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Oh Lord have mercy, security, security, we got a code BLACK. Code BLACK at the main gate.

Man, I hate all the people that whine and -blam!- about the halo 4 new trilogy saga. Shut. Up. Ya know, I played the game and it was fairly good. Im glad that 343 has continued the halo franchise. I'm looking foward to the next game they make. These people show promise. But of course they're the whiners and babes that say stuff like it sucks. Of course that is opinion. But these people, 343, will not want to hear these things. They will look toward the future, head held high and make more halo. Im not saying the game's perfect but it's satisfying. Main point im trying to make here: just shut up about halo 4. If ya don't like it, don't play it. And remember opinion isn't truth.

  • 12.14.2012 4:34 AM PDT

ur jus bad @ halo 4

  • 12.14.2012 4:35 AM PDT

I'm an Indonesian Halo (and other games) gamer!
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  • 12.14.2012 4:36 AM PDT

My Brahman is ready.

People are going to say what they want. In the end, it all boils down to preferences.

  • 12.14.2012 4:37 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

Forums are for opinions.

  • 12.14.2012 4:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: cameo_cream
343i is stupid.


Give me ten good reasons why


1. Created a blatantly obvious CoD clone.

2. Shunned more of their fan based causing more dramatic drops in population after release.

3. Dropping the skill gap even more in Halo games. Making the game 'kid' friendly in a sense.

4. Halo 4 doesn't resemble a Halo game. It should just be called A Game 4.

5. No weapons on map promote camping and there is no longer any incentive for moving around the map.

6. Terrible and stupid fanbase on their website aiding the efforts of creating terrible 'CoD' gameplay.

7. Failed to create a working file share.

8. Failed to create a working theater system.

9. Destroyed custom games. Removed loved gametypes and removed all the ability to be able to make anything but lolHalo 4 out of them.

10. Destroyed forge.

11. Multiplayer netcode is terrible. Lag, killcams etc

12. Solved the AA problem by adding in more and making them more OP. Once again creating Reach - I was more suited to the situation than you - encounters.

13. Gives players power weapons hand delivered to them. No need for map control anymore.

14. Campaign is once again full of plotholes.

15. Dev team is made of people who have had no experience whatsoever in making a Halo game before. Hence why the game doesn't resemble it.

16. Spartan Ops. Terrible story. And terrible excuse for a gamemode. (Doing the same objective over and over again on the same maps in not 'fun', 'new' and 're-playable' gameplay).

17. Weapon sandbox is servery broken.

18. Loadouts.

19. Being able to spawn with a shotgun as a secondary.

20. Ruined every single gametype in Halo.

21. Instant re-spawns.

22. Instant re-spawns in objective.

23. 'Perks'

24. Uninspired maps and general terrible map design.

25. No sense of level design to begin with.

26. Removal again of powerups on the map.

27. Halo Pokemon cards (You know those silly things you have to look at every Halo lobby).

28. Sound design is awful in places. The music cannot be heard throughout the campaign, and there is no option to turn it up.

29. Call of Duty unlock system - where you have to be a certain level to use a certain gun.

30. General terrible company built upon the foundation of one objective in mind - Milk the series like CoD does and make lots of money until the series is inevitability killed off.

I gave you thirty. And I'm outta this thread.

  • 12.14.2012 4:40 AM PDT

Call me Stu


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Forums are for opinions.

  • 12.14.2012 4:40 AM PDT

Halo 4 is a good game.

  • 12.14.2012 4:41 AM PDT

I have one question
>Spartan ops has a terrible story
I'm sorry but the story is no where near finished, how can you judge it yet

  • 12.14.2012 4:44 AM PDT

Unsuccessfully trying to bring science and reason to The Flood...

I would have preferred it if 343 had not continued the Halo franchise, but instead come up with their own original IP.

That way all the -blam!- they've tried to pull would have been acceptable in a new IP. But some of the stuff they've done to Halo is just mind numbingly stupid.

  • 12.14.2012 4:44 AM PDT
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F0ck the police

why u do dis

  • 12.14.2012 4:52 AM PDT
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  • 12.14.2012 4:52 AM PDT

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I would have preferred it if 343 had not continued the Halo franchise, but instead come up with their own original IP.

That way all the -blam!- they've tried to pull would have been acceptable in a new IP. But some of the stuff they've done to Halo is just mind numbingly stupid.

But then they'd have decreased profit margins. Really, developers care about profits. It's how they support themselves and their families. So, if you had the option to potentially double your sales by making a sequel to a successful franchise or starting a new IP, what would you do?

  • 12.14.2012 4:55 AM PDT

Call me Stu


Posted by: snip3r dud33
I have one question
>Spartan ops has a terrible story
I'm sorry but the story is no where near finished, how can you judge it yet


Judge the current ones and look for yourself. Why would you fully unload a Artifact onto the Flagship of the UNSC without any containment like putting a metal box around the container or such and there are just a lot more other stuff to pick up on that I don't even want to get started on.

  • 12.14.2012 4:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: snip3r dud33
I have one question
>Spartan ops has a terrible story
I'm sorry but the story is no where near finished, how can you judge it yet

You don't have to finish drinking spoiled milk to say it's gone bad.

  • 12.14.2012 4:58 AM PDT

Unsuccessfully trying to bring science and reason to The Flood...


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Posted by: xAT 117x
I would have preferred it if 343 had not continued the Halo franchise, but instead come up with their own original IP.

That way all the -blam!- they've tried to pull would have been acceptable in a new IP. But some of the stuff they've done to Halo is just mind numbingly stupid.

But then they'd have decreased profit margins. Really, developers care about profits. It's how they support themselves and their families. So, if you had the option to potentially double your sales by making a sequel to a successful franchise or starting a new IP, what would you do?


I completely understand the business side of it. I just wish they had realised that they were going to make a ton more money and actually put some effort into making it a Halo game.

All they did was make their own game, and apply a thin Halo skin onto it, it certainly doesn't feel like Halo MP to me!

Because of this I think they will actually lose sales in the future, as I for one will be very reluctant to buy another 343 game.

  • 12.14.2012 5:00 AM PDT
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You're even worse than the people whining about the game



Stop hating.

  • 12.14.2012 5:05 AM PDT
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This has been a trend for a while now, yet as of late it seems to have become more prevalent. I of course mean the attitude of "Well it's their product, they can do what they want, you get what you get". Why on Earth would anyone want to promote an ideal like that?

Yes, it is VERY prevalent in the video game industry lately. More corners cut, less product shipped, more unfinished products shipped. Why keep going like this? If you bought a TV and it shipped lets say without a few imputs working, less packing material was used, and the manual was basic with the complete one offered online, would you still buy this TV? What is the company promised to eventually fixed the issues at an unset date, because they were so proud of their TV that they just NEEDED to ship it out in this condition. Would you buy this TV?

It's okay, even though it's not finished the TV is still full price. I'm sure that's fine with you though, it's a new company and their first TV, even though it's entirely run by industry veterans. Oh and they offered a higher definition, but then almost at the last minute made every TV the same HD. Those who bought the HD model were not compensated however, but they got a nice box and a complete manual out of the deal!

One last thing, the TV randomly powers off your cable and internet. You can still watch DVDs and stuff, so I'm sure you don't mind.

Halo 4 is this TV. 343i is the TV manufacturer. Why are any of you defending levels of BS like this? If it were any other product the company would fail and be ostracized until they got it together again. Stop defending someone that shipped a half finished product and cut corners. They have no excuses and you shouldn't give them any. So why do you?

tldr; 343i shipped Halo 4 half finished. If someone shipped a half finished TV you wouldn't buy it. Why are you putting up with this?

List of overpowered weapons:
BR
AR
DMR
Carbine
Bolt Shot
Sniper Rifle
Storm Rifle
Rocket Launcher
Magnum
Plasma Pistol
Shotgun
Rail Gun
Spartan Laser
Sticky Detonator
Needler
Energy Sword
Beam Rifle
Concussion Rifle
Binary Rifle
Incineration Cannon
Light Rifle
Scattershot
Suppressor
Gravity Hammer
Plasma Grenade
Pulse Grenade
Frag Grenade

Tank
Wraith
Warthog
Guass Hog
Rocket Hog
Banshee
Mantis
ATV
Ghost

They have a game named Halo 4 with a very strong core and a very nice netcode.

Good Job!

But, there are blatantly idiotic things in this game that makes me wonder "Why did they do this?"

1. DMR - This 3x weapon zoom BREAKS literally every map. This weapon has "STANDOFF" written all over it. How can a utility weapon have such control of the map? Let's imagine a map such as Ragnarok..... I can cross map people from a safe location, and get POWER WEAPONS without even moving. Why would I even touch the BR if the weapon can not cross map? If you wanted the DMR to be a far ranged weapon, 343 should at least have the knowledge to lower the bullet magnetism

2. Random Ordnance Drops - Tell me, who the hell thought of making RODs. Their thinking of how this helps new players is extremely wrong. When a new player finds a weapon on the map, he expects it to be at the same spot the next time it spawns. Why the hell do weapon drops need to be random? What good does it do? What balance does it bring? The fact is, it brings negative value to the game

3. Maps - In Halo 4, there are literally 3 4v4 maps that work: Haven, Solace, and Abandon... 343 make a map pack saying they wanted to fill a big void in big maps? BIG MAPS? They shipped 6 huge maps, and only 4 4v4 maps. I understand they are coming out with a map pack with small maps, but it's too damn late now. At least add forge maps into 4v4 slayer playlists.

4. Playlist Management - How did 343 expect the several objective playlists to survive on its own? They already removed KoTH, and Oddball has less than 2K players.

5. Can not turn off Sprint/Instant Spawn - I am sure Bravo has forced 343 to work on this problem, but why was this not available off of launch? Instant Spawn does not "speed" up the game. It BREAKS the game? This is not CoD where people die in 1 second. This is Halo, where shields recharge slowly and encounters take 2-3 seconds.

6. Flinch - Why the hell can we not get unscoped when zoomed? Once again, this is not CoD where flinch works. This is HALO. HALO AND CoD ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES. Flinch is extremely random and breaks the skill that comes in winning a battle from far range down two shots.

7. File Share - Why isn't File Share working? Halo 3 had a working file share system at launch..........in 2007

Now I understand that I should post this in 343's forums, but I'm banned permanently.

Add more problems that need to be addressed while this game has some life in it.


Also, if you like fair, balanced settings, MLG will be coming out with a playlist soon which may include the 4sk BR.


I never really understood why 343i released the beta onto shelves to be purchsed at full price. Normally gaming companies give betas out for free and you purchase the full game after if you enjoyed it.

I guess we get the full game when it is finally released for free!

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You're even worse than the people whining about the game



Stop hating.

No u.
People whining abiut a game>>>>People whining about whiners

  • 12.14.2012 5:08 AM PDT


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Posted by: snip3r dud33
I have one question
>Spartan ops has a terrible story
I'm sorry but the story is no where near finished, how can you judge it yet

You don't have to finish drinking spoiled milk to say it's gone bad.

You don't know the whole book after reading the first chapter.

  • 12.14.2012 5:10 AM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.

despite the arguments about Halo 4 on this damn forum, 343i will not see these, so the people arguing aren't being productive in any way.

deal with the crappy Waypoint forums or stop arguing stupid things.

  • 12.14.2012 5:13 AM PDT