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Subject: Down But Not Out removed from Gears of War Judgment

I don't understand this. I really don't.

It is a huge staple of GoW. Freaking executions? Gone? This isn't a Gears game.

  • 12.13.2012 7:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: JMAN07
It's less of a team game now,

By how much is my next question.

Your hyperbole implies that since DBNO is being removed, Judgement isn't a team based game at all.

rifle spam will be worse than it ever was.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Gears orbiting around the Gnasher was a horrible gameplay experience.


Opinion. Reviving is what made Gears a team game, that and Execution gametype.

Also, team lancering + stopping power = nightmare. Teams that just lancer are no fun, it's boring. Although I hear that Judgment won't have stopping power, so it shouldn't be a big issue... than again, you'll just die in 2 seconds anyways, with or without stopping power.

  • 12.13.2012 7:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Slavic Ninjew
Did they explain why? I don't understand how they can take out such a fundamental game mechanic.


Supposedly to "speed" up the game.

I don't understand it, I really don't. If we want quick, one hit single kills I will go throw Black Ops in. Did they not learn anything from this whole Halo4 debacle?


Because Gears of War was developed and designed the month Halo 4 has been out.

  • 12.13.2012 7:55 PM PDT

END OF LINE

This simply isn't gears of war then.

  • 12.13.2012 8:22 PM PDT

I never really liked Gears' multiplayer.

It IS unique, but there are too many things I don't like about it. Character movement is slow and awkward, the game focuses too much on Shotguns, explosives are too damn powerful, and overall the whole concept of hugging walls was never my cup of tea.

The DBNO mechanic is just another excuse for giving players a crutch when they should have died.

  • 12.13.2012 8:28 PM PDT

Posted by: CharlesBrown33
The DBNO mechanic is just another excuse for giving players a crutch when they should have died.
False. You only used to be DBNO in certain situations. Say you got shot a lot in your legs. It makes more sense to be DBNO than to just flat-out die immediately. It was a sensible mechanic that worked flawlessly.

The fact that they removed this has destroyed any hope I had for buying this game. Honestly I hated it the moment they decided to make Baird the main character. I mean really? Who EVER liked Baird? Removing DBNO is just ridiculous. I'm not usually one to freak out over a change between titles, but THIS is just... unbelievable.

Bye GoW, you will be missed.

  • 12.13.2012 8:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: JMAN07
Reviving is what made Gears a team game,

Yeah, because reviving was the ONLY thing that made it a team game.

that and Execution gametype.
You mean Team Nobody Plays This?

Teams that just lancer are no fun, it's boring.
Agreed.

The full width of Gears' sandbox should be used.

  • 12.13.2012 8:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: OdorousLicense3
Who cares? It's just going to be the same, repetetive shotgun fest every match.

  • 12.13.2012 8:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Dragondude8o
Oh Look, another amazing franchise being codified...

  • 12.13.2012 8:58 PM PDT

I make a living of selling my body, and I don't mean sex.

I'm not getting Judgement. Was excited until I saw the changes they brought with it.

  • 12.13.2012 9:02 PM PDT


Posted by: el3phants
This simply isn't gears of war then.


Exactly. Supa fast deaths, THE GRENADE THROWING!!!!, no downs, fast pick up, increased moving speed.... INSTA SSSPAWN!!!!! LOADOUTS!?


AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!'!!!!!!!!!
TOO MUCH ALL AT ONCE.

RIP Halo and Gears.

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  • 12.13.2012 9:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Did the rifles get buffed or something? I don't even like Gears because it's too stupid to just implimented a crouch button and forces players to use its finicky cover system, but instant respawns and removing downing in Gears? What the hell?
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Posted by: CharlesBrown33
The DBNO mechanic is just another excuse for giving players a crutch when they should have died.
False. You only used to be DBNO in certain situations. Say you got shot a lot in your legs. It makes more sense to be DBNO than to just flat-out die immediately. It was a sensible mechanic that worked flawlessly.

The fact that they removed this has destroyed any hope I had for buying this game. Honestly I hated it the moment they decided to make Baird the main character. I mean really? Who EVER liked Baird? Removing DBNO is just ridiculous. I'm not usually one to freak out over a change between titles, but THIS is just... unbelievable.

Bye GoW, you will be missed.
If anything, they should have put in body damage and given the potential to lose limbs and still be alive and kicking. Have medics and health kits on the maps to reattatch limbs. -blam!- expand that mechanic.

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  • 12.13.2012 9:05 PM PDT

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  • 12.13.2012 9:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
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Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.

No one executes, quit complaining. I can confirm that most of my friends that have above 3.0 say that DBNO should be removed, it's stupid and you know it.

  • 12.13.2012 9:10 PM PDT
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This is retarded.

  • 12.13.2012 9:10 PM PDT

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This looks stupid as -blam!-. Why are they changing what made Gears, Gears? Why do developers think they have to make everything fast paced and change the formula that works?

  • 12.13.2012 9:10 PM PDT

Yes. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE FAST AND EVRYTHING MUST CHANGE.
Most developers are now sellouts.
Posted by: Dont pass gass
This looks stupid as -blam!-. Why are they changing what made Gears, Gears? Why do developers think they have to make everything fast paced and change the formula that works?

  • 12.13.2012 9:14 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: Garrux
Posted by: CharlesBrown33
The DBNO mechanic is just another excuse for giving players a crutch when they should have died.
False. You only used to be DBNO in certain situations. Say you got shot a lot in your legs. It makes more sense to be DBNO than to just flat-out die immediately. It was a sensible mechanic that worked flawlessly.

The fact that they removed this has destroyed any hope I had for buying this game. Honestly I hated it the moment they decided to make Baird the main character. I mean really? Who EVER liked Baird? Removing DBNO is just ridiculous. I'm not usually one to freak out over a change between titles, but THIS is just... unbelievable.

Bye GoW, you will be missed.
*silently raises hand* I liked Baird...

  • 12.13.2012 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: colbyrules8
No one executes, quit complaining. I can confirm that most of my friends that have above 3.0 say that DBNO should be removed, it's stupid and you know it.


Yeah, if you just wallbounce with the gnasher all day and are impatient. It is not stupid at all, it adds a whole element of teamwork to the game. Executions are also fun to do, especially on the final kill.

  • 12.13.2012 9:18 PM PDT
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I am so lost. This makes no sense at all.

  • 12.13.2012 9:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: Duardo
Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.

DBNO is just a crutch. As I said earlier, most hardcore (no, you're not hardcore for casually playing the game or getting back on it every once in a while) players just rage about the DBNO system. The only problem I can see from this would be getting killed from range a lot more and hindering shotgun battles because kids will just sit back and lancer. DBNO was stupid to begin with, you know for a fact that any good GoW player (going against each other) makes the system useless because most of the time it's just gibs or they get downed due to damage taken from the gnasher and then they get gibbed right after while raging helplessly on the ground. Most of the people complaining here probably don't even play ranked.

  • 12.13.2012 9:19 PM PDT

So people are complaining that Final Stand/Last stand is removed from shooter game?

  • 12.13.2012 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: colbyrules8
DBNO is just a crutch. As I said earlier, most hardcore (no, you're not hardcore for casually playing the game or getting back on it every once in a while) players just rage about the DBNO system. The only problem I can see from this would be getting killed from range a lot more and hindering shotgun battles because kids will just sit back and lancer. DBNO was stupid to begin with, you know for a fact that any good GoW player (going against each other) makes the system useless because most of the time it's just gibs or they get downed due to damage taken from the gnasher and then they get gibbed right after while raging helplessly on the ground. Most of the people complaining here probably don't even play ranked.


The only thing I hear people rage about is how they got their kill stolen (not a problem if you play with a team to win or just play Execution). Execution revolves around DBNO... it's the most popular competitive gametype for a reason, you can't just lancer across the map, you have to get in there and kill them as a team.

  • 12.13.2012 9:33 PM PDT


Posted by: IonicWaif5269
So people are complaining that Final Stand/Last stand is removed from shooter game?

This is kind of, you know, the only thing that Gears had going for it other than the cover system and is one of the game's core components. I'd say the backlash is rational.

  • 12.13.2012 9:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zanir
I always thought Gears of War sucked. Doesn't matter, wasn't gonna get Judgement anyway.

  • 12.13.2012 9:35 PM PDT