what is evil without looking into the historical context of the time.

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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

The people fought the wars but all the governments were evil.

  • 12.13.2012 1:37 AM PDT

No one cares.

  • 12.13.2012 1:46 AM PDT

Stalin killed more people than Hitler and had an equal amount of labour camps. Stalin killed more of his own people than Hitler. The only reason Hitler is more notorious than Stalin in this aspect is because his killing was more industrial and systematic.

Also: The regular German Army (Wehrmacht) was hardly an evil force. It was simply the national army comprised of regular soldiers doing what they were told to do. It was the SS that committed all the atrocities that taint the rest of the German armed forces.

  • 12.13.2012 1:47 AM PDT

Posted by: Sigma Seven
No one cares.
I care

  • 12.13.2012 1:54 AM PDT

Different Perspective


Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.


Where did OP suggest containing Russia militarily? He simply pointed out it was an evil government. Also, he posted facts about killings and from a neutral perspective they all look bad.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 1:59 AM PST]

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3rd edition. Now with more grunt.

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Everyone in war is bad.

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Posted by: Altered Vista

Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.


Where did OP suggest containing Russia militarily? He simply pointed out it was an evil government. Also, he posted facts about killings and from a neutral perspective they all look bad.


He referred to communist Sovjet Russia as an evil form of government. Containing Russia militarily and/or containing communism in general is reffered to Truman Doctrine.

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I'm Finnish and the Soviets attacked my country back then without any provocation. Should I feel bad too?

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  • 12.13.2012 2:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Altered Vista

Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.


Where did OP suggest containing Russia militarily? He simply pointed out it was an evil government. Also, he posted facts about killings and from a neutral perspective they all look bad.


He referred to communist Soviet Russia as an evil form of government. Containing Russia militarily and/or containing communism in general is referred to Truman Doctrine.

All he said was that he considered the WW2 Russian gov't to be evil, and to be frank I'm inclined to agree with him. Something is wrong when a gov't decides it's OK to mass murder its citizens.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 2:51 AM PST]

  • 12.13.2012 2:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Codename 207

Posted by: Koolen

Posted by: Altered Vista

Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.


Where did OP suggest containing Russia militarily? He simply pointed out it was an evil government. Also, he posted facts about killings and from a neutral perspective they all look bad.


He referred to communist Soviet Russia as an evil form of government. Containing Russia militarily and/or containing communism in general is referred to Truman Doctrine.

All he said was that he considered the WW2 Russian gov't to be evil, and to be frank I'm inclined to agree with him. Something is wrong when a gov't decides it's OK to mass murder its citizens.


^This.

  • 12.13.2012 2:54 AM PDT

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One final effort is all that remains
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Posted by: Altered Vista

Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.


Where did OP suggest containing Russia militarily? He simply pointed out it was an evil government. Also, he posted facts about killings and from a neutral perspective they all look bad.


He referred to communist Sovjet Russia as an evil form of government. Containing Russia militarily and/or containing communism in general is reffered to Truman Doctrine.
If we're going to get technical, McCarthyism refers to the ubsubstantiated accusations of members of one's society of being communist. It has no application within this topic.


I'm a history major with weighted focus on the soviet union and communism, so I'll be listening in to this topic.

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  • 12.13.2012 3:52 AM PDT

You can't possibly count how many people Imperial Japan was responsible for killing. They certainly take the cake for the most "evil" entity during the Second World War.

  • 12.13.2012 3:55 AM PDT

Death to rank junkies.

...You made this thread based off of a sh***y meme.

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If we're going to get technical, McCarthyism refers to the ubsubstantiated accusations of members of one's society of being communist. It has no application within this topic.


I'm a history major with weighted focus on the soviet union and communism, so I'll be listening in to this topic.


Wait, yes you're right my bad.

  • 12.13.2012 4:01 AM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

I'd also argue that Russia was more "evil" prior to WWII than during it, given Great Purges, gulags, and so on. Also, had Stalin not killed off a substantial amount of military and its generals (or hell, even decided to listen to the notifications he was receiving up till the day before that it was guaranteed Hitler was going to invade), less of his people would have died.


You could also make an argument that he was more "evil" after WWII, given that he imprisoned or killed off all guerilla fighters working against Hitler in Soviet's German-occupied zones.

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Every military leader makes mistakes while excersising their power. Is it up to us, with hindsight, to judge whether those mistakes were evil or good? Should we judge with current norms and values? Are we capable of judging throughout their contemporary context? Are we capable of critisizing the judgement of their contemporary peers, leaders and subjects about evil or good? And to what end?

  • 12.13.2012 4:18 AM PDT

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Did you know a standard tactic of Soviet fighter pilots was to ram the enemy?

And it worked.

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Infection in Halo 3 isn't zombie killing; it's ethnic cleansing. Have you ever noticed that these "zombies" are just black Spartans?

Not very often I get to file this one under "relevant."

  • 12.13.2012 4:26 AM PDT

Fhtagn


Posted by: Koolen
Lol you're having a severe case of McCarthyïsm.

Other then that, you might want to adjust your statement. You don't want to distort history, yet you make biased claims about what is good and what is evil without looking into the historical context of the time.


I don't think sending millions of people in goulags and starving the rest to death can be considered good

  • 12.13.2012 4:28 AM PDT