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Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.

I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.
Which book might that be?

  • 12.13.2012 9:47 PM PDT


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.

The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.
The fact you have to direct people to the books (or other parts of the Halo universe external to the game(s)) only serves to reinforce how badly told the story was.

  • 12.13.2012 9:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.

I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.
Which book might that be?
Every. Single. ONE.
LOL jk idk. Who reads?!

  • 12.13.2012 9:49 PM PDT

Ahh it's you. Been a while hasn't it? We WILL finish this.


Just you wait.


Posted by: Black Eagle X99

Posted by: antonio the bomb
That is what I was wondering. Why couldnt have 343 just let them drop in with drop pods. And have them wear mark 5 armor and the elites their original armor not storm armor.
If I would have said this the entire thread would turn into a -blam!- storm. I agree. Just wait antonio, now you've joined me in awakening the beast. Though it would have been Mark IV I believe if they really wanted to stay true to canon, not Mark V.


You have an obsession. Here Ill send you money through paypal or whatever so you can buy yourself a new game. A -blam!- storm wouldve started because youre obsessed. Im sorry but its true. Why cant you just stop?

OT: Yeah I think either that battle was spartan blue team on earth who had mark 6 armor or the artists were just lazy.

  • 12.13.2012 9:50 PM PDT

Ahh it's you. Been a while hasn't it? We WILL finish this.


Just you wait.


Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.

I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.
Which book might that be?
Every. Single. ONE.
LOL jk idk. Who reads?!


Smart, wise and educated people. You know the kind of people who bother to do something great with their lives and have contributed alot to mankind itself.

Men like, Leonardo da vinci, stephen hawkings, albert einstein, etc.

  • 12.13.2012 9:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And also, why do all the Spartans have armor Cortana custom made for Chief?

That Prologue was crap.


Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

OT: Spartan armor always had thrusters for EVA maneuvering in space.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 9:53 PM PST]

  • 12.13.2012 9:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: Gaara444
I doubt a Jet pack is going to be of much use when you're falling from orbit.
It worked for those Spartans in the prologue.
They jumped from pelicans like 50 feet overhead. Watch it again young mister.

  • 12.13.2012 9:54 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And also, why do all the Spartans have armor Cortana custom made for Chief?

That Prologue was crap.


Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

OT: Spartan armor always had thrusters for EVA maneuvering in space.
It wasn't space though, as quite clearly shown by Stabbed Civillian #49201.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 9:55 PM PST]

  • 12.13.2012 9:54 PM PDT

Major props to my hommie Sheeef. He made Recon possible for me. Long time recovering emails and passwords. And it was his. lol.

Posted by: antonio the bomb

Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.

I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.
Which book might that be?
Every. Single. ONE.
LOL jk idk. Who reads?!


Smart, wise and educated people. You know the kind of people who bother to do something great with their lives and have contributed alot to mankind itself.

Men like, Leonardo da vinci, Stephen hawking, Albert Einstein, etc.
Do you even read?
Wow way to take what I said to the extreme. Lol.
So because I don't read book like I used to anymore, that deems me lackluster? I don't and won't contribute? You keep thinking that because you know A WHOLE LOT about what I do.
<3

  • 12.13.2012 9:54 PM PDT

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Homework questions? Forget the Flood, join The Academy.
I've got a fan!


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And also, why do all the Spartans have armor Cortana custom made for Chief?

That Prologue was crap.


Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

OT: Spartan armor always had thrusters for EVA maneuvering in space.
It wasn't space though, as quite clearly by Stabbed Civillian #49201.


Okay. Thrusters are thrusters; they'll still work in-atmosphere, they'll just be less powerful, which is why they were just used to soften a short drop.

  • 12.13.2012 9:55 PM PDT

Ahh it's you. Been a while hasn't it? We WILL finish this.


Just you wait.


Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.[/quote]
I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.[/quote] Which book might that be?
Every. Single. ONE.
LOL jk idk. Who reads?!


Smart, wise and educated people. You know the kind of people who bother to do something great with their lives and have contributed alot to mankind itself.

Men like, Leonardo da vinci, Stephen hawking, Albert Einstein, etc.
Do you even read?
Wow way to take what I said to the extreme. Lol.
So because I don't read book like I used to anymore, that deems me lackluster? I don't and won't contribute? You keep thinking that because you know A WHOLE LOT about what I do.
<3


Are you 12 by any chance?

  • 12.13.2012 9:55 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Okay. Thrusters are thrusters; they'll still work in-atmosphere, they'll just be less powerful, which is why they were just used to soften a short drop.
Unless my understanding of physics is completely wrong, an EVA thruster that has enough force to slow down 2 tons of heavy duty armor into something that doesn't crater the floor would likely cause the Spartan to rocket into a celestial body if he so much tapped the thrust.

And that explanation STILL doesn't explain why we're only now seeing this.

  • 12.13.2012 9:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And also, why do all the Spartans have armor Cortana custom made for Chief?

That Prologue was crap.


Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

OT: Spartan armor always had thrusters for EVA maneuvering in space.


Yet it still doesn't make sense in terms of the canon. If that is indeed Mk.VI...then how do the other Spartans have it before Halo 4, Halo 3, Halo 2 or Halo:CE?

  • 12.13.2012 10:00 PM PDT

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I've got a fan!


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And also, why do all the Spartans have armor Cortana custom made for Chief?

That Prologue was crap.


Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

OT: Spartan armor always had thrusters for EVA maneuvering in space.


Yet it still doesn't make sense in terms of the canon. If that is indeed Mk.VI...then how do the other Spartans have it before Halo 4, Halo 3, Halo 2 or Halo:CE?
The simplest explanation is that it isn't the Mk VI in the cutscene.

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Okay. Thrusters are thrusters; they'll still work in-atmosphere, they'll just be less powerful, which is why they were just used to soften a short drop.
Unless my understanding of physics is completely wrong, an EVA thruster that has enough force to slow down 2 tons of heavy duty armor into something that doesn't crater the floor would likely cause the Spartan to rocket into a celestial body if he so much tapped the thrust.

And that explanation STILL doesn't explain why we're only now seeing this.

I have no doubt that the Spartan can control the degree of thrust that is provided, and I'm not sure what the problem is. This was in the books, and the cinematic was largely just to introduce people to Halo and look pretty.

[Edited on 12.13.2012 10:02 PM PST]

  • 12.13.2012 10:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Okay. Thrusters are thrusters; they'll still work in-atmosphere, they'll just be less powerful, which is why they were just used to soften a short drop.
Unless my understanding of physics is completely wrong, an EVA thruster that has enough force to slow down 2 tons of heavy duty armor into something that doesn't crater the floor would likely cause the Spartan to rocket into a celestial body if he so much tapped the thrust.

And that explanation STILL doesn't explain why we're only now seeing this.
And maybe the power output to the thrusters can be controlled like the shields? I mean, they only have miniature nuclear Fusion reactors on their backs powering the thing.

And the explanation as to why we are just now seeing it could be many things unrelated to the story. The answer doesn't have to be cannon as well. Budget restraints, time restraints, hardware restraints, storyline relevance, art direction, etc.

  • 12.13.2012 10:03 PM PDT

Posted by: IrIsHmAn04
no its legit, i used coordinates, set weapon timers the works.

Because it's only a video game. Something a lot of you cannot comprehend.

  • 12.13.2012 10:03 PM PDT


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  • 12.13.2012 10:04 PM PDT

Major props to my hommie Sheeef. He made Recon possible for me. Long time recovering emails and passwords. And it was his. lol.

Posted by: antonio the bomb

Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: SergeantFlood

Posted by: SergeantFlood
Are people really still raging over the whole magical jetpack thing? Jesus people.


The Spartan II's always had thrusters. Read the damn books you lazy bastard.[/quote]
I'm going to quote myself and slam my face into my desk as a result of my rage caused by the idiots in this thread.[/quote] Which book might that be?
Every. Single. ONE.
LOL jk idk. Who reads?!


Smart, wise and educated people. You know the kind of people who bother to do something great with their lives and have contributed alot to mankind itself.

Men like, Leonardo da vinci, Stephen hawking, Albert Einstein, etc.
Do you even read?
Wow way to take what I said to the extreme. Lol.
So because I don't read book like I used to anymore, that deems me lackluster? I don't and won't contribute? You keep thinking that because you know A WHOLE LOT about what I do.
<3


Are you 12 by any chance?
OMG HOW'D YOU KNOW BRO?
Really...? You think I'm 12...? Lol not in the slightest am I NEAR that age. That was 10 years ago though.

  • 12.13.2012 10:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: BanjoKazooie0
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  • 12.13.2012 10:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
Because it's only a video game. Something a lot of you cannot comprehend.
And some people actually dislike 343i taking a shat all over the canon.

Quit being a dick and actually contribute to thread's without insulting everyone for once.

  • 12.13.2012 10:06 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
Because it's only a video game. Something a lot of you cannot comprehend.
Maybe some people care a little more about games than you, which you seemingly can't comprehend.

  • 12.13.2012 10:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Okay. Thrusters are thrusters; they'll still work in-atmosphere, they'll just be less powerful, which is why they were just used to soften a short drop.
Unless my understanding of physics is completely wrong, an EVA thruster that has enough force to slow down 2 tons of heavy duty armor into something that doesn't crater the floor would likely cause the Spartan to rocket into a celestial body if he so much tapped the thrust.

And that explanation STILL doesn't explain why we're only now seeing this.
They're only a half ton in armor...so the thruster doesn't need to be as powerful. As for the rest of your post, I can't fix that because I'm failing H Physics.

  • 12.13.2012 10:07 PM PDT

I just assumed those were the same that Noble Six had when he fell from orbit off of Long Night of Solace, and then they use their thrusters whenever they get close to the surface.

And Cortana said she just upgraded his firmware, i,e the program data and persistent memory, nothing to do with the new suit, that was just the new art direction 343i took.

However, it seems all Spartans had Mark VI at one point in the cutscene which didn't make sense, as there was never a group of Spartan-IIs like that with it, especially early in the war, which is what I assume what that cutscene displayed.

  • 12.13.2012 10:10 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

That's still a lot of force to overcome. And we only now know about this in the games? This brings up even more questions. If Spartans have always had these thrusters, then why didn't the Chief use it before in the games?

  • 12.13.2012 10:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
Cortana didn't do anything. The armor was retconned.

Really? Wow, that's just plain dumb

  • 12.13.2012 10:12 PM PDT