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Subject: Halo 4: Why/how is the Didact so powerful?

Forerunners.

  • 12.14.2012 5:12 AM PDT

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How did the forerunners make a ringworld completely exposed to the vaccuum of space without it being sucked away?

How did they make a sun that though much smaller than a real one, was able to provide light + heat for the whole of the Ark?

How did humanity invent a device that allows them to travel through another dimension (slipspace)?

Answer: Space magic.
It's been in all the halo games so don't start -blam!-ing about it just because the game's new.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:18 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:16 AM PDT


Posted by: SubtleSpartan
How did the forerunners make a ringworld completely exposed to the vaccuum of space without it being sucked away?

How did they make a sun that though much smaller than a real one, was able to provide light + heat for the whole of the Ark?

How did humanity invent a device that allows them to travel through another dimension (slipspace)?

Answer: Space magic.
It's been in all the halo games so don't start -blam!-ing about it just ebcause the game's new.

  • 12.14.2012 5:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
How did the forerunners make a ringworld completely exposed to the vaccuum of space without it being sucked away?

How did they make a sun that though much smaller than a real one, was able to provide light + heat for the whole of the Ark?

How did humanity invent a device that allows them to travel through another dimension (slipspace)?

Answer: Space magic.
It's been in all the halo games so don't start -blam!-ing about it just ebcause the game's new.


Taken out of context somewhat. The stuff you mentioned above has somewhat of a basis in reality, but we only ever really got to space magic in Halo 4.

The past Halo's fit into the sci-fi niche rather nicely, but Halo 4 goes for science-fantasy.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:22 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
How did the forerunners make a ringworld completely exposed to the vaccuum of space without it being sucked away?

How did they make a sun that though much smaller than a real one, was able to provide light + heat for the whole of the Ark?

How did humanity invent a device that allows them to travel through another dimension (slipspace)?

Answer: Space magic.
It's been in all the halo games so don't start -blam!-ing about it just ebcause the game's new.


Taken out of context somewhat. The stuff you mentioned above has somewhat of a basis in reality, but we only ever really got to space magic in Halo 4.

Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.

There's only one incident of true "space magic in halo 4 and that's when chief detonates the nuke and survives. Everything else is just technology.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:23 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Qbix89
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Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

  • 12.14.2012 5:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
How did the forerunners make a ringworld completely exposed to the vaccuum of space without it being sucked away?

How did they make a sun that though much smaller than a real one, was able to provide light + heat for the whole of the Ark?

How did humanity invent a device that allows them to travel through another dimension (slipspace)?

There's only one incident of true "space magic in halo 4 and that's when chief detonates the nuke and survives. Everything else is just technology.
Answer: Space magic.
It's been in all the halo games so don't start -blam!-ing about it just ebcause the game's new.


Taken out of context somewhat. The stuff you mentioned above has somewhat of a basis in reality, but we only ever really got to space magic in Halo 4.

Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.


Really? There's lots of debate on this, and scientists like try and figure more out about this all the time. They figure we've got 11 or 12 other dimensions.

  • 12.14.2012 5:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:28 AM PST]

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Posted by: Darthbill99
It's all just technology. He was originally the master of the prometheans, maybe he had a program in his armor that brought them back under his control. The telekinesis is just some sort of gravity manipulator, even the covenant have tech like that, although less advanced (I.e. the fist of rukt). And I don't see how the cryptum being flyable is even a problem, it clearly doubles as a vehicle. Probably for prisoner transport.

  • 12.14.2012 5:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: SubtleSpartan
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
See, what 343 did is they went and broke the rules of the Halo Universe and made new ones.

  • 12.14.2012 5:30 AM PDT
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I've been playing Halo since 2002. My earliest memories include hiding at the shotgun window on Damnation and killing my dad with grenades while playing co-op on Pillar of Autumn.

>didact
>powerful

He was killed by a grenade.

  • 12.14.2012 5:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.


Of course you can. You've read the books, haven't you? In-game the player gets a load of questions.

"I thought the Covenant were friends."
"A lot can change in X years."
And then it's not brought up again.


Personally, I think the worst-case of Space Magic is when cortana shields John from a nuke using hardlight.

I will admit that the thing about Halo's atmosphere not being sucked into space is a good point, though I've never truly noticed it before.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:33 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
He had Forerunner Wi-fi to control his robo-army.


Best explanation to date.

  • 12.14.2012 5:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
See, what 343 did is they went and broke the rules of the Halo Universe and made new ones.

They never broke anything, they just added new rules. If bungie had said forerunners look like X and have abilities like Y and 343 did something completely different then thats breaking rules.

  • 12.14.2012 5:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
First, disprove it using only the game as a source. No outside sources, meaning no books, and no terminals since they have to be viewed on Waypoint. Also, nothing in the game that requires you to go out of your way to find it.

  • 12.14.2012 5:34 AM PDT
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I've been playing Halo since 2002. My earliest memories include hiding at the shotgun window on Damnation and killing my dad with grenades while playing co-op on Pillar of Autumn.


Posted by: SubtleSpartan
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
See, what 343 did is they went and broke the rules of the Halo Universe and made new ones.

They never broke anything, they just added new rules. If bungie had said forerunners look like X and have abilities like Y and 343 did something completely different then thats breaking rules.


By new abilities you mean "ur teh chozen one chef!!"

  • 12.14.2012 5:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
First, disprove it using only the game as a source. No outside sources, meaning no books, and no terminals since they have to be viewed on Waypoint. Also, nothing in the game that requires you to go out of your way to find it.

I'll use the games and any relevant modern day scientific data, since you guys are all about it being grounded in reality.

By new abilities you mean "ur teh chozen one chef!!"
Like luke was the only hope in star wars or Gordon freeman was the only hope in half-life. You're only complaining about it because it's cliche and yet other games with less hate have it overlooked.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:39 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
See, what 343 did is they went and broke the rules of the Halo Universe and made new ones.

They never broke anything, they just added new rules. If bungie had said forerunners look like X and have abilities like Y and 343 did something completely different then thats breaking rules.
New rules that got rid of much of the meta story that was around at the end of Halo 3.

Remember when everyone thought "what if we're the Forerunners?"

  • 12.14.2012 5:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: joedanny96
>didact
>powerful

He was killed by a grenade.


Yep.

Posted by: Arbiter 739

Posted by: SubtleSpartan
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Explain how it is more grounded in reality, I see no mention of accessing alternate dimensions in my science magazines.
While not applicable to IRL science, this is a fictional (fictional) universe, and therefore the rules are different.

According to the rules and science of the Halo Universe, slipspace is grounded in reality.

Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.


Of course you can. You've read the books, haven't you? In-game the player gets a load of questions.

"I thought the Covenant were friends."
"A lot can change in X years."
And then it's not brought up again.


Personally, I think the worst-case of Space Magic is when cortana shields John from a nuke using hardlight.

I will admit that the thing about Halo's atmosphere not being sucked into space is a good point, though I've never truly noticed it before.


Well, gravity would probably be holding the player to the Ring, seeing as how the larger the object the greater the gravitational force. Just a guess.

  • 12.14.2012 5:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Right so because it makes sense in the halo universe it makes sense for us. So that should mean this other "space magic" should make sense as well right?
:/

Tell you guys what, name every incident of space magic in halo 4 and I'll dissaprove it.
See, what 343 did is they went and broke the rules of the Halo Universe and made new ones.

They never broke anything, they just added new rules. If bungie had said forerunners look like X and have abilities like Y and 343 did something completely different then thats breaking rules.
New rules that got rid of much of the meta story that was around at the end of Halo 3.

Remember when everyone thought "what if we're the Forerunners?"

The halo 3 terminals proved we weren't the forerunners, they described us as a species the librarian had expressed a great interest in and wished to protect us.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:44 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Arbiter 739
I will admit that the thing about Halo's atmosphere not being sucked into space is a good point, though I've never truly noticed it before.


Well, gravity would probably be holding the player to the Ring, seeing as how the larger the object the greater the gravitational force. Just a guess.

The gravity of a ring doesn't work that way. The ring has no central point not to mention it's not large enough to generate the required amount of gravitational pull.

  • 12.14.2012 5:44 AM PDT
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I've been playing Halo since 2002. My earliest memories include hiding at the shotgun window on Damnation and killing my dad with grenades while playing co-op on Pillar of Autumn.


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Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Arbiter 739
I will admit that the thing about Halo's atmosphere not being sucked into space is a good point, though I've never truly noticed it before.


Well, gravity would probably be holding the player to the Ring, seeing as how the larger the object the greater the gravitational force. Just a guess.

The gravity of a ring doesn't work that way. The ring has no central point not to mention it's not large enough to generate the required amount of gravitational pull.


>what is centripetal force

  • 12.14.2012 7:04 AM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: SafariTK
Some high ranking Forerunners would get special augmentations/mutations that would enhance their abilities. The Didact's weird appearance and Telekinetic abilities being examples.

  • 12.14.2012 7:06 AM PDT

Different Perspective


Posted by: Atomic Tea
Magic.

  • 12.14.2012 7:07 AM PDT

Pro tip: It isn't him, it is his armor. Yes, even the telekinetic ability is his armor.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:08 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:07 AM PDT

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