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Subject: Halo 4: Why/how is the Didact so powerful?

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  • 12.14.2012 3:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Egerspurge
We can add this to the list of questions 343 felt no need whatsoever to answer.

  • 12.14.2012 3:36 AM PDT

Knowing this or not knowing this has absolutely no effect at all on the story. It's not part of the story. There's no need to know these things unless you're interested in them. They serve to further flesh out the universe, not the story.

You can't possibly expect them to explain every bit of technology and history shown in the games.


This. I oftentimes like when I get a bit of background on technologies, but part of what makes some of these alien technologies so alien is that we have no clue how they work, and we merely have to contend with their results.

Like, the Ethereal in XCOM - their anatomy is so incomprehensible that our scientists don't believe they could be alive, and yet their frail frame supports incredibly powerful strength and resilience. I don't even want them to try to explain since it would ruin the sense of alien-ness.

Same with the Reapers. Some of their weapon designs have been incorporated into Council ships, but we're not any closer to developing resistance to indoctrination for example.

  • 12.14.2012 3:49 AM PDT


Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
He had Forerunner Wi-fi to control his robo-army.
This made me laugh harder then it should have.

  • 12.14.2012 3:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Scottus4
Knowing this or not knowing this has absolutely no effect at all on the story. It's not part of the story. There's no need to know these things unless you're interested in them. They serve to further flesh out the universe, not the story.

You can't possibly expect them to explain every bit of technology and history shown in the games.


This. I oftentimes like when I get a bit of background on technologies, but part of what makes some of these alien technologies so alien is that we have no clue how they work, and we merely have to contend with their results.

Like, the Ethereal in XCOM - their anatomy is so incomprehensible that our scientists don't believe they could be alive, and yet their frail frame supports incredibly powerful strength and resilience. I don't even want them to try to explain since it would ruin the sense of alien-ness.

Same with the Reapers. Some of their weapon designs have been incorporated into Council ships, but we're not any closer to developing resistance to indoctrination for example.


But we are given no real clue as to how he has the power he has. He practicaly pulls stuff out of his ass because the player hardly knows about what he can do. The only real tip-off is in Halo CE when 343 Guilty Spark comments on Mater Chief's armor... Actualy, was that only in the books?

IMO: Science Fiction is when Fantasy is scientificaly explained and is moderately feasable.
Fantasy is either pure fantasy or when crazy Science Fiction stuff is given no explanation.

As for your examples: their anatomy is so incomprehensible that our scientists don't believe they could be alive, and yet their frail frame supports incredibly powerful strength and resilience. That is a decent explanaion right there. You state that
A) The scientists you have access have no clue how the alien invaders are even alive.
B) Their Exoskeleton is frail, but supports "incredibly powerful strength".

That allows for an element of mystery while still holding up the veil of science fiction!

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  • 12.14.2012 3:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Garshne
Forerunners could make constructs the size of a solar system.

They made stars.

Is this really such a big question??

  • 12.14.2012 3:56 AM PDT

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I like the part when the Didact was falling off the bridge and forgot how to use his space magic.

  • 12.14.2012 4:17 AM PDT

But we are given no real clue as to how he has the power he has. He practicaly pulls stuff out of his ass because the player hardly knows about what he can do.

I suppose thinking about in some more... yeah, I kind of do see the difference. Even though we don't know the mechanics of biotics or psionics, we know where those powers eminent from and their limitations. We don't know what makes the Ethereal work, but we do know their advantages stem from their alien biology.

With the Didact, we have no clue about anything. Is it psychic energy from his mind? If it is merely gravitational control mechanism in his wrist, what allows him to vaporize a wall by looking at it? I mean, "nanomachines" was a pretty BS cop-out to MGS abilities, but at least you could conceivably unite everything under it. It is hard to think of something that isn't space magic that unites his vast array of completely different abilities.

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  • 12.14.2012 4:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: omg a bannana
I like the part when the Didact was falling off the bridge and forgot how to use his space magic.
I like the part how we didn't find out what happened to him so we're left to speculate until halo 5.

  • 12.14.2012 4:19 AM PDT


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Posted by: omg a bannana
I like the part when the Didact was falling off the bridge and forgot how to use his space magic.
I like the part how we didn't find out what happened to him so we're left to speculate until halo 5.


Sir, finishing this fight.

Your argument about uncertainty is invalid. I'm actually very surprised there was any sense of resolution in the ending since they were going in with the idea of making a trilogy.

  • 12.14.2012 4:20 AM PDT

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Because he's a Forerunner, silly.

  • 12.14.2012 4:21 AM PDT

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Forerunners have a mind bogglingly magical level of technoligical understanding as shown by their structures but you have an issue when an actual forerunner weilds this power?

  • 12.14.2012 4:27 AM PDT
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I'm pretty sure that suit the Didact is in just gives him the power to bend gravity artificially.

  • 12.14.2012 4:29 AM PDT

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His armor. The armor he uses is extremely powerful. He is the supreme commander of the entire Forerunner military and leader of the Prometheans which happen to be extremely powerful. His armor is most likely a class 18 or above. Master Chief has class 2 armor. He is also a veteran of thousands of years of war. Those extra powers are used through his armor. Forerunners themselves can't delete matter or use telekinesis.

  • 12.14.2012 4:31 AM PDT

>343 is bad at explaining things!
How about you bother to go look up, or read canon books.

  • 12.14.2012 4:33 AM PDT

Combination of his suit (telekenesis is actually gravity manipulation) and the fact that his Cryptum can simply move.

Forerunner technology was extremely versatile, very adaptale.

Posted by: omg a bannana
I like the part when the Didact was falling off the bridge and forgot how to use his space magic.


Stunned by one of his own grenades.

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  • 12.14.2012 4:34 AM PDT

He was a Forerunner, they were extremely advanced and were able to further their own evolution and mutate their bodies and abilities, also the Didact was a Promethean Warrior-Servant The Prometheans were the highest and most respected group of Warrior-Servants in the Forerunner Ecumene and physically, Prometheans were the highest form a Warrior-Servant could mutate to.

  • 12.14.2012 4:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: snip3r dud33
>343 is bad at explaining things!
How about you bother to go look up, or read canon books.

Because having to refer to outside sources to understand the game is good storytelling.

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  • 12.14.2012 4:38 AM PDT

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They make entire ships out of light, I thought the Didact was rather underpowered.

  • 12.14.2012 4:40 AM PDT

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He is the Didact. What did you expect? Do you think he would just go out with a bang like that?

  • 12.14.2012 4:48 AM PDT

If they can make huge floating move able buildings that need no further input or outside touch to start moving then I'm pretty sure they mastered just about any force that exists in the universe.

Their technology is insane.

  • 12.14.2012 4:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Atomic Tea
Space Magic.
Dark Space Magic.

  • 12.14.2012 5:00 AM PDT

Is OP really this dense? I knew NOTHING of "didacts" or anything from the books prior to playing Halo 4 and I still understood how/why he was so powerful. Go watch the terminals.

  • 12.14.2012 5:10 AM PDT
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He's got a gravity generator in his armour that works much the same way as Tartarus's hammer did in Halo 2, even using the same effects.

Promethians were converted back to his side, likely because he sent a signal through their network.

His "vehicle" is a cryptum, sort of like their version of cryo, but I didn't know they could move around like that.

None of these are natural abilities, just the perks of being an advanced civilization.

  • 12.14.2012 5:11 AM PDT

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