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Subject: Halo isn't in good hands with 343i
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Posted by: Altered Vista

Halo 3 fought and took the #1 spot back and forth against three different call of duty games. Halo 4 has yet to hit #1 and likely won't get there...more likely that when the next cod drops it falls to #3 or lower.


So? Is that to say every other game below COD is bad as well?

  • 12.14.2012 8:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan
Dude they are still creating playlists for us and mixing up the old with the new and sometimes combining them.

What they are doing is putting in gametypes, collect stats, pull the playlist, tweak what needs fixing and then putting it back.

Have you not noticed how SWAT has stayed since it was 1st put in? In podcasts they mention planning on trying to get race in as well.

Bungie spoiled its community and clearly thats come at the expense of the community getting entiteled.

"If bungie can do it why can't 343i?"

To add on, they plan to do many title updates with things the community wants implemented into the game including new gamemodes and campaign theater.
You mean stuff that was already in past games?

  • 12.14.2012 8:27 AM PDT

Fair play

Posted by: Nephilim713
How many threads are you going to make about halo 4 being in the wrong?


As many as it takes to get it fixed.

  • 12.14.2012 8:55 AM PDT


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Posted by: Kadoozy
Halo wasn't good in Bungie's hands either towards the end. Everything that brought about Halo 4 was Bungie's doing. We wouldn't have all of this stupid crap in the game if they wouldn't have released a -blam!- CoD/Halo hybrid that was Reach. Now we have full blown CoD in space and it sucks. Could actually be good if they TU'd it with more traditional gameplay features, but you can bet that won't happen.
AKA make it halo CE.

I would rather not buy the same crap over and over again with a new lick of paint thank you very much. Also I like how you complain about making Halo into CoD yet you just suggested to do what CoD does.


Repeating the same thing over and over isn't what makes CoD bad you retard, it's the simple and low skilled gameplay that is bad. I don't know why you fanboys can never get that through your heads and just spout, "herp da derp keeping da same is what CoD does! Y u complain noob??"

Making Halo more like CoD is what is making Halo bad. Halo's arena style of gameplay was infinitely better than what it has turned into and it shows with the massive drop in number of players from Halo 3 to Reach to Halo 4. Everyone would rather play a better class based shooter that actually does things right; which I don't even blame them for because Halo has gone to -blam!-.

  • 12.14.2012 9:01 AM PDT
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I love how you bring player numbers into this.

Each game since 3 except ODST and Wars have sold more than Halo 3 so clearly there are more players.

However nobody says all those players would have live, after all if Halo 3 never had 1 million people playing online in 1 day neither did reach or Halo 4.

The population is spread out over the course of the year, I remember watching a video about Black Ops on PC and only 20,000 players where on at peak times.

Thats 80,000 less than Reach at the moment, the larger community is on consoles so clearly the CoD games are not good enough for the PC crowd but are for the casual mainstream crowd.

Halo has always fit into the Hardcore gamer crowd and tried to expand the best it can without straying to far from its roots.

And I would argue it has done that successfully.

  • 12.14.2012 9:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xmark120
Posted by: Nephilim713
How many threads are you going to make about halo 4 being in the wrong?


As many as it takes to get it fixed.
Because 343i regularly monitors the Flood.

  • 12.14.2012 9:20 AM PDT

Fair play

I'm also active on their forums.

  • 12.14.2012 10:04 AM PDT
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I yawn in your general direction!

*leaves*

  • 12.14.2012 10:12 AM PDT


Posted by: Altered Vista

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This thread reminds me of all the hate Shishka got after H3's release due to his management of the playlists.


shishka works at 343i now...coincidence?
who knows. Hey guys ars only is the most competetive trust me.

  • 12.14.2012 10:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kadoozy
Halo wasn't good in Bungie's hands either towards the end. Everything that brought about Halo 4 was Bungie's doing. We wouldn't have all of this stupid crap in the game if they wouldn't have released a -blam!- CoD/Halo hybrid that was Reach. Now we have full blown CoD in space and it sucks. Could actually be good if they TU'd it with more traditional gameplay features, but you can bet that won't happen.

343i chose to expand on what was added to Reach. They could have easily scrapped what Bungie did, and taken Halo Back to its roots. The fact that they didn't means they were always planning a halfassed CoD clone.

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  • 12.14.2012 11:12 AM PDT

Oh my Gosh! 343i can't manage a Halo title to save their life!

Stop the freakin presses....

  • 12.14.2012 11:14 AM PDT

I am so -blam!- tired of seeing these threads on the flood, go back to 343i forums.

  • 12.14.2012 11:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: Xmark120
I'm also active on their forums.
Seriously, just give it up. It's one thing to make a complaint about the game. It's another thing to just endlessly ridicule the game ad nauseum. Let me make one thing clear to you: You will not get Halo 4 or the future of the franchise "fixed". If you think you can do a better job, go to school and get a degree that allows 343i to hire you so you can put your creative input into the game in an intelligent fashion.

There are millions of big picture guys like yourself that have no idea how to program a game on the scale of Halo but talk as if "fixing" the game is a no-brainer and that the employees were on massive amounts of drugs to "break" something that is otherwise so obvious to you.

Repeating the same crap over and over is lunacy. What you are doing is not constructive, and you're not going to change anyone's mind now that is on either side of the fence. The game was a measly $60. You'll never miss that money even 6 months from now. If you do, you shouldn't have spent the money in the first place when you didn't test the product first.

  • 12.14.2012 11:23 AM PDT

Wheres Meh Sniper?

Youtube page

Give them some time to tweak some stuff.

  • 12.14.2012 11:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dback139

Posted by: Xmark120
I'm also active on their forums.
Seriously, just give it up. It's one thing to make a complaint about the game. It's another thing to just endlessly ridicule the game ad nauseum. Let me make one thing clear to you: You will not get Halo 4 or the future of the franchise "fixed". If you think you can do a better job, go to school and get a degree that allows 343i to hire you so you can put your creative input into the game in an intelligent fashion.

There are millions of big picture guys like yourself that have no idea how to program a game on the scale of Halo but talk as if "fixing" the game is a no-brainer and that the employees were on massive amounts of drugs to "break" something that is otherwise so obvious to you.

Repeating the same crap over and over is lunacy. What you are doing is not constructive, and you're not going to change anyone's mind now that is on either side of the fence. The game was a measly $60. You'll never miss that money even 6 months from now. If you do, you shouldn't have spent the money in the first place when you didn't test the product first.

Are you my lord and savior?

  • 12.14.2012 11:25 AM PDT

He never said he could do a better job at making a video game than a group of trained individuals. The problem is that there are not only FIXABLE issues in the game that are not being addressed, but there are also issues that were key in people not liking Reach that were never addressed in Halo 4's development either.

Posted by: Dback139

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  • 12.14.2012 11:28 AM PDT

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  • 12.14.2012 11:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: cameo_cream
343i is a joke we know this.


lol

  • 12.14.2012 4:06 PM PDT

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  • 12.14.2012 4:07 PM PDT

Literally the exact same thread was posted earlier.

EDIT: Wait, this is that thread. WHY DID YOU BUMP IT GUY 2 POSTS ABOVE ME!

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  • 12.14.2012 4:08 PM PDT

Posted by: cameo_cream
343i is a joke we know this.

  • 12.14.2012 4:09 PM PDT

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  • 12.14.2012 4:10 PM PDT

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" -- Abraham Lincoln

You seriously have to be delusional to believe that they are ignoring the community. They have playlists in there for everyone. Granted, they are all rather frustrating because they need to be tweaked.

  • 12.14.2012 4:12 PM PDT

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I'm not happy about it, but I'm not one to complain about something that I can't change.

  • 12.14.2012 4:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan
Dude they are still creating playlists for us and mixing up the old with the new and sometimes combining them.

What they are doing is putting in gametypes, collect stats, pull the playlist, tweak what needs fixing and then putting it back.

Have you not noticed how SWAT has stayed since it was 1st put in? In podcasts they mention planning on trying to get race in as well.

Bungie spoiled its community and clearly thats come at the expense of the community getting entiteled.

"If bungie can do it why can't 343i?"
They promise those things but when it comes to campaign theater, they say maybe.

And it's obvious that they have a functioning Theater, given their recent screenshot of Chief in the bulletin. They should at least explain why they aren't handing it out yet. I wouldn't mind if it was incomplete since it's concerned with aesthetics not gameplay.

  • 12.14.2012 4:18 PM PDT

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